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SPACE - The Final Frontier Without Truth?
Or - The REAL NASA You Don't See... And How Things Really Work
http://www.rense.com/general49/SPACE...alfrontier.htm
By Ted Twietmeyer
2-8-4

TT: "You will read facts in this article that you have not heard before.
Everything is 100% true and as accurate as I can state it here. No
embelishments or literary license. Just the plain truth. I'm expecting great
trouble for bringing this out, but it was high time for it."

TT: "NASA is, and has always been, part of the Department of Defense. Its in
blue printing on their letterheads, and I have several of them from past
correspondence."

JO: NASA (and NACA before it) has always been an independent federal agency.
I'd be curious to see jpgs of these alleged letterheads, or better yet, the
originals before photoshop was applied to them.

I actually took a look-see; not bad!
http://www.rense.com/general49/SPACE...alfrontier.htm

Though I'd actually be rather surprised if there were any proof that
NASA wasn't a cloak on behalf of NSA/DoD agendas, after all, we'd
placed nearly all of our cold-war eggs into the Apollo basket, and
even though many things simply weren't going well, we punted. At the
time, if I were being continually lied to by our intelligence
agencies, and especially if I had such a warm and fuzzy sort of
president like GW Bush looking for absolutely any way possible of
picking a fight over energy, I would have done the very same thing.

Off onto another worthy topic that NASA has absolutely nothing to do
with.

Sirius terraforming the likes of Mars, Earth and Venus; why the hell
not?

This is another instalment upon Sirius/abc and of it's 110,000 year
too-close-for-comfort relationships to our solar system. OOPS, I
forgot, that Sirius is simply too close by and it's obviously too
chuck full of interesting issues for the likes of astronomy, obviously
offering way too much illumination and thus hidden details, not to
mention upon the photosynthesis interface with our solar system is
simply to much for the likes of smart folks to think about. In other
words "where's the money?".

Unlike most of the Hubble and SETI huggers, I certainly do make my
fair share of mistakes but, never assume anything, as chances have
become more than darn good that I'm way more right than not, and if
being even 1% correct about the likes of evolution and/or of
terraforming, or just about anything having to do with our past,
present and future is at least 99% more right than most folks are
willing to admit, especially by all those conditional morals of all
the God and Jesus huggers. Don't get we wrong, as I happen to like a
terrific God as much as anyone, just not of those Gods responsible for
allowing the likes of Popes and of GW Bush satan worshipers to get
away with whatever they desire.

BTW; I've been asked to define moral wrongness, as I have in the past,
it's still placed in relationship to what's been before our eyes for
decades, namely the willful exclusion of folks situated all around us
that could have used a little fresh water, possibly even some clean
food and shelter, and naturally an opportunity to contribute. Of
course, not having those big aircraft smashing into the tall building
your in, or of being one of those situated in flight-800 that's taking
the unfortunate time-slot of the intended Tel Aviv flight, and as for
the NASA/NSA/DoD/GW Bush way of accomplishing such warm and fuzzy good
on behalf of humanity, preferably without killing everybody first,
would obviously cost us a billion dollars per person, so why bother.

As to contiune along with this "Sirius wagging ruse" as I've been
informed;
This is just another one of my poor analogy examples, of reverse
engineering run amuck, so if you don't get the notion nor the plot,
you're not alone nor are you a lost cause, just not nearly as smart as
you thought you were.


A typical galaxy zone is 99.9999999% empty, or at best 1e-9 chuck
full.

Anything of significance within a given galaxy that's situated less
than one light year (ly) apart is more than likely already rubbing
elbows. In other words, clearly capable of affecting one another, such
as between a large solar system that could be as far across as 1 ly or
as compact as 0.001 ly, of which this disk zone of dimensional worth
would essentially be considered occupied space, even though within
said solar system is perhaps, in of itself, occupying a mere 1e-6
portion of said disk zone.

