TRUE physical

$$ TRUE physical
$$
$$ GUESS iSS General UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM, enthalpy:
$$
$$ |(m1*v1)^2 G*M1*m1 m1*v1^2|
$$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = |--------- + ---------- + -------|
$$ | 2*M1 (n - 1)*rA 2 |
$$
$$ " " " = | eK + eG - eV |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + REST energy eM |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + m*c^2 |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Van der Waals) = |P*(Vol - b) + {(---)*(1 - ---)} |
$$ | Vol Vol |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Dieterici) = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + {(----)*(1 - ----)}|
$$ | y*Vc y*Vc |
$$
$$ | a a*b |
$$ " " " Dieterici's.. = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + ---- - --------|
$$ | y*Vc (y*Vc)^2|
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*g*rA + -------|
$$ | 2 |
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*v1^2 + -------|
$$ | 2 |.
$$
$$ GUESS iSS Volt*Amp*sec energy eV is otherwise, - (m1*v1^2 / 2).
$$
Dieterici's CRiTiCAL constants. .
Gibb's free energy eG.|| Pc*Vc | | Ra |
ANY flux formula. ||----------| = |--------| = 0.30472135.
Bernoulli's Law. ||("e")^2*Tc| |10*("e")|
TRUE physical. |Note: MOLAR CONSTANT Ra=Na*k=no*vm*k.,.

"brian a m stuckless" wrote in message
...
$$ TRUE physical




What would be your reaction to finding those that still believe
the earth is flat?

The either/or certainty of science and religion in truth define
equal and opposite extremes of ignorance concerning
the true nature of our reality.

Reality is defined by neither/both uncertainty such as that found
in the dual nature of light, or in a cloud. Where opposite extremes
are entractably entangled and cannot be mapped.
Where things tremble. That is unless the whole is destroyed
into one or the other. Into the simple components of reality.

But the big joke on 'modern' science is that reality is not
defined by its components, or the simplest the universe
has to offer. The true nature of reality is displayed best
by the highest level of complexity.

Which is where the opposite extremes exist at a persistent
phase transition ....between...each other. Where you can't tell
if it's a particle or wave, water or air, instinct or intelligence.
Science or religion.

Whether in light, a cloud or an emotion, this neither/both
uncertainty is the source of all order in the universe.

Is life defined by genetics or mutation? Or is it natural selection
where both/neither dominate, but combine to produce
self organizing order? This emergent order is a result of
the total weight of a nearly infinite sequence of random
unknowable events.

Yet you seem to think that an idea can be understood
by a detailed look at each and every neuron ever
fired in our minds. Just as you think reality can
be understood by looking at what things do in
ever greater detail.

Emergent order such as light, an emotion or a galaxy
are born from this systemic uncertainty. The one place
your equations or religions cannot see through is
the source of all order in the universe and our
reality.

And the more refined, detailed or specialized your
component either/or...good/evil methods become, the
more complete is your inability to find the simplicity
of our existence. The greater is your ignorance of
reality.

Increasing order, creation and life emerge where the
opposite extremes are united.

Destruction and ignorance emerge when the opposite
extremes are kept apart.

Your certain sciences and religions define only death.
Life and reality are defined at the edge, where
opposites meet and tremble unknowably.
As lovers do.



Jonathan

s











$$
$$ GUESS iSS General UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM, enthalpy:
$$
$$ |(m1*v1)^2 G*M1*m1 m1*v1^2|
$$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = |--------- + ---------- + -------|
$$ | 2*M1 (n - 1)*rA 2 |
$$
$$ " " " = | eK + eG - eV |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + REST energy eM |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + m*c^2 |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Van der Waals) = |P*(Vol - b) + {(---)*(1 - ---)} |
$$ | Vol Vol |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Dieterici) = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + {(----)*(1 - ----)}|
$$ | y*Vc y*Vc |
$$
$$ | a a*b |
$$ " " " Dieterici's.. = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + ---- - --------|
$$ | y*Vc (y*Vc)^2|
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*g*rA + -------|
$$ | 2 |
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*v1^2 + -------|
$$ | 2 |.
$$
$$ GUESS iSS Volt*Amp*sec energy eV is otherwise, - (m1*v1^2 / 2).
$$
Dieterici's CRiTiCAL constants. .
Gibb's free energy eG.|| Pc*Vc | | Ra |
ANY flux formula. ||----------| = |--------| = 0.30472135.
Bernoulli's Law. ||("e")^2*Tc| |10*("e")|
TRUE physical. |Note: MOLAR CONSTANT Ra=Na*k=no*vm*k.,.

