Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

Our Selene/moon currently receives 12~18e3 t/yr, most of which sticks
with that highly reactive and unavoidably electrostatic charged
surface. Of course going back in time is what makes for an extremely
crystal dry and otherwise extra dusty old moon. By now our naked
Selene/moon should have collected solids upwards of 1e18 kg (on
average that’s 2.63e4 kg/m2). Now that’s some kind of dusty
environment, especially since most of that crystal dry substance is
going to be found within natural terrain basin areas and of course
within craters, as for having dry flowed or migrated onto such
relatively flat surfaces that might tend to suggest our future fly-by-
rocket landers as having to cope with such a crystal dry and otherwise
fluffy/uncompacted 5e4 kg/m2. (perhaps they’ll need extremely long
legs, a good periscope and the antistatic coating of Po210)

In spite of all the electrostatic charged dust, cosmic gamma, solar X-
rays and of its naked anticathode reactive nature, our Selene/moon as
relocated to Earth L1 and then having its continuous day/night
terminator used for surface and underground habitats is something we
can eventually do. Easy, not hardly, but highly beneficial to the
environment of Earth and otherwise for properly utilizing our Selene/
moon for all it’s worth.

Our Selene/moon offers loads of internal pressures and day/night
thermal differentials, though it's naked surface is also offering more
of a terrific energy worth of vacuum and of an extreme thermal
differential environment, along with its 100% renewable 1.4 kw/m2 plus
local secondary IR to work with (ideal for Stirling engines that can
use all the thermal differential they can get).

Imagine our moon as having been relocated to the halo orbit of Earth
L1, and of what one could then accomplish on behalf of salvaging the
frail environment of Earth, and of otherwise our living rather
efficiently within suitable habitats constructed along or if need be
underground within the day/night terminator (all 10,900 km worth of
it), not to mention the 256e6 tonne LSE-CM/ISS tethered to/from the
new and improved Earth-moon L1 (Selene/moon L1) as having a cold but
nicely earthshine illuminated vacuum of 1e-21 bar.

The average lunar density of 3.346 g/cm3 is suggesting of a fairly low
density mantle interior that’s below a relatively thick and robust
basalt crust that’s chuck full of heavy mineral solids and those raw
gaseous elements, though apparently including water @260 ppm, and
otherwise having loads of raw sodium, nearly unlimited oxygen,
hydrogen and helium (as in He3) plus any number of easily accessible
radioactive mineral substances such as thorium. The average lunar
crust density could offer an impressive 8(+/-4) g/cm3, an impressive
range of 4 to 12 g/cm3, whereas the upper interior mantle as little as
3(+/-1) g/cm3, and perhaps somewhat less density inside of that, along
with having little if any iron core if not offering a somewhat geode
balloon like hollow center created by the geothermal environment and
reactive minerals.

Could humans survive within the moon? (I don’t see why not)

Even habitats created near the surface should become livable and
expandable via robotic digging machines.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

Our Selene/moon currently receives 12~18e3 t/yr, most of which sticks
with that highly reactive and unavoidably electrostatic charged
surface. Of course going back in time is what makes for an extremely
crystal dry and otherwise extra dusty old moon. By now our naked
Selene/moon should have collected solids upwards of 1e18 kg (on
average that’s 2.63e4 kg/m2). Now that’s some kind of dusty
environment, especially since most of that crystal dry substance is
going to be found within natural terrain basin areas and of course
within craters, as for having dry flowed or migrated onto such
relatively flat surfaces that might tend to suggest our future fly-by-
rocket landers as having to cope with such a crystal dry and otherwise
fluffy/uncompacted 5e4 kg/m2. (perhaps they’ll need extremely long
legs, a good periscope and the antistatic coating of Po210)

In spite of all the electrostatic charged dust, cosmic gamma, solar X-
rays and of its naked anticathode reactive nature, our Selene/moon as
relocated to Earth L1 and then having its continuous day/night
terminator used for surface and underground habitats is something we
can eventually do. Easy, not hardly, but highly beneficial to the
environment of Earth and otherwise for properly utilizing our Selene/
moon for all it’s worth.

Our Selene/moon offers loads of internal pressures and day/night
thermal differentials, though it's naked surface is also offering more
of a terrific energy worth of vacuum and of an extreme thermal
differential environment, along with its 100% renewable 1.4 kw/m2 plus
local secondary IR to work with (ideal for Stirling engines that can
use all the thermal differential they can get).

Imagine our moon as having been relocated to the halo orbit of Earth
L1, and of what one could then accomplish on behalf of salvaging the
frail environment of Earth, and of otherwise our living rather
efficiently within suitable habitats constructed along or if need be
underground within the day/night terminator (all 10,900 km worth of
it), not to mention the 256e6 tonne LSE-CM/ISS tethered to/from the
new and improved Earth-moon L1 (Selene/moon L1) as having a cold but
nicely earthshine illuminated vacuum of 1e-21 bar.

The average lunar density of 3.346 g/cm3 is suggesting of a fairly low
density mantle interior that’s below a relatively thick and robust
basalt crust that’s chuck full of heavy mineral solids and those raw
gaseous elements, though apparently including water @260 ppm, and
otherwise having loads of raw sodium, nearly unlimited oxygen,
hydrogen and helium (as in He3) plus any number of easily accessible
radioactive mineral substances such as thorium. The average lunar
crust density could offer an impressive 8(+/-4) g/cm3, an impressive
range of 4 to 12 g/cm3, whereas the upper interior mantle as little as
3(+/-1) g/cm3, and perhaps somewhat less density inside of that, along
with having little if any iron core if not offering a somewhat geode
balloon like hollow center created by the geothermal environment and
reactive minerals.

Could humans survive within the moon? (I don’t see why not)

Even habitats created near the surface should become livable and
expandable via robotic digging machines.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Moon dust is more like black diamond shards or at least ceramic and
carbon crystals that’ll bring most anything mechanical or biological
to a halt. It’s also highly electrostatic charged and of enough
density that it’s making for a very good anticathode, in that cosmic
gamma unavoidably interacts and thereby has to create those pesky
hard, medium and soft secondary/recoil gamma that in turn create hard,
medium and soft X-rays as coming at your frail DNA from nearly every
possible direction that involves roughly 3e6 m2 worth of reactive
anticathode surface. (in other words, what could possibly go wrong?)

The mascon populated Selene/moon surface bedrock is not the least bit
shy of high density matter, including minerals of thorium, uranium and
just loads of good old iron and titanium, all of which constitute
perfectly nifty anticathode material, that which the given influx of
cosmic, solar and not to exclude locally derived radiation can’t but
help interact with everything in sight. Since there’s so little
atmospheric density means there’s darn little if any measurable
attenuation via distance. Therefore, as far as the eye can see and
perhaps as much as 10% beyond that becomes a direct source of local
gamma and X-rays to add to all the incoming gauntlet of gamma and X-
rays.

The SIRO mission was supposed to map such deposits and local elements
to a greater extent and resolution than ever before. However, it
seems there are recent complications, such as our DARPA and NASA have
been getting in the way of sharing such science. Apparently ISRO
wasn’t properly advised by our DARPA and NASA as to the extent of
direct and secondary IR that’s currently roasting some of their
science efforts, or the extent of gamma that’s likely saturating most
everything.

Perhaps ISRO should just toss in the towel, and call it quits before
we have to ABL or directly nuke their efforts.

~ BG

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.


No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

On Nov 26, 6:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

1e18 kg = 1e15 tonnes = 1000 teratonnes (and that's the minimal
accounting that I'd come up with, as it could be ten fold worse)

That's kind of what may be the case of our not seeing very much of the
actual moon, although vertical terrain has little of that nasty dust
to contend with, say especially if its slope is greater than 45
degrees. Of whatever's steeper than 60 degrees should be mostly of
naked basalt bedrock.

~ BG

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 6:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

1e18 kg = 1e15 tonnes = 1000 teratonnes (and that's the minimal
accounting that I'd come up with, as it could be ten fold worse)

That's kind of what may be the case of our not seeing very much of the
actual moon, although vertical terrain has little of that nasty dust
to contend with, say especially if its slope is greater than 45
degrees. Of whatever's steeper than 60 degrees should be mostly of
naked basalt bedrock.