None the less, if two such galaxies get within a single ly of one
another, essentially all hell should break lose. In fact 10 ly seems
way too close for comfort, and even 100 ly probably isn't going to
last forever, whereas a healthy 1000+ ly separation is, as far as
capable of sustaining life, good for go. Meaning that even if the
closing speed between two solar systems and/or significant stellar
contenders was of 0.001 ly/y (300 km/s), that gives inhabitants
initially separated by the 1000+ ly at least a million years worth of
betting their entire farms upon surviving the impending encounter.
Obviously at a closing speed of 30 km/s offers 10 million years prior
to whatever disaster, and as other qualified folks have pegged our SOA
through the Milkyway galaxy at 14 km/s and of towards the central zone
at 10 km/s, this assessment offers our chance at roughly 20 to 30
million years prior to encountering some other sizable solar system or
stellar confrontation.

What I'm referencing is to the likelihood of a certain stellar gravity
influencing upon our solar system, and namely the relatively compact
stellar influence of Sirius/abc, being the heavy weight contender and
of illuminating like a mega UV growth lamp that it is, that surely
it's been most capable of influencing our way of life, and even of the
most likely or best reason for the skewed orbit of Pluto, especially
if our mutual influence was ever within 0.01 ly.

Since none other is within our path nor of nearly the mass and
illumination as Sirius/abc, Sirius seems our most likely candidate, or
perhaps that of our lead star that has been our guiding light ever
since creation. As the association of our solar system and that of
Sirius has been significantly different than the vast body of other
significant substances with the Milkyway galaxy, and it seems clear
enough that the two of us have been passing through rather than part
of this surrounding galaxy, which certainly could be a good sort of
thing.

As long as the vast majority of other stuff is moving and/or expanding
away from the two of us rather than closing in. In other words, giving
the likes of Sirius and our solar system a little more breathing room
than some of the observed collision events which have brought galaxies
together and thereby solar systems into lethal conflict with one
another. So, we can thank our lucky stars that at least the one and
only star of concern for our solar system having been Sirius is
apparently a win-win situation, as even if there's a cycle upon every
110,000 years, if Sirius routinely coming within 0.01 ly, it's
obviously not been a death sense, just highly illuminating and sort of
a defrosting mode of nature that'll provide more worth towards a
renewed cycle of life, more than of exterminating it.

As things observed between interacting galaxies seem to represent a
great deal of happenstance (chaos on steroids), rather than by design,
as surely no halfwit decent creator would intentionally allow
trillions of nice folks to being exterminated just for the
sport/benefit of entertaining our astronomy folks, and/or giving us
the sorts of Hubble hugging computer wallpaper as opposed to
stabilizing the given situation. Of course the observed mass
annihilations of colliding galaxies is rather clearly suggesting that
perhaps all is not so divine nor contrived for the benefit of
humanity, as surely there's other life NOT as we know it, that which
has got to have become better evolved than our pathetic DNA/RNA has
managed, as I'd hate having to ponder the notion that any one of our
Gods we humans have worshiped has actually been more Taliban like than
not, though obviously the Roman Catholic God was certainly capable of
surpassing all recorded levels of carnage for the mere sport of it
all, which clearly indicates that at least their God has been the sort
capable of imploding a couple of galaxies without remorse.

Of course, if there's somewhat older inhabitance of places associated
with the likes of Sirius/abc, and if that group were ever to come to
within 0.01 ly of our solar system, seems like chances are good enough
that of well intentioned terraforming would have taken place, as for
all the right reasons of perchance escaping the rather obvious
complexities of life anywhere within the Sirius group, as the testy
Sirius environment seems at least good enough reason for myself to
consider upon moving over to what's considerably more stable and
viable, such as trying out the threesome of Mars, Earth and Venus as
having but one relatively stable sun, and as of a whole offering no
impending collisions on the horizon. As it seems entirely rational, if
we had such capability, and were out and about our galaxy looking for
an improvement upon what our Earth has to offer, that surely wee too
would be impressed if there were to be another viable world that
needed a little help getting things started, or perchance was sort of
ready to go as is, as it would certainly be hard to pass up such an
oasis, especially of our option of ever returning home simply wasn't
all that viable, as it may have been the case with certain groups from
the chaos of Sirius/abc.

