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Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems
have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolfs jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Pentcho Valev |
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On Dec 12, 4:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolfs jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Pentcho Valev xxein: "Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments." That is frequency. The speed of light is not determined by the speed of the source. However, it is affected by a gravitation. Ask a BH. Otherwise a good post. |
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On Dec 12, 4:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. That is a reversion to Aristotelian authoritarianism. Aristotle's "science" was perfectly logical (given what was known at the time) and almost invariably wrong, but nobody questioned it because he was the "Great Aristotle." It also sounds vaguely like religion, philosophy, and folklore, and especially like "alternative medicine." "If if makes sense, it must be right." Logical consistency in a theory may be nice, and is often necessary, but it is never sufficient. For example, in the chemical physics of electrolyte solutions, the "ionic atmosphere" of P. DeBye is logically consistent, and certainly wrong, but it gives results that are consistent with observations. For this reason it is still used. Similarly, the model of aerodynamic lift based on the Bernoulli Principle is logically correct and absolutely wrong (none of the assumptions are applicable!), but it is still useful in designing airfoils. It is far more important for a scientific theory to be accurately descriptive (which makes it *useful*) than logically correct (which makes it *satisfying*). Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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Tom Davidson "tadchem" wrote:
Pentcho Valev wrote: Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Tom Davidson wrote: That is a reversion to Aristotelian authoritarianism. Aristotle's "science" was perfectly logical (given what was known at the time) and almost invariably wrong, but nobody questioned it because he was the "Great Aristotle." It also sounds vaguely like religion, philosophy, and folklore, and especially like "alternative medicine." "If if makes sense, it must be right." Logical consistency in a theory may be nice, and is often necessary, but it is never sufficient. For example, in the chemical physics of electrolyte solutions, the "ionic atmosphere" of P. DeBye is logically consistent, and certainly wrong, but it gives results that are consistent with observations. For this reason it is still used. Similarly, the model of aerodynamic lift based on the Bernoulli Principle is logically correct and absolutely wrong (none of the assumptions are applicable!), but it is still useful in designing airfoils. It is far more important for a scientific theory to be accurately descriptive (which makes it *useful*) than logically correct (which makes it *satisfying*). Tom Davidson, Richmond, VA hanson wrote: I hear you say, in short: "The story (theory) of/about an event or process has to be of practical use, rather then just 'making sense' "... If so, then this is borne out by example of the investigation after the 1, Feb. 2003 Columbia orbiter broke apart during reentry because of Wing damage sustained during launch by a chunk of fuel tank foam insulation. --- For months the probing physicists came up with "it couldn't be the cause, for logical reasons, "proving" their logic with all kinds of theories, computer simulations, spreadsheets and animations... and kept on arguing... and arguing.. and arguing...ahahaha... Finally, someone managed to arrange for an ***experiment*** to replicate the events with a chunk of gossamer foam being shot at the leading edge of the SV wing.... Sure enough, the impossible happened. Against all logic and prognostications of physics arguments, the feeble foam tore a 2x3 foot hole into the wing!!.... This fall there aired an impressive 2 hrs TV show about this investigation, detailing what I sketched above. BTW, what was stated above was advocated in ~1894 by Max Planck, Einstein's mentor, who said: =P= "Experiments are the only means of knowledge =P= at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Happy Festivities to you, Tom hanson http://tinyurl.com/586k35 |
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On Dec 14, 12:49*pm, "hanson" wrote:
Tom Davidson "tadchem" wrote: Pentcho Valev wrote: Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Tom Davidson wrote: That is a reversion to Aristotelian authoritarianism. *Aristotle's "science" was perfectly logical (given what was known at the time) and almost invariably wrong, but nobody questioned it because he was the "Great Aristotle." It also sounds vaguely like religion, philosophy, and folklore, and especially like "alternative medicine." "If if makes sense, it must be right." Logical consistency in a theory may be nice, and is often necessary, but it is never sufficient. For example, in the chemical physics of electrolyte solutions, the "ionic atmosphere" of P. DeBye is logically consistent, and certainly wrong, but it gives results that are consistent with observations. For this reason