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Old January 5th 09, 08:35 AM posted to alt.astronomy
socratus
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The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

#
"Dark energy, this mysterious stuff in the vacuum of space
which makes the universe want to accelerate, is the basis
for standard cosmology today because it explains much
of what we see,"
/ Research by Dr David Wiltshire, from
New Zealand's University of Canterbury /.
#
Tony Bermanseder PACIFICAP@.. . wrote:
‘ May the Dark Energy bathe you in its mysterious
light of darkness and illuminate your skeptical minds.
.. . . . . . .
4.
...the Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the spacetime structure.’
============= . .
My opinion.
‘...the Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the spacetime structure.’
‘the spacetime structure ‘ is Vacuum.
The Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a died space, but according to Quantum Theory
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Structure/ Space.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
simple to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
========== . .
#
If somebody belief in “ big bang” he must take in calculation
that T=2,7K expands and therefore T=2,7K is temporary
parameter and with time it will go to T=0K.
#
Dark energy may be vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-dem011607.php
#
Sakharov's induced gravity: a modern perspective
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0204062
Authors: Matt Visser (Washington University in Saint Louis)
(Submitted on 19 Apr 2002)
Abstract: Sakharov's 1967 notion of ``induced gravity'' is currently
enjoying a significant resurgence. The basic idea, originally
presented
in a very brief 3-page paper with a total of 4 formulas, is that
gravit
is not ``fundamental'' in the sense of particle physics. Instead it
was
argued that gravity (general relativity) emerges from quantum field
theory in roughly the same sense that hydrodynamics or continuum
elasticity theory emerges from molecular physics. In this article I
will
translate the key ideas into modern language, and explain the various
versions of Sakharov's idea currently on the market.
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless
infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/topics/space
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug...-of-everything
================ . .
Please, have patience and wait “when the next revolution rocks
physics.”
============== . .
#
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t
correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct
description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
==========..
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
http://www.socratus.com
http://www.wbabin.net
http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm
http://www.wbabin.net/physics/sadovnik.pdf

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Old January 5th 09, 09:58 AM posted to alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

On Jan 5, 12:35*am, socratus wrote:
The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

#
"Dark energy, this mysterious stuff in the vacuum of space
which makes the universe want to accelerate, is the basis
for standard cosmology today because it explains much
of what we see,"
/ Research by Dr David Wiltshire, from
New Zealand's University of Canterbury /.
#
Tony Bermanseder PACIFICAP@.. . wrote:
‘ May the Dark Energy bathe you in its mysterious
light of darkness and illuminate your skeptical minds.
. . . *. . . .
4.
..the Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the spacetime structure.’
============= . .
My opinion.
‘...the Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the spacetime structure.’
‘the spacetime structure ‘ is Vacuum.
The Dark Energy is INTRINSIC to the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a died space, but according to Quantum Theory
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Structure/ Space.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
simple to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
========== . .
#
If somebody belief in “ big bang” he must take in calculation
that T=2,7K expands and therefore T=2,7K is temporary
parameter and with time it will go to T=0K.
#
Dark energy may be vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php
#
Sakharov's induced gravity: a modern perspectivehttp://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0204062
*Authors: * Matt Visser (Washington University in Saint Louis)
(Submitted on 19 Apr 2002)
Abstract: Sakharov's 1967 notion of ``induced gravity'' is currently
*enjoying a significant resurgence. The basic idea, originally
presented
*in a very brief 3-page paper with a total of 4 formulas, is that
gravit
*is not ``fundamental'' in the sense of particle physics. Instead it
was
*argued that gravity (general relativity) emerges from quantum field
*theory in roughly the same sense that hydrodynamics or continuum
elasticity theory emerges from molecular physics. In this article I
will
translate the key ideas into modern language, and explain the various
versions of Sakharov's idea currently on the market.
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless
infinite void.http://discovermagazine.com/topics/s...space-theory-o...
================ . .
Please, have patience and wait “when the next revolution rocks
physics.”
============== . .
#
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
*is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t
correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct
description
of something more complex? "
* / Paul Dirac ./
==========..
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.http://www.socratus.comhttp://www.wb...s/sadovnik.pdf


What's the problem with electrons and positrons being "dark energy",
or even dark matter?

There are rogue electrons and positrons, are there not?

~ BG
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Old January 6th 09, 04:05 PM posted to alt.astronomy
socratus
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

My opinion.

The Dark Energy is the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a dead space.
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space as the
Quantum Theory says.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
#
Dark Energy may be Vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-dem011607.php
========== . .
Everything began from Infinite Energetic Vacuum: T=0K.
Somehow, the energy is extracted from the Vacuum
(the Energetic Dirac Soup) and turned into particles.
The Materialistic World gets its finite being
from an Infinite Energetic Being – Vacuum: T=0K.

