The Administrations proposed FY 2008 Science and Space Budget.

Here is a link to the White House's Office of Management and Budget FY
2008 spending on Science and Space.
tom

http://www.whitehouse.gov/OMB/pdf/space-2008.pdf

"SCIENCE & SPACE
The President's Vision for Space Exploration:
The President's 2008 Budget will continue America's commitment to gain
a deeper
understanding of space and the sciences through:
· The President's Vision for Space Exploration;
· Continued leadership in space, science and aeronautics;
· Accelerating scientific progress with the American Competitiveness
Initiative;
· Enhancing the ability to observe, protect, and manage Earth's
resources; and
· The Advanced Energy Initiative (AEI).
· $951 million for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
(NASA) to design and develop Orion - a crewed spacecraft that will
return humans to the Moon.
Orion will replace the Space Shuttle, which will be retired in 2010
after completing
construction of the Space Station.
· $1.2 billion for NASA to develop a new rocket that will launch
Orion, the Ares I.
The Ares I will require less launch preparation than the Space
Shuttle, generating savings in operating costs.
· $436 million over three years in award money for developers who
build privately operated space vehicles that would re-supply the
International Space Station.
· $352 million over five years to maximize scientific gain from
robotic exploration of the Moon.
· $345 million to develop the Mars Science Laboratory, scheduled to
launch in 2009, to increase our knowledge of the Martian environment
and test technologies that may assist human exploration.

Continued leadership in space, science and aeronautics:
· $1.6 billion for NASA to conduct astronomy research, upgrade the
Hubble telescope, and build new
space telescopes to be named for 17th century astronomer Johannes
Kepler and former NASA
Administrator James E. Webb.
· $804 million over five years for NASA to develop and launch no later
than 2013 the Global
Precipitation Measurement satellite system, along with interagency and
international partners, to
better understand rainfall and improve our ability to track major
weather events.
· $396 million over five years to support long-term aeronautics
research at university and industry labs."

When the robots get to the moon, and everyone looks again
at all the 'magnificent desolation', will anyone still want
to send people there?

I don't think so.





"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
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Here is a link to the White House's Office of Management and Budget FY
2008 spending on Science and Space.
tom

http://www.whitehouse.gov/OMB/pdf/space-2008.pdf

"SCIENCE & SPACE
The President's Vision for Space Exploration:
The President's 2008 Budget will continue America's commitment to gain
a deeper
understanding of space and the sciences through:
· The President's Vision for Space Exploration;
· Continued leadership in space, science and aeronautics;
· Accelerating scientific progress with the American Competitiveness
Initiative;
· Enhancing the ability to observe, protect, and manage Earth's
resources; and
· The Advanced Energy Initiative (AEI).
· $951 million for the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
(NASA) to design and develop Orion - a crewed spacecraft that will
return humans to the Moon.
Orion will replace the Space Shuttle, which will be retired in 2010
after completing
construction of the Space Station.
· $1.2 billion for NASA to develop a new rocket that will launch
Orion, the Ares I.
The Ares I will require less launch preparation than the Space
Shuttle, generating savings in operating costs.
· $436 million over three years in award money for developers who
build privately operated space vehicles that would re-supply the
International Space Station.
· $352 million over five years to maximize scientific gain from
robotic exploration of the Moon.
· $345 million to develop the Mars Science Laboratory, scheduled to
launch in 2009, to increase our knowledge of the Martian environment
and test technologies that may assist human exploration.

Continued leadership in space, science and aeronautics:
· $1.6 billion for NASA to conduct astronomy research, upgrade the
Hubble telescope, and build new
space telescopes to be named for 17th century astronomer Johannes
Kepler and former NASA
Administrator James E. Webb.
· $804 million over five years for NASA to develop and launch no later
than 2013 the Global
Precipitation Measurement satellite system, along with interagency and
international partners, to
better understand rainfall and improve our ability to track major
weather events.
· $396 million over five years to support long-term aeronautics
research at university and industry labs."

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"Jonathan" wrote:

When the robots get to the moon, and everyone looks again
at all the 'magnificent desolation', will anyone still want
to send people there?

Of course.

I don't think so.

Then you're very, very mistaken. The Moon is the gateway to the stars.
(Well, more of a critical resource cache, but that doesn't have quite
the same ring to it.)

Best,
- Joe

"Joe Strout" wrote in message


Then you're very, very mistaken. The Moon is the gateway to the stars.
(Well, more of a critical resource cache, but that doesn't have quite
the same ring to it.)

I totally agree, and then some.

Speaking about such a nifty gateway that's currently keeping us all a
little extra warm and fuzzy; What do you think about relocating our
moon to Earth's L1?
-
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Not only is there "Not a Word about Manned Moon mission!", there's not
even 10% of any realistic budget they'll need for sustaining what they
currently have on their agenda, much less going for our moon.

Old Testament thumping or not, our mostly Jewish Third Reich formulated
NASA is going down for the count, especially if any more of those
mutually perpetrated cold-war lids keep popping off.
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"Jonathan" wrote in message


When the robots get to the moon, and everyone looks again
at all the 'magnificent desolation', will anyone still want
to send people there?

I don't think so.

Without a dollar in the wussy NASA budget to spare is why I totally
agree, especially since we haven't evolved or otherwise been
intelligently designed with sufficiently rad-hard DNA.

However, have I got L1 shade for you:

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...=smart&p=1/360

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...25b2f50bea63b9
In addition to establishing a great deal of shade (perhaps a touch more
than necessary), we'd also have established the absolute ideal TRACE
outpost, as well as keeping the Chinese or possibly Russian LSE-CM/ISS
as 100% viable to boot (actually far better yet because of the moon's L1
becoming so nicely shaded).

What's so terribly wrong, or even all that technically insurmountable
with my notions of relocating our nasty old salty and global warming
moon, all the way out to Earth L1?

Utilizing the tethered mass at 2X L2 seems like a perfectly good
alternative to using millions of spendy rockets (that we obviously don't
have or couldn't actually apply) or whatever nuclear produced delta-v,
especially since most every required tonne and of the tether itself
would be extracted from the moon itself.

Where's all of your warm and fuzzy Usenet yaysay and of whatever
wizardly applied expertise of eye popping candy, and otherwise on behalf
of knocking our socks off, especially when our badly failing environment
and extremely frail DNA needs such efforts the most?

What's all that negative or otherwise naysay about relocating our moon,
for obtaining such absolute spare loads of ice age rebuilding shade, and
of so much more to come?

Since we're into losing our DNA/RNA protective magnetosphere, at the
ongoing demise of 0.05%/year, as such, what other long-term options for
protecting Earth's atmosphere and of our sequestered butts on this badly
polluted surface do we have?
-
Brad Guth


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