The faithful witness to truth is likened unto a well in which
hope springs eternal - positive law coincides with justification
by faith, and not simply by additional work forced on the
believer! Yet one would believe that Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless
has found a niche for expounding what he believes (in his artful
conception) the rules of behavior governing particles and waves,
their interactions, symmetry, and of course, equations. So why
is it, that mankind is unable to tap the vast resources of this
intellectual capital? This idea warrants further investigation.

Those who are practiced in the art of positive law are able to
achieve widespread communication of their plans and intentions.
The only thing preventing a believer from attaining his highest
achievement are the "chains" which bind the intellectual prowess
from being exercised at the right time and place. The "chains"
are the cunning of the weak and tame minds, which have the
power to resist the energy of the strong. They are imprisonments
of the creative imagination with fable or fiction, unable to
matriculate to the higher ground of application, unless some
important aspiration can be learned amidst the "youthful vigor",
in the attempt at orchestrating a one-person show, which must
face the lyrics of cross-correlated technological serpentry,
without impughning the free will of the participant or observer.

Government has been infected with the delusion of "what is
freedom" when the freedom itself has become liberalism. This
infection has spread to the moderates, who, acting in accordance
with the wishes of the "mob" of masses by widening the gulf between
its liberal and conservative constituents, by virtue of its
non-manipulation of the influx of illegal aliens, while at the
same time never being able to set a course for marginalizing the
huge monopolization that the energy industries have, as well as
the Federal Reserve, who have never once even attempted to back
the dollar with the gold standard. They all are as stuffed sentries
with no authority whatsoever, and they are rejected as lame
messengers of the promise!

Thus the loosened grip of government is immediately, by positive
law, caught up and empowered through new constitutional convention,
because the bureaucrats who stood idly by cannot for one single day
exist without mentorship, and the new authority abolishes the old
already malframed and diluted by moderates and liberalism.

Manipulation of the masses is for sociopaths. brian_am_stuckless
is not a manipulator of anyone. His dialecticisms are framed in
the highest artform available to engineers - mathematics. One
would tend to believe that there is a message behind using the
dollar signs at the borders of his reports - I can see that today
there is a tremendous ruse being played on the American people -
liberalism and dialectical moderation to the extreme. Yet the
ruses of the blind can in no way dilute the potency of the wise.
Political shadiness are for those who can't withstand the light
of truth. Only the knowingly-ignorant will perish of their own
accord. The free will of the force of faithful intuition can never
be resisted. Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless is a simple example of the
force of faithful intuition. How much he is right, I am not sure.
But I can say one thing: the "proud" will succumb to the applica-
tions of the wise, and will be banished from advancing the
applications and benefits of harmonious science!

"brian a m stuckless" wrote in message
...
$$ TRUE physical




What would be your reaction to finding those that still believe
the earth is flat?

The either/or certainty of science and religion in truth define
equal and opposite extremes of ignorance concerning
the true nature of our reality.

Reality is defined by neither/both uncertainty such as that found
in the dual nature of light, or in a cloud. Where opposite extremes
are entractably entangled and cannot be mapped.
Where things tremble. That is unless the whole is destroyed
into one or the other. Into the simple components of reality.

But the big joke on 'modern' science is that reality is not
defined by its components, or the simplest the universe
has to offer. The true nature of reality is displayed best
by the highest level of complexity.

Which is where the opposite extremes exist at a persistent
phase transition ....between...each other. Where you can't tell
if it's a particle or wave, water or air, instinct or intelligence.
Science or religion.