~ BG

Sort of like the same stuff your brain is made of ... basalt rock.
Hagar

On Nov 27, 9:49 am, "Hagar" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Nov 26, 6:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:



"BradGuth" wrote in message

....
On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

1e18 kg = 1e15 tonnes = 1000 teratonnes (and that's the minimal
accounting that I'd come up with, as it could be ten fold worse)

That's kind of what may be the case of our not seeing very much of the
actual moon, although vertical terrain has little of that nasty dust
to contend with, say especially if its slope is greater than 45
degrees. Of whatever's steeper than 60 degrees should be mostly of
naked basalt bedrock.

~ BG

Sort of like the same stuff your brain is made of ... basalt rock.
Hagar

You obviously can not explain why those JAXA and ISRO obtained images
are not looking all that NASA/Apollo like. Is it going to be the same
mainstream status quo bullyism at better than one meter/pixel?

~ BG

"BradGuth" wrote in message
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On Nov 26, 6:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

...
On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

1e18 kg = 1e15 tonnes = 1000 teratonnes (and that's the minimal
accounting that I'd come up with, as it could be ten fold worse)


What about microtons: that solitary grain of sand?

On Nov 27, 8:25 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message

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On Nov 26, 6:19 pm, "Mark Earnest" wrote:



"BradGuth" wrote in message

....
On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:

Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

No one's ever seen the Moon. It is covered by megatons of astral debris
from outer space.

1e18 kg = 1e15 tonnes = 1000 teratonnes (and that's the minimal
accounting that I'd come up with, as it could be ten fold worse)

What about microtons: that solitary grain of sand?

Sand via erosion is not a significant contributor to what's on the
physically dark surface of our Selene/moon, especially once the
surface gets a blanket of local and cosmic deposits that would pretty
much bring whatever factors of local erosion to a halt.

A portion of the secondary shards created from each impact would
become somewhat sand like, and if that surface was anything like our
Apollo missions depicted (looking very guano island like and rather
nicely clumping), as such there should have been great numbers of
meteorites and large secondary shards of basalt for as far as their
unfiltered Kodak eye could see, at least populated by 100 fold more so
than depicted on Mars.

Of course if that Selene/moon hasn't been with us until somewhat
recently, and especially if it had arrived with a thick layer of salty
ice would change everything.

It has also been suggested that 40% of the displaced crater mass
ended up here on Earth, in which case there is moon basalt rock just
about everywhere on Earth. Impressive if even 10% managed to find
Earth. On the web is a crater simulator that'll offer some of the
displacement estimates per given impact, although you may need to
further extrapolate in order to get some better idea as to what kind
of debris tonnage those moon craters represent.

Earth Impact Effects Program
http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/

~ BG

On Nov 26, 7:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Moon dust that you don’t want in your eyes, or for that matter
anywhere else:

If you must believe the moon has always been with Earth and mostly
created from Earth, was never a captured planetoid and having never
been covered by any thick layer of ice, by now there's at least 1e18
kg of dust and/or other accumulations upon its 3.8e13 m2 surface. Do
the math.

Our Selene/moon currently receives 12~18e3 t/yr, most of which sticks
with that highly reactive and unavoidably electrostatic charged
surface. Of course going back in time is what makes for an extremely
crystal dry and otherwise extra dusty old moon. By now our naked
Selene/moon should have collected solids upwards of 1e18 kg (on
average that’s 2.63e4 kg/m2). Now that’s some kind of dusty
environment, especially since most of that crystal dry substance is
going to be found within natural terrain basin areas and of course
within craters, as for having dry flowed or migrated onto such
relatively flat surfaces that might tend to suggest our future fly-by-
rocket landers as having to cope with such a crystal dry and otherwise
fluffy/uncompacted 5e4 kg/m2. (perhaps they’ll need extremely long
legs, a good periscope and the antistatic coating of Po210)

In spite of all the electrostatic charged dust, cosmic gamma, solar X-
rays and of its naked anticathode reactive nature, our Selene/moon as
relocated to Earth L1 and then having its continuous day/night
terminator used for surface and underground habitats is something we
can eventually do. Easy, not hardly, but highly beneficial to the
environment of Earth and otherwise for properly utilizing our Selene/
moon for all it’s worth.

