Collision energies and bombs

Collision energies and bombs:

Several eV - chemical bomb;
Several MeV - nuclear bomb;
Several TeV - hyper bomb. (Example: SN 1987A)

Chemical bomb - change in chemical structure of matter.
Nuclear bomb - change in nuclear structure of matter.
Hyper bomb - transformation of matter into field mc^2 --- LI^2.

Magnetic trap is 10^36 times stronger than black hole.

LHC propagandists must be arrested. Otherwise they will explode the
Earth.
Stop Tevatron and LHC.

On Jan 8, 4:32 pm, PD wrote:
On Jan 8, 6:32 am, Ivan Gorelik wrote:

Collision energies and bombs:

Several eV - chemical bomb;
Several MeV - nuclear bomb;
Several TeV - hyper bomb. (Example: SN 1987A)

The last is wrong. SN 1987A is no different than a nuclear bomb, where
several MeV are given off in any given interaction. There are just a
whole lot more individual reactions in a star…

SN 1987A looks as magnetic trap of Devil, as I can see it in my
theory.
Look the videos at this page:
http://www.aavso.org/vstar/vsots/0301.shtml

Magnetic collapse is much more rapid than the gravity collapse. At the
process of magnetic collapse the nucleon turns such, that its magnetic
dipole moment become parallel to magnetic dipole moment of a trap.
Gravity collapse needs displacing of a matter inside the Schwarzschild
radius. The time interval of neutrino registration at neutrino
observatories proved the magnetic collapse.

Magnetic collapse into magnetic trap of Devil releases much more
energy comparatively with the “nuclear collapse” of 2n*D into n*He4.
The first gives 500 MeV per nucleon the second gives only a dozen MeV
per nucleon.

Magnetic collapse can be switched at LHC.


Chemical bomb - change in chemical structure of matter.
Nuclear bomb - change in nuclear structure of matter.
Hyper bomb - transformation of matter into field mc^2 --- LI^2.

No, sorry, the last is just made-up fantasy on your part.

You will be able to feel the magnetic collapse soon after the LHC
start to collide particles with the energy more than 1TeV*2.

Magnetic trap is 10^36 times stronger than black hole.

LHC propagandists must be arrested. Otherwise they will explode the
Earth.
Stop Tevatron and LHC.

The Tevatron has been operating safely since 1983 -- that's 25 years,
during which time it has produced trillions of interactions. There
hasn't been a single explosion of the Earth during that period…

The minimal possible mass of a magnetic trap is 1055 masses of
neutron.
Tevatron can create slightly less than 1000 masses of neutron.
We are at the edge of precipice.
What if they would modernize the Tevatron?


video:
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=YZAQn-KxW_k
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=L9dhyqh_fEI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_...adron_Collider
http://forum.lhcdefense.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com/
http://www.stop-lhc.com/
http://www.lhcfacts.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcer...php?f=16&t=752
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/

Our futu SN 1987A. http://www.spacetelescope.org/news/html/heic0704.html

Aw, c'mon.
Ivan has made so many obvious physics blunders, they're entertaining.
In his own writings, he uses 40 year old out-dated data that's been proven
false and dismissed by every reasonable mind with anything more than a high
school interest.

CERN can't produce even an atomic-sized self-sustainig black hole, which
would need the mass of Mt Everest inside the machine. (that's really tough
to do)
CERNs goal is to get a few hundred atoms, (if lined up, they'd get to an
area a little over a millionth of a millimeter) and get maybe 20 or 30 to
collide at reletavistic speeds. The speed's the thing, to see the results
from the math theories. That's what all the impressive equipment is for.

- and good old Ivan says they'll create something 10^36 times stronger?

He gives them more credit than Capt. Kirk ever got.

He needs to find something in reality to worry about, like what his local
government is doing to help his people.
- or failing that, to do some composting.

Ralph wrote:
CERNs goal is to get a few hundred atoms, (if lined up, they'd get to an
area a little over a millionth of a millimeter) and get maybe 20 or 30
to collide at reletavistic speeds.

Not at all! The LHC collides protons with protons, which are not
"atoms". Your guess for collisions is outrageously wrong -- the
intersection regions will have non-trivial collisions at a rate of a few
MegaHertz and they intend to run for many years at such rates.

"Non-trivial" here means neglecting the infinite-range
EM interactions, which are not interesting. They do, however,
significantly affect the operation of the machine (look up
"beam-beam effects" or "beamstrahlung").

The LHC detectors have very complicated trigger systems to reduce the
rate of uninteresting events written to tape; they still have aggregate
data rates approaching gigabytes per second, which is a serious
challenge for the data handling and analysis systems.


The speed's the thing, to see the
results from the math theories. That's what all the impressive
equipment is for.

Yes. The LHC will be the world's highest-energy accelerator, a factor of
about 7 higher than the current record-holder, the Fermilab Tevatron, a
900 on 900 GeV proton-antiproton collider (they briefly ran at 1 TeV on
1 TeV, but the machine is much more reliable at 900 on 900).