Whether in light, a cloud or an emotion, this neither/both
uncertainty is the source of all order in the universe.

Is life defined by genetics or mutation? Or is it natural selection
where both/neither dominate, but combine to produce
self organizing order? This emergent order is a result of
the total weight of a nearly infinite sequence of random
unknowable events.

Yet you seem to think that an idea can be understood
by a detailed look at each and every neuron ever
fired in our minds. Just as you think reality can
be understood by looking at what things do in
ever greater detail.

Emergent order such as light, an emotion or a galaxy
are born from this systemic uncertainty. The one place
your equations or religions cannot see through is
the source of all order in the universe and our
reality.

And the more refined, detailed or specialized your
component either/or...good/evil methods become, the
more complete is your inability to find the simplicity
of our existence. The greater is your ignorance of
reality.

Increasing order, creation and life emerge where the
opposite extremes are united.

Destruction and ignorance emerge when the opposite
extremes are kept apart.

Your certain sciences and religions define only death.
Life and reality are defined at the edge, where
opposites meet and tremble unknowably.
As lovers do.



Jonathan

s











$$
$$ GUESS iSS General UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM, enthalpy:
$$
$$ |(m1*v1)^2 G*M1*m1 m1*v1^2|
$$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = |--------- + ---------- + -------|
$$ | 2*M1 (n - 1)*rA 2 |
$$
$$ " " " = | eK + eG - eV |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + REST energy eM |
$$
$$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + m*c^2 |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Van der Waals) = |P*(Vol - b) + {(---)*(1 - ---)} |
$$ | Vol Vol |
$$
$$ | a b |
$$ """ (Dieterici) = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + {(----)*(1 - ----)}|
$$ | y*Vc y*Vc |
$$
$$ | a a*b |
$$ " " " Dieterici's.. = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + ---- - --------|
$$ | y*Vc (y*Vc)^2|
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*g*rA + -------|
$$ | 2 |
$$
$$ | m1*v1^2|
$$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*v1^2 + -------|
$$ | 2 |.
$$
$$ GUESS iSS Volt*Amp*sec energy eV is otherwise, - (m1*v1^2 / 2).
$$
Dieterici's CRiTiCAL constants. .
Gibb's free energy eG.|| Pc*Vc | | Ra |
ANY flux formula. ||----------| = |--------| = 0.30472135.
Bernoulli's Law. ||("e")^2*Tc| |10*("e")|
TRUE physical. |Note: MOLAR CONSTANT Ra=Na*k=no*vm*k.,.

jonathan wrote:

Yet you seem to think that an idea can be understood
by a detailed look at each and every neuron ever
fired in our minds. Just as you think reality can
be understood by looking at what things do in
ever greater detail.

The neurons are part of the brain. No one has ever seen or detect a mind
in a body he does not own.

Ah! A small quibble. No matter. Never mind.

Bob Kolker

Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B ) wrote:
: The faithful witness to truth is likened unto a well in which
: hope springs eternal - positive law coincides with justification
: by faith, and not simply by additional work forced on the
: believer! Yet one would believe that Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless
: has found a niche for expounding what he believes (in his artful
: conception) the rules of behavior governing particles and waves,
: their interactions, symmetry, and of course, equations. So why
: is it, that mankind is unable to tap the vast resources of this
: intellectual capital? This idea warrants further investigation.

It is the difference between an arhictect and someone that actually builds
the buildings.

: Those who are practiced in the art of positive law are able to
: achieve widespread communication of their plans and intentions.
: The only thing preventing a believer from attaining his highest
: achievement are the "chains" which bind the intellectual prowess
: from being exercised at the right time and place. The "chains"
: are the cunning of the weak and tame minds, which have the
: power to resist the energy of the strong. They are imprisonments
: of the creative imagination with fable or fiction, unable to
: matriculate to the higher ground of application, unless some
: important aspiration can be learned amidst the "youthful vigor",
: in the attempt at orchestrating a one-person show, which must
: face the lyrics of cross-correlated technological serpentry,
: without impughning the free will of the participant or observer.