http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-sirius-trek.htm

Calling Venus;
If you're perchance interested in the hot prospect of achieving
interplanetary communications, as for that quest I've added lots into
this following page;
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-interplanetary.htm

BTW; There's still way more than a darn good chance of there being
other life of some sort existing on Venus:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm

Some good but difficult warlord readings: SADDAM HUSSEIN and The SAND
PIRATES
http://mittymax.com/Archive/0085-Sad...andPirates.htm

David Sereda (loads of honest ideas and notions upon UV energy), for
best impact on this one, you'll really need to barrow his video:
http://www.ufonasa.com

The latest round of insults to this Mars/Moon/Venus class action
injury:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-what-if.htm

Some other recent file updates:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/moon-04.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-gwb-moon.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-illumination.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-moon-02.htm

"Guth/IEIS~GASA"

Though I'd actually be rather surprised if there were any proof that
NASA wasn't a cloak on behalf of NSA/DoD agendas,

Whoa....extraordinarily lame syntax. You'd be surprised to find evidence
that NASA was working for NSA. Makes sense. Finding evidence that NASA is
not working for the NSA would be proving a negative, which is practically
impossible. All I know is that Eisenhower set up NASA as a civilian agency,
but as the old saying goes, they have some offices in the same buildings.
The workaday world as fodder for the insane.

after all, we'd
placed nearly all of our cold-war eggs into the Apollo basket, and
even though many things simply weren't going well, we punted. At the
time, if I were being continually lied to by our intelligence
agencies, and especially if I had such a warm and fuzzy sort of
president like GW Bush looking for absolutely any way possible of
picking a fight over energy, I would have done the very same thing.

How about saying something instead of double talk bull****?

BTW; I've been asked to define moral wrongness, as I have in the past,
it's still placed in relationship to what's been before our eyes for
decades, namely the willful exclusion of folks situated all around us
that could have used a little fresh water

You're an expert on losers.

Here's something that's worth while, about that supposed other planet
that somehow only Hubble can see, yet we've got absolutely nothing to
even look at.

I still believe we deserve a basic "look-see" for ourselves, even if
the original Hubble image needs to go though extensive photoshop.
Though if team Hubble can't even manage that, then perhaps they can
focus upon Venus or at least Sirius/abc. Of course I'm referring to
the nighttime side of Venus which shouldn't be all that bright, even
though it'll be getting itself a little too close for comfort, perhaps
too close for the optics of Hubble to even focus upon something that
so freaking large (just kidding).

Even though I seem to keep running smack into other fellow village
idiots that seem only to oppose other life itself, such as a fairly
recent village idiot moron that actually doesn't wish to consider the
available energies of Venus worth squat, much less the greater yet
energies available to whomever might have originated about the likes
of Sirius/abc. It's most interesting in how their skewed laws of
physics can be so pathetically conditional upon qualifying whatever
life on Mars as being just fine and dandy, if not otherwise remaining
outright bigoted against all other alternatives. I'll suppose they
even think it was a darn good thing that the Pope exterminated
Cathars.

Here's yet another instalment of what many consider absolutely
impossible.


Terraforming other planets via synchronized moon

Here's another bigger "what if" that's pertaining to the likes of
Sirius taking a fairly long shot at terraforming a few planets.

Lets just presume that the absolute closest Sirius ever gets itself is
the 0.01 ly, and that of the loop or orbit route offered them a
plausible near fly-by working timeline that's within this range/zone
of up to +/- 1 ly, down to the otherwise absolute minimal (0.01 ly)
distance, which then suggest an overall maximum range of Sirius travel
time being worth roughly 2 ly.