Our Selene/moon offers loads of internal pressures and day/night
thermal differentials, though it's naked surface is also offering more
of a terrific energy worth of vacuum and of an extreme thermal
differential environment, along with its 100% renewable 1.4 kw/m2 plus
local secondary IR to work with (ideal for Stirling engines that can
use all the thermal differential they can get).

Imagine our moon as having been relocated to the halo orbit of Earth
L1, and of what one could then accomplish on behalf of salvaging the
frail environment of Earth, and of otherwise our living rather
efficiently within suitable habitats constructed along or if need be
underground within the day/night terminator (all 10,900 km worth of
it), not to mention the 256e6 tonne LSE-CM/ISS tethered to/from the
new and improved Earth-moon L1 (Selene/moon L1) as having a cold but
nicely earthshine illuminated vacuum of 1e-21 bar.

The average lunar density of 3.346 g/cm3 is suggesting of a fairly low
density mantle interior that’s below a relatively thick and robust
basalt crust that’s chuck full of heavy mineral solids and those raw
gaseous elements, though apparently including water @260 ppm, and
otherwise having loads of raw sodium, nearly unlimited oxygen,
hydrogen and helium (as in He3) plus any number of easily accessible
radioactive mineral substances such as thorium. The average lunar
crust density could offer an impressive 8(+/-4) g/cm3, an impressive
range of 4 to 12 g/cm3, whereas the upper interior mantle as little as
3(+/-1) g/cm3, and perhaps somewhat less density inside of that, along
with having little if any iron core if not offering a somewhat geode
balloon like hollow center created by the geothermal environment and
reactive minerals.

Could humans survive within the moon? (I don’t see why not)

Even habitats created near the surface should become livable and
expandable via robotic digging machines.

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


In addition to the secondary shards of mineral enriched basalt, moon
dust is more like black diamond shards, or at least carbon infused
ceramic crystals that’ll bring most anything mechanical or biological
to a halt. It’s also highly electrostatic charged and of enough
density that it’s making for a very good anticathode, in that cosmic
gamma unavoidably interacts and thereby has to create those pesky
hard, medium and soft secondary/recoil gamma that in turn create hard,
medium and soft X-rays as coming at your frail DNA from nearly every
possible direction that involves roughly 3e6 m2 worth of reactive
anticathode surface. (in other words, what could possibly go wrong?)

The mascon populated crust of Selene’s bedrock is not the least bit
shy of high density matter, including mineral concentrations of
thorium, uranium and just loads of good old iron and titanium, all of
which constitute perfectly nifty anticathode material, that which the
given influx of cosmic, solar and not to exclude locally derived
radiation can’t but help interact with most everything in sight.
Since there’s so little atmospheric density means there’s darn little
if any measurable attenuation via distance. Therefore, as far as the
eye can see and perhaps as much as 10% beyond that (we’re talking at
least 3e6 m2) becomes a direct source of local plus secondary gamma
and X-rays to add to all the incoming gauntlet of fresh gamma and X-
rays.

The ongoing ISRO mission was supposed to map such deposits and local
elements to a greater extent and resolution than ever before.
However, it seems there are recent though unofficial complications,
such as our DARPA and NASA having been getting in the way of sharing
such science. Apparently ISRO wasn’t properly advised as to the
extent of direct and secondary IR that’s currently roasting some of
their science efforts, or as to the sodium atmosphere and extent of
gamma that’s likely saturating most everything and putting their
entire mission at risk.

Perhaps the ISRO team should just toss in the towel, and call it quits
before we have to ABL, S-Band microwave or if need be directly nuke
their efforts.

~ BG

we can live there but we will miss the ground coz we cannot touch the
ground coz we r floating up there..
before we move there, scientists must find out the way so that we're
not floating when we live there..

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