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Old January 26th 09, 01:30 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Hey Paine
Has your respondant not yet answered the SHQ 'Litmus
Test'? If not, he's _never_ gonna present any rational discourse on the
*cause* of gravity. However, in a moment of lucidity, he observed:

Between any two masses there is a point where their mutual

gravitational are nulled. This was predicted by
Newton.

...But then tripped off with this improvisation:

The implication of this attribute of the superfluid is that at

*any* point in the universe, there is a huge number of
flows intersecting in all directions at a huge range of speeds, yet
somehow they don't affect each other, and only some of them
push mass.

This is highly implausible.


Highly implausable indeed.

Yes it is, and that's not what's
happening. There is not a huge number
of flows. There is one flow. There are
what i call "buffering areas" between
EFF's that are transitional areas...


'Member the oft-cited "immersed spheres" analogy. That's where you have
two hollow spheres, each perforated wth many tiny holes, and each
connected by a flex hose to the inlet of a waterpump. The spheres are
immersed in a tank of water and the pump switched on. Each sphere
intakes in a 'reverse starburst' pattern, generating its own EFF or
"gravity field". A zone of lower pressure is created between the
spheres, causing them to be _pushed_ toward each other.
Now make the tank bigger, and use several spheres of
different sizes, each connected by its own flex hose to the pump (notice
there is stiil only one flow). All the spheres are again "attracted"
toward one another, but in reality are being _pushed_ by One Force.
Now, substitute a large mesh cage for the tank,
Immerse the whole shebang in a flowing river. Have the same several
spheres hooked to the same pump as before, but now immersed in the
larger flow of the river. Now eliminate the cage altogether and let the
spheres continue intaking as before, immersed in the flowing river.
And notice that the river itself is impelled
ultimately by the *same* One Force that drives the flow into each of the
hollow perforated spheres.

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Old January 26th 09, 03:36 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"oldcoot" wrote in message...
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Hey Paine
Has your respondant not yet answered the SHQ 'Litmus
Test'? If not, he's _never_ gonna present any rational discourse on the
*cause* of gravity.


I'd say we're still in a preliminary stage, oc. However, i
do remember Carson accepting that GR does not furnish
a cause of gravity. So to me, this is paramount to
realizing that there is nothing in physics that does so.
In this respect, Carson has thoroughly accepted that
there is nothing in mainstream astrophysics that can
pass the litmus test.

However, in a moment of lucidity, he observed:

Between any two masses there is a
point where their mutual gravitational
are nulled. This was predicted by Newton.


..But then tripped off with this improvisation:

The implication of this attribute of the
superfluid is that at *any* point in the
universe, there is a huge number of
flows intersecting in all directions at a
huge range of speeds, yet somehow
they don't affect each other, and only
some of them push mass.

This is highly implausible.


Highly implausable indeed.

Yes it is, and that's not what's
happening. There is not a huge number
of flows. There is one flow. There are
what i call "buffering areas" between
EFF's that are transitional areas...


'Member the oft-cited "immersed spheres" analogy. That's where you have
two hollow spheres, each perforated wth many tiny holes, and each
connected by a flex hose to the inlet of a waterpump. The spheres are
immersed in a tank of water and the pump switched on. Each sphere
intakes in a 'reverse starburst' pattern, generating its own EFF or
"gravity field". A zone of lower pressure is created between the
spheres, causing them to be _pushed_ toward each other.
Now make the tank bigger, and use several spheres of
different sizes, each connected by its own flex hose to the pump (notice
there is stiil only one flow). All the spheres are again "attracted"
toward one another, but in reality are being _pushed_ by One Force.
Now, substitute a large mesh cage for the tank,
Immerse the whole shebang in a flowing river. Have the same several
spheres hooked to the same pump as before, but now immersed in the
larger flow of the river. Now eliminate the cage altogether and let the
spheres continue intaking as before, immersed in the flowing river.
And notice that the river itself is impelled
ultimately by the *same* One Force that drives the flow into each of the
hollow perforated spheres.


Excellent analogy, oc, thank you for that!

You might want to check out the website below. I added
several "flowing space" links under the link to your site.
If you see that i've left out a good website, let me know.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: "Not only is the universe stranger than we
imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine."
Sir Arthur Eddington


P.P.S.: http://astronomy.painellsworth.net
http://yummycake.secretsgolden.com
http://garden-of-ebooks.blogspot.com


 




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