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Old August 1st 06, 12:14 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Jim Oberg[_1_]
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??

News descriptions speak of a wide, deep crater
where the intact Dnepr booster, half its fuel still
on board, hit the ground. A shepard nearby, who
witnessed it, has been interviewed from his
hospital bed.

But where are the photographs? Has anything
been published anywhere showing the hole in
the desert? Or is Soviet-era coverup back
in effect, a la Panarin?

Jim


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Old August 1st 06, 12:40 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Thomas Lee Elifritz
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??

Jim Oberg wrote:

News descriptions speak of a wide, deep crater
where the intact Dnepr booster, half its fuel still
on board, hit the ground. A shepard nearby, who
witnessed it, has been interviewed from his
hospital bed.

But where are the photographs? Has anything
been published anywhere showing the hole in
the desert? Or is Soviet-era coverup back
in effect, a la Panarin?


The photographers died, Jim, get over it.

http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Old August 1st 06, 01:40 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
...
News descriptions speak of a wide, deep crater
where the intact Dnepr booster, half its fuel still
on board, hit the ground. A shepard nearby, who
witnessed it, has been interviewed from his
hospital bed.

But where are the photographs? Has anything
been published anywhere showing the hole in
the desert? Or is Soviet-era coverup back
in effect, a la Panarin?

Jim



For those of us out of the loop, can you give us the general story - Russian
rocket blew up, I understand that much, but not much more. I assume it was
unmanned otherwise there would be more press about it.

JD


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Old August 1st 06, 02:10 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
Thomas Lee Elifritz
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??

Joe Delphi wrote:

For those of us out of the loop, can you give us the general story - Russian
rocket blew up, I understand that much, but not much more. I assume it was
unmanned otherwise there would be more press about it.


Bad rocket. Down boy.

Aw ****, now we've got to clean up a mess.

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Old August 1st 06, 03:39 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
jonathan
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??


"Jim Oberg" wrote in message
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News descriptions speak of a wide, deep crater
where the intact Dnepr booster, half its fuel still
on board, hit the ground. A shepard nearby, who
witnessed it, has been interviewed from his
hospital bed.

But where are the photographs? Has anything
been published anywhere showing the hole in
the desert? Or is Soviet-era coverup back
in effect, a la Panarin?



Did it crash in Kazakhstan? That's a country that
mimics the old soviet union more then any other.

chief of state: President Nursultan A. NAZARBAYEV
(chairman of the Supreme Soviet from 22 February
1990, elected president 1 December 1991)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/kz.html



I found this article, but nothing much more.
http://www.geocities.com/launchreport/slr.html



Jim



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Old August 1st 06, 04:23 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??

"jonathan" writes:

Did it crash in Kazakhstan? That's a country that
mimics the old soviet union more then any other.

chief of state: President Nursultan A. NAZARBAYEV
(chairman of the Supreme Soviet from 22 February
1990, elected president 1 December 1991)
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/kz.html


Yes, it did crash in Kazakhstan. And not to hold Kazakhstan forward as
a model of openness, but I think there are other FSU republics that are
more SU-like than it is (Belarus and Kyrgyzstan come immediately to
mind).
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Old August 1st 06, 09:48 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??



Jim Oberg wrote:

News descriptions speak of a wide, deep crater
where the intact Dnepr booster, half its fuel still
on board, hit the ground. A shepard nearby, who
witnessed it, has been interviewed from his
hospital bed.

But where are the photographs? Has anything
been published anywhere showing the hole in
the desert? Or is Soviet-era coverup back
in effect, a la Panarin?



You wouldn't have read this in The Moscow News back in the Soviet era:
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/07/30/rocket.shtml
Here's an interesting photo of another Dnepr failing at lift-off (or
cold launch in this case) :
http://www.sploid.com/images/dneprygoodness.gif

Pat

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Old August 1st 06, 09:54 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Chris Jones wrote:

Yes, it did crash in Kazakhstan. And not to hold Kazakhstan forward as
a model of openness, but I think there are other FSU republics that are
more SU-like than it is (Belarus and Kyrgyzstan come immediately to
mind).



And Kazakhstan is ****ed:
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2006/08/...tsbanned.shtml

Pat
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Old August 1st 06, 02:11 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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"Pat Flannery" wrote i=
Here's an interesting photo of another Dnepr failing at lift-off (or cold
launch in this case) :
http://www.sploid.com/images/dneprygoodness.gif


Pat, the picture can't be 'real' -- the launch tube adaptors,
the pieces falling off to the side, come off as soon as it pops
and ignites, and it's still vertical at that point, there isn't time to
tilt over.

I sent this email -- we'll see if we ever get a response:



Just to confirm -- the tilting Dnepr rocket
at
http://www.sploid.com/images/dneprygoodness.gif
is a cropped normal launch, made to look like it's going
off course, right? I don't want my news clients getting all
too excited as if it were a real image of a real event.

Jim O
www.jamesoberg.com
NBC News space guy


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Old August 1st 06, 02:30 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.space.history
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Default Russian news blackout on Dnepr Crater photographs??


Jim Oberg wrote:
"Pat Flannery" wrote i=
Here's an interesting photo of another Dnepr failing at lift-off (or cold
launch in this case) :
http://www.sploid.com/images/dneprygoodness.gif


Pat, the picture can't be 'real' -- the launch tube adaptors,
the pieces falling off to the side, come off as soon as it pops
and ignites, and it's still vertical at that point, there isn't time to
tilt over.

I sent this email -- we'll see if we ever get a response:



Just to confirm -- the tilting Dnepr rocket
at
http://www.sploid.com/images/dneprygoodness.gif
is a cropped normal launch, made to look like it's going
off course, right? I don't want my news clients getting all
too excited as if it were a real image of a real event.

Jim O
www.jamesoberg.com
NBC News space guy


It is fake. The original is on this page.
"http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/world/russia/vks.htm"

- Ed Kyle

 




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