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Old May 23rd 07, 08:00 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 23, 8:44 am, (oldcoot) wrote:
(Apologies if this duplicates. The first attempt to send it on the DSL
rig apparently failed.)

From Painius, replying to Mr.Duck:

Have you attempted to falsify the Flowing Space Theology yet?


Apply the same question to the Big Bang theology er, model. For all the
evidence supporting a superhot Genesis Event, i.e., the Big Bang, it
does no explain where the BB came from. Therefore the model is false.
(Note facetiousness and sarcasm.)



If all the mass of the universe were once contained in one
singularity, time would be infinitely dilated, and so no events could
ever occur, not even a Big Bang.

Double-A


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Old May 24th 07, 07:35 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 23, 8:44 am, (oldcoot) wrote:
(Apologies if this duplicates. The first attempt to send it on the DSL
rig apparently failed.)

From Painius, replying to Mr.Duck:

Have you attempted to falsify the Flowing Space Theology yet?


Apply the same question to the Big Bang theology er, model. For all the
evidence supporting a superhot Genesis Event, i.e., the Big Bang, it
does no explain where the BB came from. Therefore the model is false.
(Note facetiousness and sarcasm.)


If all the mass of the universe were once contained in one
singularity, time would be infinitely dilated, and so no events could
ever occur, not even a Big Bang.

Double-A


That's the tricky part for science, AA. So there is
only one thing to do... one has to make a choice.

It's a simple choice to be sure. It's either...

LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!

or...

LET THERE BE AN UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE !!!!

Religion or science, take your pick.

The UP allows for just enough of an anomaly to
make it possible for the BB to occur.

Science replaced God with Uncertainty. Most
people can hardly tell the difference.

happy days and...
starry starry nights

--
A secret of the Universe,
So please don't breathe a word of this,
Selene, the Moon, will smile perverse
When e'er she sees true lovers kiss--
Breathe not a single word of this.

Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old May 24th 07, 08:46 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 23, 11:35 pm, "Painius" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 23, 8:44 am, (oldcoot) wrote:
(Apologies if this duplicates. The first attempt to send it on the DSL
rig apparently failed.)


From Painius, replying to Mr.Duck:


Have you attempted to falsify the Flowing Space Theology yet?


Apply the same question to the Big Bang theology er, model. For all the
evidence supporting a superhot Genesis Event, i.e., the Big Bang, it
does no explain where the BB came from. Therefore the model is false.
(Note facetiousness and sarcasm.)


If all the mass of the universe were once contained in one
singularity, time would be infinitely dilated, and so no events could
ever occur, not even a Big Bang.


Double-A


That's the tricky part for science, AA. So there is
only one thing to do... one has to make a choice.

It's a simple choice to be sure. It's either...

LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!

or...

LET THERE BE AN UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE !!!!

Religion or science, take your pick.

The UP allows for just enough of an anomaly to
make it possible for the BB to occur.

Science replaced God with Uncertainty. Most
people can hardly tell the difference.

happy days and...
starry starry nights



Perhaps there is little difference, because if God acts in mysterious
ways that stay within the realm of the uncertain, and never violate
the laws of probability, then there is no way to detect or prove
either his existence, or non-existence.

Double-A


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Old May 24th 07, 09:46 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 23, 11:35 pm, "Painius" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 23, 8:44 am, (oldcoot) wrote:
(Apologies if this duplicates. The first attempt to send it on the DSL
rig apparently failed.)


From Painius, replying to Mr.Duck:


Have you attempted to falsify the Flowing Space Theology yet?


Apply the same question to the Big Bang theology er, model. For all
the
evidence supporting a superhot Genesis Event, i.e., the Big Bang, it
does no explain where the BB came from. Therefore the model is false.
(Note facetiousness and sarcasm.)


If all the mass of the universe were once contained in one
singularity, time would be infinitely dilated, and so no events could
ever occur, not even a Big Bang.


Double-A


That's the tricky part for science, AA. So there is
only one thing to do... one has to make a choice.

It's a simple choice to be sure. It's either...

LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!

or...

LET THERE BE AN UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE !!!!

Religion or science, take your pick.

The UP allows for just enough of an anomaly to
make it possible for the BB to occur.

Science replaced God with Uncertainty. Most
people can hardly tell the difference.


Perhaps there is little difference, because if God acts in mysterious
ways that stay within the realm of the uncertain, and never violate
the laws of probability, then there is no way to detect or prove
either his existence, or non-existence.

Double-A


Indeed! and then there's the other side...

If the Universe behaves in mysterious ways that
stay within the realm of the uncertain, and never
violate the laws of probability, then there is no
way to detect or prove either the competence of
science, or if scientists are just being lazy. g

happy days and...
starry starry nights

--
A secret of the Universe,
So please don't breathe a word of this,
Selene, the Moon, will smile perverse
When e'er she sees true lovers kiss--
Breathe not a single word of this.

Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old May 24th 07, 05:50 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article ,
"Painius" wrote:

It's a simple choice to be sure. It's either...

LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!

or...

LET THERE BE AN UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE !!!!

Religion or science, take your pick.

The UP allows for just enough of an anomaly to
make it possible for the BB to occur.

Science replaced God with Uncertainty. Most
people can hardly tell the difference.



