Secret Soviet Space Losses

According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...agle-flew.html

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."


Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, wrote:
According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-lark-or-eagle...

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."

Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

How do you that is a valid source?

On Jan 27, 3:15 pm, wrote:
On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, wrote:



According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-lark-or-eagle...

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."

Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

How do you that is a valid source?


Well, the article is quoting from Pravda:

http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/2001/04/12/3502.html

Why would Pravda fabricate a non-existent Soviet space disaster?

On Jan 27, 9:14 pm, wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:15 pm, wrote:



On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, wrote:

According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-lark-or-eagle...

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."

Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

How do you that is a valid source?

Well, the article is quoting from Pravda:

http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/2001/04/12/3502.html

Why would Pravda fabricate a non-existent Soviet space disaster?

Pravda has printed fallacies before

wrote:
According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...agle-flew.html

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."


Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

A few real disasters on the ground, like Valentin Bondarenko's pressure
chamber fire. A few in-flight near-disasters, like Soyuz 5 and Soyuz
TM-5. But all the in-flight disaster stories have proven to be hoaxes,
including all the ones you listed.

James Oberg's /Uncovering Soviet Disasters/ covered the subject pretty
well in 1988. His website has an updated electronic version.

wrote:
On Jan 27, 3:15 pm, wrote:
On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, wrote:



According to:
http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-lark-or-eagle...
"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."
Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?
How do you that is a valid source?


Well, the article is quoting from Pravda:

http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/2001/04/12/3502.html

Why would Pravda fabricate a non-existent Soviet space disaster?

Pravda started as a CPSU propaganda rag and is now a tabloid rag. If
there was an interim period where it was a responsible newspaper, it
must have been very short. Today it is no more credible than the
National Enquirer.

On Jan 27, 9:30 pm, "Jorge R. Frank" wrote:

Pravda started as a CPSU propaganda rag and is now a tabloid rag.

A decided improvement. It certainly has more entertaining pictures
now.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/mys...aterrestrial-0

We know these disasters didn't happen. Soviet production of the early
R-7 space launch variants was very limited, and historians can track
the fate of every one. There were no unaccounted-for cosmonauts
before Gagarin, and could not have been, There were no unaccounted-
for boosters they could have flown on, or any launches the US detected
that had unknown heavy payloads.

On Jan 27, 9:56*pm, wrote:
On Jan 27, 9:14 pm, wrote:





On Jan 27, 3:15 pm, wrote:

On Jan 27, 6:11 pm, wrote:

According to:

http://fallbackbelmont.blogspot.com/...-lark-or-eagle....

"As 40 years have passed since Gagarin's flight, new sensational
details of this event were disclosed: Gagarin was not the first man
to fly to space. Three Soviet pilots died in attempts to conquer
space before Gagarin's famous space flight, Mikhail Rudenko,
senior engineer-experimenter with Experimental Design Office
456 (located in Khimki, in the Moscow region) said on Thursday.
According to Rudenko, spacecraft with pilots Ledovskikh, Shaborin
and Mitkov at the controls were launched from the Kapustin Yar
cosmodrome (in the Astrakhan region) in 1957, 1958 and 1959.
"All three pilots died during the flights, and their names were never
officially published," Rudenko said."

Since the fall of the USSR, how many other Soviet space
disasters have come to light?

How do you that is a valid source?

Well, the article is quoting from Pravda:

http://english.pravda.ru/accidents/2001/04/12/3502.html

Why would Pravda fabricate a non-existent Soviet space disaster?

Pravda has printed fallacies before

I thought Pravda meant truth...

(ducking)

On Jan 28, 3:34 pm, Eric Chomko wrote:
On Jan 27, 9:56 pm, wrote:



I thought Pravda meant truth...

(ducking)

Indeed but it came to mean the truth as the gowernment whished it
to be believed as being. That truth was cleary an extremelly mallable
thing.

This might interest anyone who is not a Putin fan:

The Myth of the Authoritarian Model: How Putin's Crackdown Holds
Russia Back
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/200801...ian-model.html


Einar