ETs arrive, cloaked as red rain

tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.



tomcat


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Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.





Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!


tomcat

tomcat wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.





Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

100% bull****. I stand by my ealier statement.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!

You forgot uneducated rubes yapping about things they don't understand
on usenet.


tomcat


--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

"tomcat" wrote:

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

If I'm reading the NASA documents correctly, the acrylic coating was
only used in the ground mockup of the LM. In the actual spacecraft, the
astronauts' space suits were sufficient to block the radiation.

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.





Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

100% bull****. I stand by my ealier statement.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!

You forgot uneducated rubes yapping about things they don't understand
on usenet.




All it takes, Art, is one counter example to smash your little glass
BOX to pieces.

Here it is:

IBM and Georgia Tech has just announced that germanium doped silicon
chips have been pushed to 350 Ghz at room temperature, 500 Ghz at near
absolute zero. Current theories don't explain this phenomena. But,
based on measurements taken during the experiment, it is believed that
750 Ghz chip speeds at room temperature are possible as well as 1 Thz
speeds at near absolute zero.


tomcat

tomcat wrote:
Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.





Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

100% bull****. I stand by my ealier statement.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!

You forgot uneducated rubes yapping about things they don't understand
on usenet.




All it takes, Art, is one counter example to smash your little glass
BOX to pieces.

Here it is:

IBM and Georgia Tech has just announced that germanium doped silicon
chips have been pushed to 350 Ghz at room temperature, 500 Ghz at near
absolute zero. Current theories don't explain this phenomena. But,
based on measurements taken during the experiment, it is believed that
750 Ghz chip speeds at room temperature are possible as well as 1 Thz
speeds at near absolute zero.


tomcat


P.S. See: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pr...ease/19843.wss



tomcat

On 2 Jul 2006 19:37:01 -0700, "tomcat" wrote:


Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Art Deco wrote:
tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
tomcat wrote:
I do get "unsubstantiated feeling(s)" from time to time. Those
'feelings' served me well on military missions when I came back, while
others didn't. They are a little like the 'feelings' that Jedi Knights
are rumored to have. You have to 'feel' the force. Be 'one' with the
force. Become the force.

That and blast the hell out of the enemy when you 'feel' it is the
thing to do.

Again, however, the LM panels used paint containing promethium.
Promethium-147, having a half-life of only 2 1/2 years, is highly
radioactive. Unshielded at close range, the beta particles are
significant. With even minor shielding -- aluminized fabric or a thin
layer of clear acrylic -- they are not.

Thank for the info. But I am still suspicious that this 'radio
luminescene' has something to do with stopping radiation too. Why
gigantic panels when a couple of small ones would do just as well?

Since you have absolutely no honest intentions nor expertise to offer
as to anything that's topic constructive, in which case why don't you
go play with your prototype spaceplane?

Such prototypes are actually not only as small as you'd like, and thus
humanly manageable, but very doable as offering proof of their
potential capability in full scale.

Besides fully interactive 3D software that can accomplish damn near
anything, it's rather simple as to keeping your prototype GLOW down to
a dull roar in order to suit whatever the demonstration, by way of
simply limiting fuel loads and excluding payloads.

How about doing a 1/100 scale static prototype version for wind-tunnel
testing?
How about your doing a 1/10 scale flyable prototype, with 'tomcat' at
the controls?
-
Brad Guth




Wasn't 13 rads per hour about what you said Astronauts would have to
deal with in Outer Space? Strange the two figures match. I wonder if
maybe Promethium changes hard radiation into soft radiation?

Quite a trick if they can do it.

I see your level of understanding of radiation physics matches Brad's
quite closely.





Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

100% bull****. I stand by my ealier statement.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!

You forgot uneducated rubes yapping about things they don't understand
on usenet.




All it takes, Art, is one counter example to smash your little glass
BOX to pieces.

Here it is:

IBM and Georgia Tech has just announced that germanium doped silicon
chips have been pushed to 350 Ghz at room temperature, 500 Ghz at near
absolute zero. Current theories don't explain this phenomena. But,
based on measurements taken during the experiment, it is believed that
750 Ghz chip speeds at room temperature are possible as well as 1 Thz
speeds at near absolute zero.


tomcat

pardon me, but how does incremental speed increases in silicon wafers
show that art deco is a fool? just because the theory isnt there to
back up observation doesnt mean a thing. stick-it notes was an
accident. harnessing lightning was an accident. so whats your point,
cluetard? that art isnt the god of fortune telling? who ever claimed
he was??

christ almighty. you stick your neck out for people to see and you
get cockroaches comeing out of the cracks.

--
Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think he went
into this cheap motel room."
-Dave Hillstrom

Brad Guth wrote:

tomcat wrote:
Fact: NASA did something to stop radiation. The does the Astronauts
received on their Moon Missions were well within tolerable limits.