If sirius was trekking itself along their pathway at the rate of 80.5
km/s, I believe that offers 7450 Earth years worth of being within
this +/- 1 ly zone, though we might have to reconsider that their best
effort at to/from commuting was utilizing a 30,000 km/s (0.1 ly)
capability, thus a more reasonable window of opportunity falls down to
the capability of +/- 0.1 ly, or a Earthly timeline of 745 years worth
of encounter, which obviously doesn't give all that much room for
terraforming error, but none the less, for a sufficiently advanced
race, perhaps 745 years worth could have done the trick, unless
something goes terribly wrong.

Gee whiz; what could possibly go wrong, much less with doing three
entirely different planets at the same time?

One of those nagging if not pestering thoughts has always been; what
if we were those smart souls from Sirius, going about attempting our
hand at this sort of task, assuming that we mastered at least the rate
of traveling about at 30,000 km/s, thus being our maximum 0.1 ly
commute from Sirius (one-way) was at most going to take us roughly a
full year (give or take the 80.5 km/sec factor), and obviously lesser
time as our mutual junctions close in on the 0.01 ly differential.

In order to offer some reassurance of providing our teams with a
survivable outpost (pitstop) that wasn't directly associated with
either of the three planets that we had intended to terraform, it
seems like it would have been a damn good notion as to placing an
unusually stable moon about the central planet, though a moon having a
thermal nuclear core of energy reserves as to best accommodate our
terraforming teams. In this manner the three worlds of a given solar
system (such as this solar system) could have been safely tampered
with, and otherwise manipulated with the least possible contact and/or
contamination by our own kind, as well as for our teams having sort of
camped out on a reliable home away from home, that wasn't going to be
nearly as difficult for ourselves and items being delivered to in the
first place, and/or for subsequently extracting everything for the
eventual return flights back home. In other words, making a crew
change at least every 25 or so years becomes entirely doable, mostly
for our physiology benefits and of certain other needs that might be
in order, such as retirement, though some of the most dedicated folks
might pull a double shift, and/or later return for another 25 year
stint.

Keeping in mind, that most of the bulk substances sent from Sirius/abc
are not those having to be deposited onto the moon, but rather
established into orbit about the intended planet, whereas the
terraforming teams stationed onboard the moon would then go about
overseeing those package deliveries, as for perhaps directing their
final decent onto the surface, whereas whatever was released and/or
having to be transported about the globe for accomplish their intended
goal, this would then have been at the discretion of the team(s)
charged with such responsibilities.

As well accepted by our NASA and their loyal huggers, everyone seems
to be aware of and in reasonable consensus upon the initial
difficulties of just getting ourselves to another planet, even though
this task is entirely dwarfed by any further notions of having
whatever it takes as to getting ourselves back off that other planet,
at least with any dignity. In other words, not having to utilize a
body bag, like what's most likely going to happen upon Dr. Zubrin's
return from Mars.

Thus it seems by having yourself the benefits of delivering and/or
creating a sufficiently nearby and relatively low gravity outpost,
that's entirely stable, as well as the one and only having a
synchronized rotation, and actually performing as a rather unique
moon, that's providing an essential home sweet home remote platform
for all of your terraforming teams, is a rather grand solution if
there ever was. As then, only when and if it's absolutely necessary
for making a personal visitations onto the surface of Mars, Earth or
Venus, not only is your to/from commute travel time a snap but, you'll
never have to spend the night away from your underground lunar
laboratory and adjoining lunar abode. Therefore, if the environmental
conditions on your planet aren't right, and/or something you had
previously created for the planet was attempting to eat you, lo and
behold, you would just pack everything up and leave on your fleet
scout ship (offering perhaps 3,000 km/s), and that would be that.