To understand this ‘speculation’ we must know:
1. What is Vacuum: T=0K ?
2. Which virtual particles can exist in Vacuum?
3. How can virtual particles turn into real particles?
======== .
Until now the physicists ignore the Vacuum Energy T=0K
because it is the Zero Point Energy for our measuring devices.
Because the Absolute Zero Point Energy is border for our
measuring devices.
Can this fact be enough reason to stop our investigation?
==========..
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless
infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/topics/space
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug...-of-everything
================ . .
Please, have patience and wait “when the next revolution rocks
physics.”
==========..
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Old January 6th 09, 04:34 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

"Socratus" wrote,

When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about Nothing—the
"vacuum".


Heh.. the 'Pneuma' of our age. :-)

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Old January 6th 09, 06:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

On Jan 6, 8:05*am, socratus wrote:
My opinion.

The Dark Energy is the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a dead space.
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space as the
Quantum Theory says.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
#
Dark Energy may be Vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php


Again, what's the big insurmountable problem with good old electrons
and positrons being "dark energy", or even "dark matter"?

There are perhaps trillions upon trillions of rogue electrons or
positrons per km3, are there not?

How many electrons or positrons per m3 or per cm3 does it take in
order to qualify as dark energy or dark matter?

~ BG
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Old January 6th 09, 08:19 PM posted to alt.astronomy
Hagar[_1_]
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

Time to change your diapers, GuthBall, your brain is leaking once again.


"BradGuth" wrote in message
...
On Jan 6, 8:05 am, socratus wrote:
My opinion.

The Dark Energy is the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a dead space.
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space as the
Quantum Theory says.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
#
Dark Energy may be
Vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php


Again, what's the big insurmountable problem with good old electrons
and positrons being "dark energy", or even "dark matter"?

There are perhaps trillions upon trillions of rogue electrons or
positrons per km3, are there not?

How many electrons or positrons per m3 or per cm3 does it take in
order to qualify as dark energy or dark matter?

~ BG


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Old January 7th 09, 01:09 AM posted to alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

On Jan 6, 12:19*pm, "Hagar" wrote:
Time to change your diapers, GuthBall, your brain is leaking once again.

"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Jan 6, 8:05 am, socratus wrote:

My opinion.


The Dark Energy is the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a dead space.
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space as the
Quantum Theory says.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
#
Dark Energy may be
Vacuumhttp://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-01/uoc-dem011607.php


Again, what's the big insurmountable problem with good old electrons
and positrons being "dark energy", or even "dark matter"?

There are perhaps trillions upon trillions of rogue electrons or
positrons per km3, are there not?

How many electrons or positrons per m3 or per cm3 does it take in
order to qualify as dark energy or dark matter?

*~ BG


In other words, not only do you not care about this or any other
topic, but you actually do not know squat or care to learn. Sounds
pretty much like Hitler, GW Bush or Dick Cheney, doesn't it.

~ BG
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Old January 9th 09, 01:24 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default The Dark Energy and the Vacuum.

You're repeating yourself, Israel! lmfjao!

That's a BAD SIGN!

Saul Levy


On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:05:14 -0800 (PST), socratus
wrote:

My opinion.

The Dark Energy is the Vacuum.
Vacuum is not a dead space.
Vacuum is some kind of Energetic Space as the
Quantum Theory says.
The Energetic Vacuum itself is ‘ The Dark Energy ‘.
The physicists only invent new word ‘Dark Energy ‘ instead of
to say ‘ ENERGETIC VACUUM ’.
#
Dark Energy may be Vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...-dem011607.php
========== . .
Everything began from Infinite Energetic Vacuum: T=0K.
Somehow, the energy is extracted from the Vacuum
(the Energetic Dirac Soup) and turned into particles.
The Materialistic World gets its finite being
from an Infinite Energetic Being – Vacuum: T=0K.

To understand this ‘speculation’ we must know:
1. What is Vacuum: T=0K ?
2. Which virtual particles can exist in Vacuum?
3. How can virtual particles turn into real particles?
======== .
Until now the physicists ignore the Vacuum Energy T=0K
because it is the Zero Point Energy for our measuring devices.
Because the Absolute Zero Point Energy is border for our
measuring devices.
Can this fact be enough reason to stop our investigation?
==========..
Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum, that endless
infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/topics/space
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug...-of-everything
================ . .
Please, have patience and wait “when the next revolution rocks
physics.”
==========..

 




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