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Old August 8th 08, 06:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
kT
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...rumblings.html

You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!

Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!

With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.

These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/
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Old August 9th 08, 12:26 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
bob haller safety advocate
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!

On Aug 8, 1:12�pm, kT wrote:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...ff/2008/08/mor...

You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!

Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!

With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.

These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


sad isnt it, pure pork piggie with no regard to affordability

new crew vehicle should of gone on existing expendables at time of
columbia loss, and shuttle replacement decision.

Makes one wonder if all govenment agencies have similiar agendas? if
they do it appears over 50% of all government spending is pure waste

nASA runs the big isk of being discredited by a private launch
operation in operation.

if a private company is successful at launching to ISS for a small
fraction of nasa cost, its going to be ugly for the agency.
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Old August 9th 08, 01:48 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!


"kT" wrote in message
...
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...rumblings.html

You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!

Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!

With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.

These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.

http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/




National Policy
91.2 MANNED SPACE STATION

(Adopted by Council on January 20, 1991)

The Council of the American Physical Society is concerned that there
remains widespread public and governmental misunderstanding of the
justification for the Manned Space Station. After a review of the
experimental program proposed for the Space Station the Council
is issuing the following statement:

It is the view of the Council of the American Physical Society
that scientific justification is lacking for a permanently manned space
station in earth orbit. We are concerned that the potential contributions
of a manned space station to the physical sciences have been greatly
overstated and that many of the scientific objectives currently planned
for the space station could be accomplished more effectively and at
a much lower cost on earth, on unmanned robotic platforms, or
on the shuttle.

The United States needs a vigorous space science program, but such
a program can be implemented for the foreseeable future without
the proposed manned space station.
http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/91_2.cfm







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Old August 9th 08, 02:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
bob haller safety advocate
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!

On Aug 9, 8:48�am, "jonathan" wrote:
"kT" wrote in message

...

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...ff/2008/08/mor...


You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!


Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!


With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.


These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.


http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


National Policy
91.2 MANNED SPACE STATION

(Adopted by Council on January 20, 1991)

The Council of the American Physical Society is concerned that there
remains widespread public and governmental misunderstanding of the
justification for the Manned Space Station. After a review of the
experimental program proposed for �the Space Station the Council
is issuing the following statement:

It is the view of the Council of the American Physical Society
that scientific justification is lacking for a permanently manned space
station in earth orbit. �We are concerned that the potential contributions
of a manned space station to the physical sciences have been greatly
overstated and that many of the scientific objectives currently planned
for the space station could be �accomplished more effectively and at
a much lower cost on earth, on unmanned robotic platforms, or
on the shuttle.

The United States needs a vigorous space science program, but such
a program can be implemented for the foreseeable future without
the proposed manned space station.http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/91_2.cfm


well its been a waste, however ISS is a great example on how NOT to
run a program!

NASAs charter should be changed to exploration only, and give a 15
year no taxes on any money making space activities tax break to
private industry.

meanwhile spend nasa money on exploration, like mars, unmanned probes
of all planets, some fast intential out of the solar system
exploration with special interest in asteroids and comets, landers on
some near earth asteroids and mars, and what the heck return to the
moon.

but first return to moon robotically for devlopment reasons. blanket
suitable planets with knock offs of spirit and opportunities
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Old August 12th 08, 05:24 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
Mike Rhino[_4_]
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!


"bob haller safety advocate" wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 8:48�am, "jonathan" wrote:
"kT" wrote in message

...

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...ff/2008/08/mor...


You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!


Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!


With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.


These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.


http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


National Policy
91.2 MANNED SPACE STATION

(Adopted by Council on January 20, 1991)

The Council of the American Physical Society is concerned that there
remains widespread public and governmental misunderstanding of the
justification for the Manned Space Station. After a review of the
experimental program proposed for �the Space Station the Council
is issuing the following statement:

It is the view of the Council of the American Physical Society
that scientific justification is lacking for a permanently manned space
station in earth orbit. �We are concerned that the potential contributions
of a manned space station to the physical sciences have been greatly
overstated and that many of the scientific objectives currently planned
for the space station could be �accomplished more effectively and at
a much lower cost on earth, on unmanned robotic platforms, or
on the shuttle.

The United States needs a vigorous space science program, but such
a program can be implemented for the foreseeable future without
the proposed manned space
station.http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/91_2.cfm


.. well its been a waste, however ISS is a great example on how NOT to
.. run a program!

.. NASAs charter should be changed to exploration only, and give a 15
.. year no taxes on any money making space activities tax break to
.. private industry.

.. meanwhile spend nasa money on exploration, like mars, unmanned probes
.. of all planets, some fast intential out of the solar system
.. exploration with special interest in asteroids and comets, landers on
.. some near earth asteroids and mars, and what the heck return to the
.. moon.