All that said, this lacks in the area of being pragmatic. Einstein's work
was able to be proven and used (beinging to) in a pragmatic sense.

: Government has been infected with the delusion of "what is
: freedom" when the freedom itself has become liberalism. This
: infection has spread to the moderates, who, acting in accordance
: with the wishes of the "mob" of masses by widening the gulf between
: its liberal and conservative constituents, by virtue of its
: non-manipulation of the influx of illegal aliens, while at the
: same time never being able to set a course for marginalizing the
: huge monopolization that the energy industries have, as well as
: the Federal Reserve, who have never once even attempted to back
: the dollar with the gold standard. They all are as stuffed sentries
: with no authority whatsoever, and they are rejected as lame
: messengers of the promise!

Try to stop paying your taxes and see what happens.

: Thus the loosened grip of government is immediately, by positive
: law, caught up and empowered through new constitutional convention,
: because the bureaucrats who stood idly by cannot for one single day
: exist without mentorship, and the new authority abolishes the old
: already malframed and diluted by moderates and liberalism.

So more conservatism is the answer? No balance, just more power on the
right? If you actually believe that, then you're a dupe.

: Manipulation of the masses is for sociopaths. brian_am_stuckless
: is not a manipulator of anyone. His dialecticisms are framed in
: the highest artform available to engineers - mathematics. One
: would tend to believe that there is a message behind using the
: dollar signs at the borders of his reports - I can see that today
: there is a tremendous ruse being played on the American people -
: liberalism and dialectical moderation to the extreme. Yet the
: ruses of the blind can in no way dilute the potency of the wise.

If you think that the Power Elite is a bunch of liberals, then you are
mistaken. "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", by Gary Allen for all it was
worth made the exact same mistake. You cannot have a Power Elite exist
within the context of them being all liberal or all conservative, as they
certainly occupy all parts of the political spectrum. Currently, I
believe that the majority of the Power Elite are mostly conservative,
virtually opposite of what you are stating. The fact that write off
moderates with liberals means you have an agenda. Period!

: Political shadiness are for those who can't withstand the light
: of truth. Only the knowingly-ignorant will perish of their own
: accord. The free will of the force of faithful intuition can never
: be resisted. Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless is a simple example of the
: force of faithful intuition. How much he is right, I am not sure.
: But I can say one thing: the "proud" will succumb to the applica-
: tions of the wise, and will be banished from advancing the
: applications and benefits of harmonious science!

I'v read his posts and never concluded anything political from them. Now
you come along and throw a politcal bent on them. Exactly what IS your
agenda? Care to share?

