NASA shooting?

"Danny Deger" wrote:
more slop about how he was mistreated as NASA

*yawn*

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I'd think more to the point is how does a person get a gun into the site in
the first place.

Also, it seems that Nasa is not having a good year for people suffering
mental problems.

Brian

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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Danny Deger" wrote:
more slop about how he was mistreated as NASA

*yawn*

D.
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"Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'd think more to the point is how does a person get a gun into the site in
the first place.

I was mostly objecting to Danny once more trying to grab the center of
attention.

Tha being said, as near as I can tell (from the media) JSC doesn't
search cars entering or leaving, so getting a gun onsite is fairly
trivial if you acess to the center.

Also, it seems that Nasa is not having a good year for people suffering
mental problems.

One need not be 'mental' to be angry enough to take a gun to someone.

D.
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Here is a quote from cnn.com.

"Space Center Director Michael Coats identified the gunman as Bill Phillips,
a contract employee, and the dead victim as David Beverly, a NASA employee.
The other shooting victim has not been identified.

Police have not determined a motive for the killing, but Hurtt said that
there apparently had been "some kind of dispute" between Beverly and
Phillips. "

Does anyone know if David Beverly was a workplace bully? I won't mention
names, but anyone at JCS should able to confirm bullies are common and
tolerated by management at JSC. They drove me to the point I had to take an
early retirement. It is a shame this happened, but based on the way I was
treated, I am not surprised.

Danny Deger

On 2007-04-21 19:35:53 -0700, "Danny Deger" said:

Does anyone know if David Beverly was a workplace bully? I won't
mention names, but anyone at JCS should able to confirm bullies are
common and tolerated by management at JSC. They drove me to the point
I had to take an early retirement. It is a shame this happened, but
based on the way I was treated, I am not surprised.

Danny, that was a really ill-considered thing to post. I've been
sympathetic to you in the past, but this is over the line. Sometimes a
nut is just a nut, and siding with someone like that--and that's what
you're doing--is a symptom that you're not working on your own issues
effectively. You need to be talking these reactions over with a
therapist, not posting them to the net.


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That is your opinion, I live in the UK, and to my mind wanting to shoot
someone immediately admits you into the kook flashing red and dangerous
category!

Brian

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"Derek Lyons" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote:
I'd think more to the point is how does a person get a gun into the site
in
the first place.

I was mostly objecting to Danny once more trying to grab the center of
attention.

Tha being said, as near as I can tell (from the media) JSC doesn't
search cars entering or leaving, so getting a gun onsite is fairly
trivial if you acess to the center.

Also, it seems that Nasa is not having a good year for people suffering
mental problems.

One need not be 'mental' to be angry enough to take a gun to someone.

D.
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Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Bill Baker wrote:

On 2007-04-21 19:35:53 -0700, "Danny Deger" said:

Does anyone know if David Beverly was a workplace bully? I won't
mention names, but anyone at JCS should able to confirm bullies are
common and tolerated by management at JSC. They drove me to the point
I had to take an early retirement. It is a shame this happened, but
based on the way I was treated, I am not surprised.

Danny, that was a really ill-considered thing to post. I've been
sympathetic to you in the past, but this is over the line. Sometimes a
nut is just a nut, and siding with someone like that--and that's what
you're doing--is a symptom that you're not working on your own issues
effectively. You need to be talking these reactions over with a
therapist, not posting them to the net.

Danny has his own set of wounds from his own totally different set of
circumstance. They still appear to be festering, and not totally healed.
Hopefully, as they say, time heals all wounds. Danny's reaction and what
everyone considers an inappropriate post comes from his own experiences.
People really do tend to talk about themselves, even when talking about
others. Talking about it, is better than letting it fester, with a
therapist, or friends, or even an inappropriate post at an inappropriate
time is probably better ...

Whatever the argument between David Beverly and Bill Phillips was, it was
between them, and ended between them. In a very bad way. Really knowing
nothing about what the argument was, I would think that Bill perceived he
was wronged in some way by David. Real or imaginary. Bill's reaction to
this is inexcusable and wrong. Reminds me of another saying, two wrongs
don't make it right. There is just a lot of pain all around ...

Condolences to everyone who knew either of them,

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Derek Lyons a écrit :
"Brian Gaff" wrote:

I'd think more to the point is how does a person get a gun into the site in
the first place.


I was mostly objecting to Danny once more trying to grab the center of
attention.

Tha being said, as near as I can tell (from the media) JSC doesn't
search cars entering or leaving, so getting a gun onsite is fairly
trivial if you acess to the center.


Also, it seems that Nasa is not having a good year for people suffering
mental problems.


One need not be 'mental' to be angry enough to take a gun to someone.

D.

This is precisely the problem in the U.S.

It is considered normal to take a gun and shoot somebody.

Violence is not considered an animal and inhuman way of expressing
your feelings but a normal part of adult life. Violent crimes are
glorified in TV and in games, where always the most violent
wins.

One need not be 'mental' to be angry enough to take a gun to someone.

No. It is completely normal dude. Completely normal.

Got a bad job review?

Just let your feelings run uncontrolled and kill the reviewer.

Then kill yourself to avoid punishment like all cowards.

This is precisely the problem in the U.S.

It is considered normal to take a gun and shoot somebody.

I beg to differ. While there may be a tiny group of the population
that feels this way, it is in NO way considered normal. Not
yesterday, not today, not tomorrow.

Violence is not considered an animal and inhuman way of expressing
your feelings but a normal part of adult life. Violent crimes are
glorified in TV and in games, where always the most violent
wins.

One need not be 'mental' to be angry enough to take a gun to someone.

For a civilian to do so, except in the circumstances associated with
self defense against an individual who poses an IMMEDIATE danger to
your physical life, is indeed considered by most Americans to be wrong
and criminal.

If, for example, there is someone in your home, who poses a immediate
threat to you or your family, self defense is valid. But because they
"hurt your feelings" in the workplace, sorry same reply: Not
yesterday, not today, not tomorrow

No. It is completely normal dude. Completely normal.

Got a bad job review?

Just let your feelings run uncontrolled and kill the reviewer.

Then kill yourself to avoid punishment like all coward.

It is not normal, and anyone who believes so, is also far from
normal. To suggest that most Americans accept this behaviour must be
experiencing selective hearing and not understanding the revulsion we
react with to such things.

John

jacob navia wrote:

This is precisely the problem in the U.S.

It is considered normal to take a gun and shoot somebody.

Only in either a fantasy universe unconnected to our real one - or in
the hallucinations induced by a cheap grade of recreational
pharmaceutical.

D.
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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL