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This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology
and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. I have been looking at a nice, large map of Mars from an issue of National Geographic magazine I got about a year ago, showing latest detail from the Mars orbiters that have been mapping the surface. Any good map of Mars reveals a surface that can be classified into 3 general types: 1. Areas marked with hundreds of craters 2. Smooth areas with practically no craters, covered in dust. 3. Large canyons and valleys, usually near mountains. I'm no expert geologist, but after some thought, it appears to me that the forces that shaped Mars were primarily from a possible early period of active plate tectonics and continuing volcanism. Water had a very small part (5%?) in forming the surface of Mars. Early after Mars was formed, the planet probably resembled Earth very closely. So much so, that the appearance of canyons, cracks, and mountains in parts of the surface seem to indicate that Mars started down the road to having a system of active plate tectonics, just like Earth. This process, however, seems to have "exhausted out" at some point, and I think hyperactive volcanism released both energy and the innards of Mars at such a large rate that it shaped most of the features we see on the planet (think of Io on a much larger scale) and eventually killed off active geologic processes of the planet. Areas of the Martian surface are packed with craters like the moon. These areas of the surface were thus inactive for at least hundreds of millions of years. No active geologic processes, no volcanism. The vast smooth areas of the surface are around giant shield volcanoes. They have few craters, showing that these huge volcanoes were active either recently (millions of years ago), or active after intense planetary bombardment early in Mars' history. The ancient giant volcanoes, like Olympus Mons, the largest in the solar system, spewed magma for thousands of square miles, cutting features in the martian terrain that look like huge riverbeds. Huge amounts of magma settled into the low-lying areas of the Martian surface. The powdery soil of Mars that covers most of the planet is a result of the ash and other material spewed forth from inside the planet that covered most of the surface, depositing igneous rocks everywhere. The surface of Mars has extremely high iron content - iron spewed out from the core of the planet itself in periods of hyperactive volcanism. Mars had a thicker atmosphere and oxygen in its ancient past, but oxidizing actions with the massive amounts of iron spewed out in eruptions brought it out of the atmosphere and form much of the rust-colored appearance we see today. Perhaps the combination of this ash with the surface material formed the soil with the weird properties we see in the Spirit photos. One side effect of the periods of hyperactive volcanism is that these processes could well have melted ice and brought forth subsurface water which then flowed across parts of the planet. So much so that small bodies of water may have existed for thousands of years across various parts of the planet. Another possibility is that Mars had a thicker atmosphere and liquid water on the surface for millions of years but then a long extended period of active volcanism, perhaps triggered by a catacylsmic event, covered the surface in ash and magma, oxidation of iron with the atmosphere led to the slow but inevitable drop in atmospheric density and surface water slowly dissipated. The challenge will be where to find the places where this water was at, and it requires boring through the surface layer of dust and ash to see what lies beneath. I don't think Spirit will be able to find out much about what happened prior to the surface being covered in ash and dust. The rocks will turn out to be all igneous in nature and the rover won't be able to dig below the surface layer to find out what was there before the area was covered by volcanic action or asteriod/meteor impact. I'm starting to think that Gusev crater was once filled with magma, not water as some have theorized. |
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![]() "Kevin H" wrote in message om... This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. snippage .. Mars had a thicker atmosphere and oxygen in its ancient past, but oxidizing actions with the massive amounts of iron spewed out in eruptions brought it out of the atmosphere and form much of the rust-colored appearance we see today. Perhaps the combination of this ash with the surface material formed the soil with the weird properties we see in the Spirit photos. Where did this oxygen come from? Plants? rj |
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![]() "randyj" wrote in message ... "Kevin H" wrote in message om... This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. snippage . Mars had a thicker atmosphere and oxygen in its ancient past, but oxidizing actions with the massive amounts of iron spewed out in eruptions brought it out of the atmosphere and form much of the rust-colored appearance we see today. Perhaps the combination of this ash with the surface material formed the soil with the weird properties we see in the Spirit photos. Where did this oxygen come from? Plants? rj The volcanism, the water that was and is present on the planet, and the minerals present on the planet. Where do you think the oxygen came from that exists on the earth? Yes, the plants make it, but it still comes from somewhere. The oxygen they make has been here all along, in the soil, the water, and the rocks, and within the earth. |
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![]() Kevin H wrote: This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. Mars was formed full blown in the mind of Edgar Rice Burroughs, based on a story he once heard from Percival Lowell. Once the planet was formed, John Carter was enlisted to put it in the sky. -- Geo Communications Services -- www.geocommunications.net Jo Schaper's Missouri World -- http://www.missouriworld.net |
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Mars was formed like all planet of our system.