it is still used. *Similarly, the model of aerodynamic lift based on the Bernoulli Principle is logically correct and absolutely wrong (none of the assumptions are applicable!), but it is still useful in designing airfoils. It is far more important for a scientific theory to be accurately descriptive (which makes it *useful*) than logically correct (which makes it *satisfying*). Tom Davidson, Richmond, VA hanson wrote: I hear you say, in short: "The story (theory) of/about an event or process has to be of practical use, rather then just 'making sense' "... If so, then this is borne out by example of the investigation after the 1, Feb. 2003 Columbia orbiter broke apart during reentry because of *Wing damage sustained during launch by a chunk of fuel tank foam insulation. --- For months the probing physicists came up with "it couldn't be the cause, for logical reasons, "proving" their logic with all kinds of theories, computer simulations, spreadsheets and animations... and kept on arguing... and arguing.. and arguing...ahahaha... Finally, someone managed to arrange for an ***experiment*** to replicate the events with a chunk of gossamer foam being shot at the leading edge of the SV wing.... Sure enough, the impossible happened. Against all logic and prognostications of physics arguments, the feeble foam tore a 2x3 foot hole into the wing!!.... This fall there aired an impressive 2 hrs TV show about this investigation, detailing what I sketched above. BTW, what was stated above was advocated in ~1894 by Max Planck, Einstein's mentor, who said: =P= "Experiments are the only means of knowledge =P= *at our disposal. The rest is poetry, imagination." Happy Festivities to you, Tom hanson http://tinyurl.com/586k35 ....and to you, too, Sir. Thank you for all the laughs! Tom Davidson Richmond, VA |
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On Dec 12, 3:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolfs jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Several short comments -- -- Your last paragraph is windmill-tilting. Much as you'd like science to operate this way, it does not. -- Relativity is completely internally consistent. You have taken the statements of *special* relativity and *general* relativity to be absolute, without at all considering what constitutes the difference between "special" and "general" -- that is, the implicit constraints on the statements of the special theory that make that theory special and not general. -- Your comic-book-level understanding of relativity leads you conclude that it states both p and not-p. It most certainly does not. If it did, this theory would have been chucked on its ear in January 1906. The fact that it did not should give you pause as to whether your grip on the theory is as deep as it needs to be. -- There is no magician's hat here. In all the papers, the presumptions of the model were clearly laid out, and then the explicit steps to deduce the inevitable from those presumptions were laid out one by one. There is no curtain behind which things are hidden. The assembly of the theory is completely out in the open. The fact that you find it incomprehensible even while the assembly is done in front of your eyes reflects on something, but it ain't the theory. |
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On Dec 12, 11:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolves jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Contrary to what Popper and Einstein taught, in natural sciences, the introduction of an axiom only apparently marks the beginning of a theory building. Essentially, the introduction of an axiom marks the beginning of the process of fitting the axiom into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature. For that reason the introduction of a false axiom automatically converts the respective theory into an inconsistency, insofar as the true alternative of the false axiom is already present, implicitly, in "the preexisting system of knowledge". Consider a mathematical system (analogous to but much simpler than the "system of knowledge about Nature") where all statements are unambiguous and true, except for the result of the operation 2+2. There are two hypotheses: 2+2=4 and 2+2=5. One somehow chooses the false hypothesis 2+2=5 (it is now an axiom) and obtains: (A) 3(2+2) = 3*5 = 15 (B) 3(2+2) = 6 + 6 = 12 Note that the true conclusion 3(2+2)=12 belongs to the theory initiated by the false axiom 2+2=5, so if an experiment somehow tests this particular conclusion, the theory (rather, the inconsistency) would prove deceptively correct. Since the experimental verification is unreliable in the case of inconsistency, REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM (forgotten in the era of Postscientism) remains the only reasonable procedure leading to falsification. If it were used, the following case of trapping a long pole inside a short barn would have led to an immediate refutation of Einstein's theory: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." If Einsteinians fail to reopen the doors "pretty quickly", the length L of the pole trapped inside the barn would be: (A) L = 40 because the trapped pole cannot be longer than the barn. (B) L = 80 because that is the proper length and the pole is no longer in motion. Both conclusions, L=40 and L=80, belong to Einstein's theory (rather, Einstein's inconsistency). Pentcho Valev |