Eric

: "brian a m stuckless" wrote in message
: ...
: $$ TRUE physical
:
:
:
:
: What would be your reaction to finding those that still believe
: the earth is flat?
:
: The either/or certainty of science and religion in truth define
: equal and opposite extremes of ignorance concerning
: the true nature of our reality.
:
: Reality is defined by neither/both uncertainty such as that found
: in the dual nature of light, or in a cloud. Where opposite extremes
: are entractably entangled and cannot be mapped.
: Where things tremble. That is unless the whole is destroyed
: into one or the other. Into the simple components of reality.
:
: But the big joke on 'modern' science is that reality is not
: defined by its components, or the simplest the universe
: has to offer. The true nature of reality is displayed best
: by the highest level of complexity.
:
: Which is where the opposite extremes exist at a persistent
: phase transition ....between...each other. Where you can't tell
: if it's a particle or wave, water or air, instinct or intelligence.
: Science or religion.
:
: Whether in light, a cloud or an emotion, this neither/both
: uncertainty is the source of all order in the universe.
:
: Is life defined by genetics or mutation? Or is it natural selection
: where both/neither dominate, but combine to produce
: self organizing order? This emergent order is a result of
: the total weight of a nearly infinite sequence of random
: unknowable events.
:
: Yet you seem to think that an idea can be understood
: by a detailed look at each and every neuron ever
: fired in our minds. Just as you think reality can
: be understood by looking at what things do in
: ever greater detail.
:
: Emergent order such as light, an emotion or a galaxy
: are born from this systemic uncertainty. The one place
: your equations or religions cannot see through is
: the source of all order in the universe and our
: reality.
:
: And the more refined, detailed or specialized your
: component either/or...good/evil methods become, the
: more complete is your inability to find the simplicity
: of our existence. The greater is your ignorance of
: reality.
:
: Increasing order, creation and life emerge where the
: opposite extremes are united.
:
: Destruction and ignorance emerge when the opposite
: extremes are kept apart.
:
: Your certain sciences and religions define only death.
: Life and reality are defined at the edge, where
: opposites meet and tremble unknowably.
: As lovers do.
:
:
:
: Jonathan
:
: s
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
: $$
: $$ GUESS iSS General UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM, enthalpy:
: $$
: $$ |(m1*v1)^2 G*M1*m1 m1*v1^2|
: $$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = |--------- + ---------- + -------|
: $$ | 2*M1 (n - 1)*rA 2 |
: $$
: $$ " " " = | eK + eG - eV |
: $$
: $$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + REST energy eM |
: $$
: $$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + m*c^2 |
: $$
: $$ | a b |
: $$ """ (Van der Waals) = |P*(Vol - b) + {(---)*(1 - ---)} |
: $$ | Vol Vol |
: $$
: $$ | a b |
: $$ """ (Dieterici) = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + {(----)*(1 - ----)}|
: $$ | y*Vc y*Vc |
: $$
: $$ | a a*b |
: $$ " " " Dieterici's.. = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + ---- - --------|
: $$ | y*Vc (y*Vc)^2|
: $$
: $$ | m1*v1^2|
: $$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*g*rA + -------|
: $$ | 2 |
: $$
: $$ | m1*v1^2|
: $$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*v1^2 + -------|
: $$ | 2 |.
: $$
: $$ GUESS iSS Volt*Amp*sec energy eV is otherwise, - (m1*v1^2 / 2).
: $$
: Dieterici's CRiTiCAL constants. .
: Gibb's free energy eG.|| Pc*Vc | | Ra |
: ANY flux formula. ||----------| = |--------| = 0.30472135.
: Bernoulli's Law. ||("e")^2*Tc| |10*("e")|
: TRUE physical. |Note: MOLAR CONSTANT Ra=Na*k=no*vm*k.,.
:
:

Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B,
That's nice. However, what about all of those nice little Dropa/Dzopa
ETs; Where the heck did they come from?

Is there a Venus-like Sirius-c?
-
Brad Guth

Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B ) wrote:
: Eric Chomko wrote:
: Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B ) wrote:
: : The faithful witness to truth is likened unto a well in which
: : hope springs eternal - positive law coincides with justification
: : by faith, and not simply by additional work forced on the
: : believer! Yet one would believe that Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless
: : has found a niche for expounding what he believes (in his artful
: : conception) the rules of behavior governing particles and waves,
: : their interactions, symmetry, and of course, equations. So why
: : is it, that mankind is unable to tap the vast resources of this
: : intellectual capital? This idea warrants further investigation.
:
: It is the difference between an arhictect and someone that actually builds
: the buildings.

: That's your interpretation. It is, uh, what is "it"? A tool? And the
: word
: "actually" is what - in the motion of objective experience? We're
: talking about the "interrelationship" or "coexistence" of
: subject/object,
: not the ideologues of each.

Of course it's my interpretation. Are you going to say it's 'wrong' now?

:
: : Those who are practiced in the art of positive law are able to
: : achieve widespread communication of their plans and intentions.
: : The only thing preventing a believer from attaining his highest
: : achievement are the "chains" which bind the intellectual prowess
: : from being exercised at the right time and place. The "chains"
: : are the cunning of the weak and tame minds, which have the
: : power to resist the energy of the strong. They are imprisonments
: : of the creative imagination with fable or fiction, unable to
: : matriculate to the higher ground of application, unless some
: : important aspiration can be learned amidst the "youthful vigor",
: : in the attempt at orchestrating a one-person show, which must
: : face the lyrics of cross-correlated technological serpentry,
: : without impughning the free will of the participant or observer.
:
: All that said, this lacks in the area of being pragmatic. Einstein's work
: was able to be proven and used (beinging to) in a pragmatic sense.