Tom Roberts

Sorry- I over-simplified for general language.

I am quite aware of the difference between atoms and protons, (and the size
difference, and the 'particle zoo'... ) and the process of stepping up
energies to accomplish the research.
I'm a fan of reading about the breaking building technologies that are used
to test the math theories being researched.
Anyone who believes that over a dozen goverments, who co-operated in
building, and paying for these fantastic facilities, in their own vacinity.
overlooked their own safely, ...are just deluded, and haven't read, (or
can't) what was built, and when.

The fact that whole governments, who are incredibly self-interested,
actually co-operated, should say something.
They paid for it. Think on that one...
How much money could you get a government to spend on anything it might even
think would blow itself up?

They kept it in their own backyard, so to speak, not on an island in the
Atlantic (Bikini) or in the middle of a desert (Nevada).
There's farmland on the surface of that 27 KM ring. - cows and such. The
facility has been there 40 years, and only the recent major upgrade seems to
have made the fanaticist news. A list of safe accomplishments would likely
be appropriate here, but I leave that to anyone reasonable enough to
research it themselves.

...oh, and it wasn't a guess. If I can find the article I read again, I'll
be sure to post it, but at the moment, I've forgotten where it came from.

CERN can't operate at full energy for extended periods. There is not enough
hydro for it.
The facility is for much research, and not a one-shot wonder. I do look
forward to that shot, though, and wish I could be there to see it happen.
It would be apparently boring for anyone not interested in the physics being
tested.
If I lived anywhere in the vacinity, I'd have been there for the public tour
when it opened.
France and the other suppliers have negotiated hydro supplies to keep their
economies afloat and houses lit and still donate for the research.
I'm sure some equipment will be on frequently, but the high energy tests
must be infrequent, because of cost and resources.

I have been accused of over-simplifying, to get reasonable ideas across. I
don't apologize for that.
I do apologize for being inaccurate, which must happen in a short,
un-technical explanation.


Not at all! The LHC collides protons with protons, which are not "atoms".
Your guess for collisions is outrageously wrong -- the intersection
regions will have non-trivial collisions at a rate of a few MegaHertz and
they intend to run for many years at such rates.

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:16:18 -0600, Tom Roberts
wrote in :
Ralph wrote:
CERNs goal is to get a few hundred atoms, (if lined up, they'd get to an
area a little over a millionth of a millimeter) and get maybe 20 or 30
to collide at reletavistic speeds.

Not at all! The LHC collides protons with protons, which are not
"atoms". Your guess for collisions is outrageously wrong -- the
intersection regions will have non-trivial collisions at a rate of a few
MegaHertz and they intend to run for many years at such rates.

Bunch-crossings are at 40 MHz, and IIRC there will be ~20 p-p
interactions/bunch-crossing (depending on luminosity). There are gaps
in the bunches so there will not be a continuous 40 MHz stream of collisions;
I'm afraid I don't know offhand the beam structure or "average" collision
rate.

The LHC detectors have very complicated trigger systems to reduce the
rate of uninteresting events written to tape; they still have aggregate
data rates approaching gigabytes per second, which is a serious
challenge for the data handling and analysis systems.

For the CMS Silicon Strip tracker we have ~450 Front End drivers,
accepting interesting events[1] at 40 Ms/s (@12 bits/sample) in each of 96
optical analogue channels. I'm sure you can do the maths. :-) Using
various compression techniques (e.g. zero-suppression, only passing on
data which exceeds a per-strip threshold) the FEDs pass on around a
tenth of that data rate to the data-acqisition system. The FEDs are built
around FPGAs (field-programmable gate arrays).

[1] The detector data are held in a 96-deep analogue pipeline; when the
high-level trigger finds an interesting event it requests the detectors to
pass that specific bunch-crossing's data to the FEDs. Each FED channel
acquires the data from two "APV" detector chips which multiplex the data
from their 128 detector strips (per APV) onto the laser signal.

--
Ivan Reid, School of Engineering & Design, _____________ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. ] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

What would you do?

Situation 1.

Bandits attack you and your family. To prevent the killing of your
relatives, you can murder bandits.

Question: Will you kill the bandits, or will you silently endure the
massacre?

Situation 2.

You are 80% sure that the launch of the collider means the death of
humankind. Scientists and prosecutors do not believe you and your
arguments. You understand that the killing of two or three main
promoters of the experiment will attract the public attention to the
experiment, and it can be eventually banned.

Question: Will you kill a couple of scientists, or will quietly wait
for the universal death?

Videos:
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=BXzugu39pKM
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=YZAQn-KxW_k
http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=L9dhyqh_fEI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safety_...adron_Collider
http://forum.lhcdefense.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com/
http://www.stop-lhc.com/
http://www.lhcfacts.org/
http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcer...php?f=16&t=752
http://darkenergy.narod.ru/

Our futu SN 1987A. http://www.spacetelescope.org/news/html/heic0704.html
Look the videos at this page:
http://www.aavso.org/vstar/vsots/0301.shtml