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On Dec 16, 6:24*am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Dec 12, 11:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote: Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolves jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Contrary to what Popper and Einstein taught, in natural sciences, the introduction of an axiom only apparently marks the beginning of a theory building. Essentially, the introduction of an axiom marks the beginning of the process of fitting the axiom into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature. For that reason the introduction of a false axiom automatically converts the respective theory into an inconsistency, insofar as the true alternative of the false axiom is already present, implicitly, in "the preexisting system of knowledge". This is *FLAT* wrong. The history of science puts the lie to this statement. There is NO requirement that an axiom needs to "fit into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature". The entire history of science is *littered* with fundamental shifts that marked the occasion of the introduction of axioms that were completely inconsistent with the preexisting system of knowledge: - Galileo: No force is required to compel a body in motion to remain in motion. - Copernicus: The heavens are not geocentric. - Columbus: There is no edge to the world. - Carnot: Perfect engine efficiency is not possible, even in principle. - Darwin: Species are created by natural diversification and natural selection. - Maxwell: Electricity and magnetism are the same phenomenon, and light is electromagnetism. - Planck: Energy is not continuous. - Bohr: Angular momentum is not continuous. - Heisenberg: Infinitely precise specification of a state's conjugate variables is not possible, even in principle. - Feynman: Particles do not follow definite trajectories through space. Consider a mathematical system (analogous to but much simpler than the "system of knowledge about Nature") where all statements are unambiguous and true, except for the result of the operation 2+2. There are two hypotheses: 2+2=4 and 2+2=5. One somehow chooses the false hypothesis 2+2=5 (it is now an axiom) and obtains: (A) 3(2+2) = 3*5 = 15 (B) 3(2+2) = 6 + 6 = 12 Note that the true conclusion 3(2+2)=12 belongs to the theory initiated by the false axiom 2+2=5, so if an experiment somehow tests this particular conclusion, the theory (rather, the inconsistency) would prove deceptively correct. Since the experimental verification is unreliable in the case of inconsistency, REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM (forgotten in the era of Postscientism) remains the only reasonable procedure leading to falsification. If it were used, the following case of trapping a long pole inside a short barn would have led to an immediate refutation of Einstein's theory: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." If Einsteinians fail to reopen the doors "pretty quickly", the length L of the pole trapped inside the barn would be: (A) L = 40 because the trapped pole cannot be longer than the barn. (B) L = 80 because that is the proper length and the pole is no longer in motion. Both conclusions, L=40 and L=80, belong to Einstein's theory (rather, Einstein's inconsistency). Pentcho Valev |
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On Dec 16, 2:24*pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
On Dec 12, 11:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote: Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolves jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Contrary to what Popper and Einstein taught, in natural sciences, the introduction of an axiom only apparently marks the beginning of a theory building. Essentially, the introduction of an axiom marks the beginning of the process of fitting the axiom into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature. For that reason the introduction of a false axiom automatically converts the respective theory into an inconsistency, insofar as the true alternative of the false axiom is already present, implicitly, in "the preexisting system of knowledge". Consider a mathematical system (analogous to but much simpler than the "system of knowledge about Nature") where all statements are unambiguous and true, except for the result of the operation 2+2. There are two hypotheses: 2+2=4 and 2+2=5. One somehow chooses the false hypothesis 2+2=5 (it is now an axiom) and obtains: (A) 3(2+2) = 3*5 = 15 (B) 3(2+2) = 6 + 6 = 12 Note that the true conclusion 3(2+2)=12 belongs to the theory initiated by the false axiom 2+2=5, so if an experiment somehow tests this particular conclusion, the theory (rather, the inconsistency) would prove deceptively correct. Since the experimental verification is unreliable in the case of inconsistency, REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM (forgotten in the era of Postscientism) remains the only reasonable procedure leading to falsification. If it were used, the following case of trapping a long pole inside a short barn would have led to an immediate refutation of Einstein's theory: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." If Einsteinians fail to reopen the doors "pretty quickly", the length L of the pole trapped inside the barn would be: (A) L = 