Fact: To put a man on the Moon by the end of the 60's was a top
national priority. Classified capability may have been used.

Fact: 13 rads per hour of 'radio luminescent paint' is a little on the
heavy side.

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

Sometimes scientists find things that work that don't come with BOX
theories backing them up. But if they work, then they work!
Fact: some folks are so absolutely snookered and summarily dumbfounded
that they believed in WMD and in anything else coming from the LLPOF
infomercial butt-cheeks of the one they love, while others having
managed to get their partners in crimes against humanity at the time to
put one of their own jewboys on a stick. And once again, here's our
warm and fuzzy 'tomcat' proving that I'm right as rain.

You also claim you only ask questions, Brad. Can't keep your
kookgobble straight?

As per the Usenet status quo that continually sucks and blows as usual,
I see absolutely nothing but MOS wag-thy-dogs to death as Usenet static
and otherwise lots of their racist flak along along with butt-loads of
your bigoted flatulence to boot, as what seems as though representing
their one and only last ditch option before the good ship LOLLIPOP
sinks into their own brown-nosed muck.

Gee whiz, folks, I can't but wonder what exactly is their
insurmountable problem is this time around.

This time it must have been something that I and one of my nifty lose
cannon inadvertently said, that was true!

As I've said before, that since I normally don't intentionally post my
topics into the likes of "alt.astronomy", or much of whatever's
alt.anything other because, it usually represents such an incest
infested cesspool of the absolute worse possible *******s (aka Third
Reich collaborators) on Earth, thereby representing a total waste of
one's time and resources. Therefore, I'm apparently missing out on all
the good and tasty brown-nose stuff and topic/author incest ****ology
that makes the Art Deco day so much worth living for, just like the

*ding*

good old days when they got their Roman partners in crimes against
humanity (similar to their present day GW Bush born-again puppet) in
order to put one of their own jewboys on a stick.

If they'll do that much to one of their own kind, what else if anything
will they not do for a buck?

There is no froth like Guth-froth. Accept no substitutes!
-
Brad Guth


--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

Brad Guth wrote:

Alan Anderson wrote:
"tomcat" wrote:

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

If I'm reading the NASA documents correctly, the acrylic coating was
only used in the ground mockup of the LM. In the actual spacecraft, the
astronauts' space suits were sufficient to block the radiation.
You're talking about something less than soft-X-ray, as in more like
UV-c, UV-b or even UV-a which by the way can also be utilized in order
to cerate secondary/recoil photons that are visible. So what's the big
deal?

It is obvious by your nonsense reply that you either did not read his
reply, or you are unable to read, Brad.

Otherwise, there's no damn converting going on, just the creation of
secondary/recoil photons that might amount to as little as the square
root of the primary radiation count. A million counts of UV-a creating
1000 counts of near-blue photons seems doable.

That's not hardly the same thing as managing to survive hard-X-rays and
gamma, now is it?

What is the difference between "hard-X-rays" and "gamma", oh great
radiation physicist?
-
Brad Guth


--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development

tomcat wrote:

Brad Guth wrote:
Alan Anderson wrote:
"tomcat" wrote:

Possible explanation: The 'radio luminescent paint' may have converted
the hard Outer Space radiation into soft 'radio luminescent paint'
radiation, then blocked with acrylic.

If I'm reading the NASA documents correctly, the acrylic coating was
only used in the ground mockup of the LM. In the actual spacecraft, the
astronauts' space suits were sufficient to block the radiation.
You're talking about something less than soft-X-ray, as in more like
UV-c, UV-b or even UV-a which by the way can also be utilized in order
to cerate secondary/recoil photons that are visible. So what's the big
deal?

Otherwise, there's no damn converting going on, just the creation of
secondary/recoil photons that might amount to as little as the square
root of the primary radiation count. A million counts of UV-a creating
1000 counts of near-blue photons seems doable.

That's not hardly the same thing as managing to survive hard-X-rays and
gamma, now is it?
-
Brad Guth




For the Astronauts to have had such low dosage rates indicates that
their shielding was excellent. But I have had the most difficult time
attempting to find out just what shielding was used. It is hard to
believe that it may be just the aluminum skin of the modules.

Shielding from what? Gamma rays? Protons? Electrons? Cosmic rays?
Infrared? ELF? The Beach Boys on AM radio?

--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth

"And without accurate measuring techniques, how can they even
*call* quantum theory a "scientific" one? How can it possibly
be referred to as a "fundamental branch of physics"?"
-- Painsnuh the Lamer

"Well, orientals moved to the U.S. and did amazingly well on
their own, and the races are related (brown)."
-- "Honest" John pontificates on racial purity

"Significant new ideas have rarely come from the ranks of
the establishment."
-- Double-A on technology development