You can't - thats for certain.

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poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command).

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Old May 24th 07, 08:08 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Phineas T Puddleduck" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Painius" wrote:

It's a simple choice to be sure. It's either...

LET THERE BE LIGHT !!!!

or...

LET THERE BE AN UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE !!!!

Religion or science, take your pick.

The UP allows for just enough of an anomaly to
make it possible for the BB to occur.

Science replaced God with Uncertainty. Most
people can hardly tell the difference.


You can't - thats for certain.



Of a certainty, thou art correct, Phineas. I fail
to see the difference between an all-powerful,
science-law-breaking deity and an all-powerful,
science-law-breaking "principle".

With a deity, people can become lazy. Why not?
The deity will handle everything they cannot
possibly understand.

With the UP, scientists can become lazy. The UP
can be used to explain everything they cannot
possibly understand.

There is presently a merging of science and
religion that seems to be unstoppable. Even
Carl Sagan recognized it and tried to fight it
with education. As great as he was, he was as
a sand pebble on a beach about to be covered
by high tide.

I was going to save this for a future post to my
"Dedicated to Carl Sagan" thread, but here are
the references...

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/saganws.htm

http://www.csicop.org/

You fight nonsense, right? So you tell me. Is
there more nonsense or less nonsense these
days? More or fewer kooks? This is "big
picture" stuff, Phineas, so please try not to be
petty. You're the expert... you tell me.

Idle hands are the Dev^h^h^h Uncertainty
Principle's workshop.

happy days and...
starry starry nights

--
A secret of the Universe,
So please don't breathe a word of this,
Selene, the Moon, will smile perverse
When e'er she sees true lovers kiss--
Breathe not a single word of this.

Indelibly yours,
Paine
http://www.savethechildren.org/
http://www.painellsworth.net


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Old May 24th 07, 09:52 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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In article ,
"Painius" wrote:

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/saganws.htm

http://www.csicop.org/

You fight nonsense, right? So you tell me. Is
there more nonsense or less nonsense these
days? More or fewer kooks? This is "big
picture" stuff, Phineas, so please try not to be
petty. You're the expert... you tell me.

Idle hands are the Dev^h^h^h Uncertainty
Principle's workshop.



You fail to understand the HUP

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Old May 24th 07, 09:54 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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From Painius, inquiring of Mr.Duck:

You fight nonsense, right? So you tell me. Is there more nonsense or

less nonsense these days?

Heh. The parable of the fish and the bubble has been told here many
times. Mr.Fish, deep in the ocean, sees a gas bubble. To him, the bubble
is 'being' while the much-more-substantial ocean in which it is embedded
is 'not-being' or void. Of course it's an allegory of how the mainstream
perceives atomic structure of matter as 'being' and the
much-more-energy-dense substrate of space in which it's embedded as
'not-being' or Void.
Now listen to this quote, excerpted from an article by
Dr. Michio Kaku, one of the preeminent thinkers in theoretical physics.
He's parodying Genesis 1:

"...And because of the quantum principle, there were fluctuations,
fluctuations in nothing. This means that bubbles began to form from
nothing, and these bubbles began to expand and grow rapidly..."

"Bubbles in nothing", just like with Mr.Fish. And it represents the
paramount level of thought undergirding astrophysics/cosmology and
theoretical physics today, coming from one of its premier spokespersons.
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Old May 26th 07, 06:17 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On May 25, 11:36 pm, "John \"C\"" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On May 25, 7:29 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote:
In article .com,


Double-A wrote:


I snipped nothing, Puddlesuck. Read for comprehension.


BWAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA


More lies AA?


From


http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...6fb4b7fea0c11b


I posted


"No it couldn't - tired light theories have been disproved many times

over.
PS What is celerity? I take it you mean velocity. In which case, no."


Yet you replied


" PS What is celerity?


http://www.answers.com/celerity&r=67
Back to your studies!
Double-A "


Yet again proved a LIAR AA


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No, in


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...5e11387631962b


I posted, quote:


No it couldn't - tired light theories have been disproved many times

over.

PS What is celerity?


http://www.answers.com/celerity&r=67


Back to your studies!


Double-A


I take it you mean velocity. In which case, no.


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favourite

Unquote.


I inserted my commets at the appropriate place, and there is your
final comment at the bottom, unsnipped.


You snipped it yourself in your own reply, RETARDO!


Double-A


I'm convinced that the only way to get rid of this Sissy-Fag Phineass T. is
like o.c. suggested.

E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E I-G-N-O-R-E H-I-M !

NO REPLIES TO HIS HECKLING !

NO REPLIES TO PEDO DECO (if he ever comes back)!

These two creeps will eventually get tired of "NO REPLIES" and move on to
someone that they can get all excited.

Delete:
All newsgroups other than alt.astronomy as they can't give any Gay AUK
awards unless your posts are in AUK!

If ALL the Earth Science Officers do this then the Gay and Ko0kie AUKers are
powerless to give awards and heckle anyone.

I will also abide by these rules myself.

Double-A you will need to reply to my entire post so that ALL will see it,
as some have killfiled me.

OK?

Colonel Honest John


Quit reading those comic books, they are ruining what mind you have
left!

Sgt.

 




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