40 because the trapped pole cannot be longer than the barn. (B) L = 80 because that is the proper length and the pole is no longer in motion. Both conclusions, L=40 and L=80, belong to Einstein's theory (rather, Einstein's inconsistency). http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ George Orwell "1984": "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" This is only a partial development in Big Brother's world that can be summarized as: Two and two make five; two and two do not make four Next development (not described by Orwell): Two and two make five; two and two make four Two developments in Einstein's world: 1) The bug is dead; the bug is alive: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu.../bugrivet.html 2) The speed of light is constant; the speed of light is variable: http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm "Prediction: light escaping from a large mass should lose energy---the wavelength must increase since the speed of light is constant. Stronger surface gravity produces a greater increase in the wavelength. This is a consequence of time dilation. Suppose person A on the massive object decides to send light of a specific frequency f to person B all of the time. So every second, f wave crests leave person A. The same wave crests are received by person B in an interval of time interval of (1+z) seconds. He receives the waves at a frequency of f/(1+z). Remember that the speed of light c = (the frequency f) (the wavelength L). If the frequency is reduced by (1+z) times, the wavelength must INcrease by (1+z) times: L_atB = (1+z) L_atA. In the doppler effect, this lengthening of the wavelength is called a redshift. For gravity, the effect is called a gravitational redshift." http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_gr.html "Is light affected by gravity? If so, how can the speed of light be constant? Wouldn't the light coming off of the Sun be slower than the light we make here? If not, why doesn't light escape a black hole? Yes, light is affected by gravity, but not in its speed. General Relativity (our best guess as to how the Universe works) gives two effects of gravity on light. It can bend light (which includes effects such as gravitational lensing), and it can change the energy of light. But it changes the energy by shifting the frequency of the light (gravitational redshift) not by changing light speed. Gravity bends light by warping space so that what the light beam sees as "straight" is not straight to an outside observer. The speed of light is still constant." Dr. Eric Christian http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph..._of_light.html "Einstein went on to discover a more general theory of relativity which explained gravity in terms of curved spacetime, and he talked about the speed of light changing in this new theory. In the 1920 book "Relativity: the special and general theory" he wrote: ". . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position." Since Einstein talks of velocity (a vector quantity: speed with direction) rather than speed alone, it is not clear that he meant the speed will change, but the reference to special relativity suggests that he did mean so." http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae13.cfm "So, it is absolutely true that the speed of light is not constant in a gravitational field [which, by the equivalence principle, applies as well to accelerating (non-inertial) frames of reference]. If this were not so, there would be no bending of light by the gravitational field of stars....Indeed, this is exactly how Einstein did the calculation in: 'On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light,' Annalen der Physik, 35, 1911. which predated the full formal development of general relativity by about four years. This paper is widely available in English. You can find a copy beginning on page 99 of the Dover book 'The Principle of Relativity.' You will find in section 3 of that paper, Einstein's derivation of the (variable) speed of light in a gravitational potential, eqn (3). The result is, c' = c0 ( 1 + V / c^2 ) where V is the gravitational potential relative to the point where the speed of light c0 is measured." Pentcho Valev |
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On Dec 16, 8:53*am, PD wrote:
On Dec 16, 6:24*am, Pentcho Valev wrote: On Dec 12, 11:54*am, Pentcho Valev wrote: Philosophers of science dealing with axiomatic (deductive) systems have devised what may be called the hat-of-the-magician model of science. Einstein: "Guided by empirical data, the investigator rather develops a system of thought which, in general, is built up logically from a small number of fundamental assumptions, the so called axioms." The problem is that "building up logically" is taken to constitute the interior of magician's hat where you put ties which are then turned to rabbits. Then Popper only worries when a wolf rather than a rabbit jumps out of the hat, Feyerabend vindicates the existence of the hat in a world where "anything goes" etc. The magician is free to rearrange the interior of the hat so that always rabbits and never wolves jump out of it. For instance, Einstein initially introduces his false postulate of constancy of the speed of light, deduces miracles from it (time dilation, length contraction etc.) and becomes "Divine Einstein". Later he introduces