Most boring images yet

Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!


http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8

On Mon, 26 May 2008 04:40:58 GMT, "Mars Riesling"
wrote:

Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!

That's a superficial assessment. No doubt, to the eyes of a trained
geologist, geomorphologist, image analyst, etc, there is a huge amount
of information to be gleaned from the images that will be collected in
this previously unvisited area of Mars. All the more so when the image
data is combined with other instrumental data.
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Mars Riesling wrote:

Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8

This is the wrong forum for that. You need to convey directly to NASA
and the LPL at UA what you have concluded from your deep experience as
an areologist and image analyst. Electric power is a precious commodity
on a spacecraft sitting on Mars, and any little bit saved by not having
to transmit photos will be important.

Be prepared to travel. I expect that when they hear from you they will
want you on the team.

By the way, did you just learn of this mission last evening? Did you
think that this was primarily an imaging mission?

Davoud

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Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you
image
nothing!!


http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8




You may not be a scientist, nor have the curiosity of one.

You too asshole!

I was just sitting here wide-eyed with my mouth hanging open staring at
the first images... "That's actually on MARS..."
I guess I'm just easily entertained.
Marty

Mars Riesling wrote:
Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!

Troll. The real wonder why you can't just converse like a normal person.

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To reply take out your eye

On 2008-05-26, Mars Riesling wrote:
Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8

What's wrong with it? Straight away you can reasonably confidently
draw one conclusion: the lander is not level. That does have a
bearing in that it means that wind direction information will be
offset slightly.

Second that fact that there is 'nothing' there is information in
itself. No cities, transport routes or telegraph poles. Nothing
for the Martian civilisation wackos to get excited about. By
looking for something and repeatedly not finding it you can state
that it is not there with increasing confidence.

Thirdly, there _is_ something of interest there. I'm no geologist
but I'm sure a lot of useful information can be gathered from
looking at the surface features that are there. They may not be
magnificient mountain ranges or deep canyons but that was expected
before the probe even launched. The details that _are_ there will
tell us just as much.

Next, if you actually bothered to read up on the mission before
posting you would have noticed that one aspect is to rearch the
refractive properties of the Martian atmosphere in different
conditions. That will be done over the course of many pictures
and they don't need to be of 'interesting' features for the data
obtained to be valid. So yes, imaging _is_ is big part of this
mission.

Finally, since when has science been all about pretty pictures?
We've been there done that with Viking. The pictures released so
far have primarily been concerned with making sure various parts
of the probe have deployed correctly. It's hardly surprising that
you end up with pictures of solar panels, lander feet and the like
if those were the pictures you were trying to take.

--
Andrew Smallshaw

Andrew Smallshaw wrote:
On 2008-05-26, Mars Riesling wrote:
Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you image
nothing!!

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8

What's wrong with it? Straight away you can reasonably confidently
draw one conclusion: the lander is not level. That does have a
bearing in that it means that wind direction information will be
offset slightly.

Actually it was announced after landing that lander was very level. I
don't recall the number, but it was only tilted by a few degrees.

FYI: this troll is just jerking your chain, Dude. Some sick people get
their kicks this way.

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Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

"Mars Riesling" wrote in message
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Imaging will NOT be big on this missions list. How many ways can you
image nothing!!


http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=396&cID=8


Those regular-looking patterns need only a minimum of vegetation to be
terrestrial arctic permafrost.

"Greg Crinklaw" wrote

Actually it was announced after landing that lander was very level. I
don't recall the number, but it was only tilted by a few degrees.

The tilt announced shortly after landing is 1/4 degree -- that's pretty
level!

As far as the pictures of the landscape go, I think they're pretty
fascinating, as the landscape at the poles is very different from those
taken by the other landers and rovers.