: This is a political forum, not a pragmatic one, unless your talking
: funding. You are hanging a sign on the poster's posts as having
: "relativist" value, when, in fact, positive law has nothing to do
: with the "situational ethics" of a political forum.

I'm in sci.space.policy. Political to a degree and certainly we go OT a
lot, but confusing ethics (a branch of philosophy) with politics appears
to be what you're doing.

:
: : Government has been infected with the delusion of "what is
: : freedom" when the freedom itself has become liberalism. This
: : infection has spread to the moderates, who, acting in accordance
: : with the wishes of the "mob" of masses by widening the gulf between
: : its liberal and conservative constituents, by virtue of its
: : non-manipulation of the influx of illegal aliens, while at the
: : same time never being able to set a course for marginalizing the
: : huge monopolization that the energy industries have, as well as
: : the Federal Reserve, who have never once even attempted to back
: : the dollar with the gold standard. They all are as stuffed sentries
: : with no authority whatsoever, and they are rejected as lame
: : messengers of the promise!
:
: Try to stop paying your taxes and see what happens.

: The *laws* in this nation today are mostly for those who are
: practiced in the art of *sin*. Alert the nation to a new
: Constitutional Convention, and just see how many soldiers
: will join.

I doubt very many. Technically, Congress is what you're defining and the
last time I looked few soldiers were present except when the president
gives his SOU address.

:
: : Thus the loosened grip of government is immediately, by positive
: : law, caught up and empowered through new constitutional convention,
: : because the bureaucrats who stood idly by cannot for one single day
: : exist without mentorship, and the new authority abolishes the old
: : already malframed and diluted by moderates and liberalism.
:
: So more conservatism is the answer? No balance, just more power on the
: right? If you actually believe that, then you're a dupe.

: Since the power to tax is the power to destroy,

Also the power to build. Being wary of government, especially when it
comes to our money, is a wise thing to do; based upon too much government
corruption over the history of man. But, when a government of the people
by the people and for the people IS working correctly, then taxes are
well spent.

: no taxing authority
: could ever represent "intellectual capital" when the free will of
: private interests are at stake. A "luke warm" middle means
: "defining capitalism down" for conservatives, who then become
: betrayed by the "no conscience" of liberalism. Ergo, moral
: relativism for the masses - leading to mob rule, led by the
: media elite. No thanks, I'm a Constitutionalist.

Which appears to be a conclusion drawn from a series of premises which
don't seem to proceed. Don't call you a "commie". I GET that part!

:
: : Manipulation of the masses is for sociopaths. brian_am_stuckless
: : is not a manipulator of anyone. His dialecticisms are framed in
: : the highest artform available to engineers - mathematics. One
: : would tend to believe that there is a message behind using the
: : dollar signs at the borders of his reports - I can see that today
: : there is a tremendous ruse being played on the American people -
: : liberalism and dialectical moderation to the extreme. Yet the
: : ruses of the blind can in no way dilute the potency of the wise.
:
: If you think that the Power Elite is a bunch of liberals, then you are
: mistaken. "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", by Gary Allen for all it was
: worth made the exact same mistake. You cannot have a Power Elite exist
: within the context of them being all liberal or all conservative, as they
: certainly occupy all parts of the political spectrum. Currently, I
: believe that the majority of the Power Elite are mostly conservative,
: virtually opposite of what you are stating. The fact that write off
: moderates with liberals means you have an agenda. Period!

: I never said who I thought the "Power Elite" were. But I can show you
: all of the symptoms in a society gone awry when populism rules the
: roost - liberalism and dialectical moderation being dictated to the
: masses day in and day out in the spirit of the media gods, and not
: the truthful science faction that we'd all like to be a part of, in the
: noble attempts to dominionize and populate the heavens with our
: species; as grains of sand in the universe!