the postulate's true antithesis (the speed of light varies with both the speed of the light source and the gravitational potential) and obtains results confirmed by experiments. That is, by combining the thesis and the antithesis, the theory becomes an INCONSISTENCY: a malignant formation that experiments do confirm: W. H. Newton-Smith, The rationality of science, Routledge, London, 1981, p. 229: "A theory ought to be internally consistent. The grounds for including this factor are a priori. For given a realist construal of theories, our concern is with verisimilitude, and if a theory is inconsistent it will contain every sentence of the language, as the following simple argument shows. Let 'q' be an arbitrary sentence of the language and suppose that the theory is inconsistent. This means that we can derive the sentence 'p and not-p'. From this 'p' follows. And from 'p' it follows that 'p or q' (if 'p' is true then 'p or q' will be true no matter whether 'q' is true or not). Equally, it follows from 'p and not-p' that 'not-p'. But 'not-p' together with 'p or q' entails 'q'. Thus once we admit an inconsistency into our theory we have to admit everything." Unless EXPERIMENTAL verification of theories is replaced by LOGICAL verification, science has no future. "Building up logically" should be tested, not the final results. Contrary to what Popper and Einstein taught, in natural sciences, the introduction of an axiom only apparently marks the beginning of a theory building. Essentially, the introduction of an axiom marks the beginning of the process of fitting the axiom into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature. For that reason the introduction of a false axiom automatically converts the respective theory into an inconsistency, insofar as the true alternative of the false axiom is already present, implicitly, in "the preexisting system of knowledge". This is *FLAT* wrong. The history of science puts the lie to this statement. There is NO requirement that an axiom needs to "fit into the preexisting system of knowledge about Nature". The entire history of science is *littered* with fundamental shifts that marked the occasion of the introduction of axioms that were completely inconsistent with the preexisting system of knowledge: - Galileo: No force is required to compel a body in motion to remain in motion. - Copernicus: The heavens are not geocentric. - Columbus: There is no edge to the world. - Carnot: Perfect engine efficiency is not possible, even in principle. - Darwin: Species are created by natural diversification and natural selection. - Maxwell: Electricity and magnetism are the same phenomenon, and light is electromagnetism. - Planck: Energy is not continuous. - Bohr: Angular momentum is not continuous. - Heisenberg: Infinitely precise specification of a state's conjugate variables is not possible, even in principle. - Feynman: Particles do not follow definite trajectories through space. Well, a lot of those have already been reserved, though. Since the people today who study Digital Systems, A.I. computers, robotics, solar energy, wind energy, Pv cells, satellites, Fiber Optics, Holograms, masers, and lasers have already proven that most of the failling of Carnot engines is merely because of science idiots who think Maxwell wrote a bible, and Galileo invented History. Consider a mathematical system (analogous to but much simpler than the "system of knowledge about Nature") where all statements are unambiguous and true, except for the result of the operation 2+2. There are two hypotheses: 2+2=4 and 2+2=5. One somehow chooses the false hypothesis 2+2=5 (it is now an axiom) and obtains: (A) 3(2+2) = 3*5 = 15 (B) 3(2+2) = 6 + 6 = 12 Note that the true conclusion 3(2+2)=12 belongs to the theory initiated by the false axiom 2+2=5, so if an experiment somehow tests this particular conclusion, the theory (rather, the inconsistency) would prove deceptively correct. Since the experimental verification is unreliable in the case of inconsistency, REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM (forgotten in the era of Postscientism) remains the only reasonable procedure leading to falsification. If it were used, the following case of trapping a long pole inside a short barn would have led to an immediate refutation of Einstein's theory: http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/ph...barn_pole.html "These are the props. You own a barn, 40m long, with automatic doors at either end, that can be opened and closed simultaneously by a switch. You also have a pole, 80m long, which of course won't fit in the barn....So, as the pole passes through the barn, there is an instant when it is completely within the barn. At that instant, you close both doors simultaneously, with your switch. Of course, you open them again pretty quickly, but at least momentarily you had the contracted pole shut up in your barn." If Einsteinians fail to reopen the doors "pretty quickly", the length L of the pole trapped inside the barn would be: (A) L = 40 because the trapped pole cannot be longer than the barn. (B) L = 80 because that is the proper length and the pole is no longer in motion. Both conclusions, L=40 and L=80, belong to Einstein's theory (rather, Einstein's inconsistency). Pentcho Valev - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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