Without any doubt, this is about as far outside the box as I've
managed to get myself, thus as such plots thicken as to how certain
terraforming sorts of things could have been done, it seems just a
plausible for this one to fly as not. Obviously I've left out numerous
details, and I haven't covered many issues that would seriously have
nailed our hides to the barn, at least with any respect to what's
currently accepted or even on the books for the future potential of
ways of doing such things, of which obviously isn't nearly sufficient
nowadays, nor will it likely become doable within the next few
decades. Thereby this avenue of terraforming remains for the likes of
folks a whole lot smarter than us.

Of course, not every well intended effort at terraforming is going to
work as planned, as variables and unknowns are going to impose some
degree of risk if not outright horrifying results. Although, if future
missions of longer range capable probes are continued, chances are
certainly better off than not for your terraforming workmanship to
survive, even though there may come a time when it's apparent that
only an entire "RESET" is going to save the day, and after all, the
creatures now living on those planets you terraformed were just petri
dish clones of something you felt was necessary, so there's obviously
little if anything to being lost if it should become necessary to wipe
the slate clean, and attempt to start over, as it certainly would be
cruel and immoral to intentionally shift the odds by give one of your
creation groups the technological and/or biological advantage over
another. I'm assuming that the "all knowing" God by which Sirius obeys
will NOT have been pleased if such terraforming runs itself too far
amuck, as I'm assuming that would be considered sacrilegious.

Perhaps we should try to realize that I'm not suggesting anything
"Star Wars", as more likely "Star Oops" if you'd honestly consider the
sorts of DNA/RNA running amuck that created the likes of GW Bush and
of a few dozen others. In fact, why even give these Sirius folks any
benefit of doubt, as they could be the mirror image of "dumb and
dumber", which might account for why Earth has been so screwed up in
the first place.


However, this could soon become the very foundation or eventual road
map of what our NASA and Halburton have been planning all along, with
the notions of either terraforming another world for our eventual
benefit, and/or simply pillaging and/or harvesting that planet's
resources for our immediate benefit, and perhaps regardless of
whatever the consequences. Obviously by the standards of what our
administrations have already accomplished and/or allowed far worse
things with entire disregard for those consequences, and "so what's
the difference", what's even better than our indiscriminate open-pit
mining of some other world?

Here's the latest deliveries upon what's new and of what's hot, as
offering a bit more context into what my three brain cells can deliver
on behalf of Sirius terraforming the likes of Mars, Earth and Venus.
*** http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-earth-venus.htm
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-sirius-trek.htm

Calling Venus;
If you're perchance more interested in the truly hot prospect of our
achieving interplanetary communications, as for that relatively simple
quest I've added lots, if not a little too much, into this following
page;
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-interplanetary.htm

Regards. Brad Guth / IEIS~GASA


"Kent Betts" wrote in message ...
"Guth/IEIS~GASA"

Though I'd actually be rather surprised if there were any proof that
NASA wasn't a cloak on behalf of NSA/DoD agendas,

Whoa....extraordinarily lame syntax. You'd be surprised to find evidence
that NASA was working for NSA. Makes sense. Finding evidence that NASA is
not working for the NSA would be proving a negative, which is practically
impossible. All I know is that Eisenhower set up NASA as a civilian agency,
but as the old saying goes, they have some offices in the same buildings.
The workaday world as fodder for the insane.

after all, we'd
placed nearly all of our cold-war eggs into the Apollo basket, and
even though many things simply weren't going well, we punted. At the
time, if I were being continually lied to by our intelligence
agencies, and especially if I had such a warm and fuzzy sort of
president like GW Bush looking for absolutely any way possible of
picking a fight over energy, I would have done the very same thing.

How about saying something instead of double talk bull****?

BTW; I've been asked to define moral wrongness, as I have in the past,
it's still placed in relationship to what's been before our eyes for
decades, namely the willful exclusion of folks situated all around us
that could have used a little fresh water

You're an expert on losers.