.. but first return to moon robotically for devlopment reasons. blanket
.. suitable planets with knock offs of spirit and opportunities

I disagree. Keeping people alive on the moon for an extended period is a
major engineering task, not an exploration task. I would have NASA
concentrate on that. The long term goal is to build a small town on the
moon and there is a lot of preparation work to be done.

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Old August 12th 08, 01:32 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
kT
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!

Mike Rhino wrote:

"bob haller safety advocate" wrote in message
...
On Aug 9, 8:48�am, "jonathan" wrote:
"kT" wrote in message

...

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...ff/2008/08/mor...


You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!


Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!


With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.


These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.


http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


National Policy
91.2 MANNED SPACE STATION

(Adopted by Council on January 20, 1991)

The Council of the American Physical Society is concerned that there
remains widespread public and governmental misunderstanding of the
justification for the Manned Space Station. After a review of the
experimental program proposed for �the Space Station the Council
is issuing the following statement:

It is the view of the Council of the American Physical Society
that scientific justification is lacking for a permanently manned space
station in earth orbit. �We are concerned that the potential
contributions
of a manned space station to the physical sciences have been greatly
overstated and that many of the scientific objectives currently planned
for the space station could be �accomplished more effectively and at
a much lower cost on earth, on unmanned robotic platforms, or
on the shuttle.

The United States needs a vigorous space science program, but such
a program can be implemented for the foreseeable future without
the proposed manned space
station.http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/91_2.cfm


. well its been a waste, however ISS is a great example on how NOT to
. run a program!

. NASAs charter should be changed to exploration only, and give a 15
. year no taxes on any money making space activities tax break to
. private industry.

. meanwhile spend nasa money on exploration, like mars, unmanned probes
. of all planets, some fast intential out of the solar system
. exploration with special interest in asteroids and comets, landers on
. some near earth asteroids and mars, and what the heck return to the
. moon.

. but first return to moon robotically for devlopment reasons. blanket
. suitable planets with knock offs of spirit and opportunities

I disagree. Keeping people alive on the moon for an extended period is
a major engineering task, not an exploration task. I would have NASA
concentrate on that. The long term goal is to build a small town on the
moon and there is a lot of preparation work to be done.


It must be so lovely living in your fantasy world.

Reality awaits you, whenever you think you're ready for it.
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Old August 12th 08, 01:35 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,sci.space.station,sci.space.shuttle
bob haller safety advocate
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Default NASA Working On $500 Million Dollar ISS Ride!

On Aug 12, 12:24�am, "Mike Rhino" wrote:
"bob haller safety advocate" wrote in ...
On Aug 9, 8:48 am, "jonathan" wrote:





"kT" wrote in message


...


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/new...ff/2008/08/mor....


You just have to laugh at these people. So what is the current cost of
embarrassment nowadays, usually the executives take the money and run!


Two SRBs, and four RS-68s! That a Delta IV Medium for each astronaut!


With a Delta IV Medium, each astronaut could have their own capsule.


These people are severely deluded, with no access to reality.


http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/


National Policy
91.2 MANNED SPACE STATION


(Adopted by Council on January 20, 1991)


The Council of the American Physical Society is concerned that there
remains widespread public and governmental misunderstanding of the
justification for the Manned Space Station. After a review of the
experimental program proposed for the Space Station the Council
is issuing the following statement:


It is the view of the Council of the American Physical Society
that scientific justification is lacking for a permanently manned space
station in earth orbit. We are concerned that the potential contributions
of a manned space station to the physical sciences have been greatly
overstated and that many of the scientific objectives currently planned
for the space station could be accomplished more effectively and at
a much lower cost on earth, on unmanned robotic platforms, or
on the shuttle.


The United States needs a vigorous space science program, but such
a program can be implemented for the foreseeable future without
the proposed manned space
station.http://www.aps.org/policy/statements/91_2.cfm


. well its been a waste, however ISS is a great example on how NOT to
. run a program!

. NASAs charter should be changed to exploration only, and give a 15
. year no taxes on any money making space activities tax break to
. private industry.

. meanwhile spend nasa money on exploration, like mars, unmanned probes
. of all planets, some fast intential out of the solar system
. exploration with special interest in asteroids and comets, landers on
. some near earth asteroids and mars, and what the heck return to the
. moon.

. but first return to moon robotically for devlopment reasons. blanket
. suitable planets with knock offs of spirit and opportunities

I disagree. �Keeping people alive on the moon for an extended period is a
major engineering task, not an exploration task. �I would have NASA
concentrate on that. �The long term goal is to build a small town on the
moon and there is a lot of preparation work to be done.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


hey skylab was much more effective for science, thn ISS, which became
a diplomacy program to work and depend on russians. look how well that
turned out
 




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