It simply emerged from Mother Star ( our Sun ) and this is the same process though which all planets are born ! Mars is the oldest sister of the Earth ! ncp "Georges" a écrit dans le message de ... snipped Georges ' rant |
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"randyj" wrote in message ...
"Kevin H" wrote in message om... This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. snippage . Mars had a thicker atmosphere and oxygen in its ancient past, but oxidizing actions with the massive amounts of iron spewed out in eruptions brought it out of the atmosphere and form much of the rust-colored appearance we see today. Perhaps the combination of this ash with the surface material formed the soil with the weird properties we see in the Spirit photos. Where did this oxygen come from? Plants? rj Whether oxygen came from photosynthesis or photolysis, the ultimate substrate was water. There is no free oxygen in space at temperatures below 3300 K, nor is there any free oxygen in the planetary interior as illustrated by deep sea volcanos: http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/chemi...ges/vents2.gif Worthy of note is the absence of CO2 in the plumes of deep sea volcanos, which lessens the likelyhood of photosynthesis. I find no compelling reason to suspect that Mars deviated from the composition of the solar nebula with a water to rock ratio of 2:1 http://www.genesismission.org/educat...lanetDiver.pdf page 13. John Curtis |
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![]() "John Curtis" wrote in message om... Whether oxygen came from photosynthesis or photolysis, the ultimate substrate was water. There is no free oxygen in space at temperatures below 3300 K, nor is there any free oxygen in the planetary interior as illustrated by deep sea volcanos: http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/chemi...ges/vents2.gif Worthy of note is the absence of CO2 in the plumes of deep sea volcanos, which lessens the likelyhood of photosynthesis. I find no compelling reason to suspect that Mars deviated from the composition of the solar nebula with a water to rock ratio of 2:1 http://www.genesismission.org/educat...lanetDiver.pdf page 13. John Curtis Thanks for that info. Is there a FAQ about atmospheric chemistry? I'm reading this in alt.sci.planetary. In photolysis, light breaks up water vapor into hydrogen and free oxygen, is that right? Does ultraviolet light do that or what? Does ozone prevent it from happening on earth? rj |
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Jo Schaper joschapernospam@socketdotnet wrote in message news:3FFE005B.7060302@socketdotnet...
Kevin H wrote: This is my theory on how Mars was formed... I'm not an expert in geology and this is all theory, but it seems to make good sense to me. I think this will be disappointing for people who believe in the "big oceans" theory. Mars was formed full blown in the mind of Edgar Rice Burroughs, based on a story he once heard from Percival Lowell. Once the planet was formed, John Carter was enlisted to put it in the sky. Kaor Jo, LOL. In an effort to reduce my library before a pending move last year I read through the John Carter series then tossed the books as I read. Don't shutter the books were falling apart as I read them. I still have my "Guide to Barsoom" though. Ahhh such wonderful fun. Thanks, Andy |
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Where did this oxygen come from? Plants?
Earth probably only had high oxygen in its second half of existance. There are early sedimentary minerals impossible at high oxygen. The first half was probably mostly CO2 atmosophere from primordial outgassing. Venus and Mars are currently mostly CO2. Oxygen was a poison to early earth life. The simplest life is anaerobic. Only later did life develop additional metabolic systems for excreting surplus oxygen, or burning it for energy. These are not perfect. Oxygen posioning is thought to contribute to diseases of aging and death in higher organisms. |
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"randyj" wrote in message ...
In photolysis, light breaks up water vapor into hydrogen and free oxygen, is that right? Does ultraviolet light do that or what? Does ozone prevent it from happening on earth? rj Basically correct. John Curtis |
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