Pure capitalism won't give you the utopia you cite above. It almost sounds
like you're a closet socialist, but I digress...

: Is this who you are
: saying that the Power Elite represent? It isn't George Bush, or
: anyone in government that I can think of, by virtue of the fact that
: I can see subtle, competing interests at stake with 9-11, with Bush
: and big oil seemingly playing both sides of the 9-11 political
: spectrum,

Perhaps not IN the government but peripherally involved. Look up 'PNAC' on
wiki for a list of names.

: being "pulled by strings" of an even greater authority,
: internationalism.
: Now 9-11 is now a worn-out excuse for rising gas prices and
: inflation, all caused by the greed and conspiracy of gas hog
: manufacturers, environmentalists, taxing authorities, ethically
: blind purchasers of same, tiptoeing plutocrats, and their ongoing
: campaign of raising their armies of prosecuting attorneys and
: feel-good politicians in order to invalidate the real truth of needing
: more advanced R&D, and less judicial activism in order to ac-
: complish the same. I'm a constitutionalist, plain and simple.
: Count me out of your fiasco of the populist movement!

How is a constitutionalist going to get more R&D funding? I'm a flipping
techno-scientist and tell you to shove your political stance in favor of
technology and the furtherment of mankind. You speak the same ends, curse
the same demon yet embrace a vehicle that is DOA.

:
: : Political shadiness are for those who can't withstand the light
: : of truth. Only the knowingly-ignorant will perish of their own
: : accord. The free will of the force of faithful intuition can never
: : be resisted. Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless is a simple example of the
: : force of faithful intuition. How much he is right, I am not sure.
: : But I can say one thing: the "proud" will succumb to the applica-
: : tions of the wise, and will be banished from advancing the
: : applications and benefits of harmonious science!
:
: I'v read his posts and never concluded anything political from them. Now
: you come along and throw a politcal bent on them. Exactly what IS your
: agenda? Care to share?

: You've never concluded anything? Then only YOU can be right in NOT
: concluding anything. If you have no message in this usenet, what good
: is it to post anything?

You tell me why you're here and we'll take it from there. I like the part
about R&D funding but that isn't in the Constitution you seem to be
wrapped up in. Perhaps it is me that is confused but you don't make
clarity a top priority.

Eric

:
: Eric
:
: : "brian a m stuckless" wrote in message
: : ...
: : $$ TRUE physical
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : What would be your reaction to finding those that still believe
: : the earth is flat?
: :
: : The either/or certainty of science and religion in truth define
: : equal and opposite extremes of ignorance concerning
: : the true nature of our reality.
: :
: : Reality is defined by neither/both uncertainty such as that found
: : in the dual nature of light, or in a cloud. Where opposite extremes
: : are entractably entangled and cannot be mapped.
: : Where things tremble. That is unless the whole is destroyed
: : into one or the other. Into the simple components of reality.
: :
: : But the big joke on 'modern' science is that reality is not
: : defined by its components, or the simplest the universe
: : has to offer. The true nature of reality is displayed best
: : by the highest level of complexity.
: :
: : Which is where the opposite extremes exist at a persistent
: : phase transition ....between...each other. Where you can't tell
: : if it's a particle or wave, water or air, instinct or intelligence.
: : Science or religion.
: :
: : Whether in light, a cloud or an emotion, this neither/both
: : uncertainty is the source of all order in the universe.
: :
: : Is life defined by genetics or mutation? Or is it natural selection
: : where both/neither dominate, but combine to produce
: : self organizing order? This emergent order is a result of
: : the total weight of a nearly infinite sequence of random
: : unknowable events.
: :
: : Yet you seem to think that an idea can be understood
: : by a detailed look at each and every neuron ever
: : fired in our minds. Just as you think reality can
: : be understood by looking at what things do in
: : ever greater detail.
: :
: : Emergent order such as light, an emotion or a galaxy
: : are born from this systemic uncertainty. The one place
: : your equations or religions cannot see through is
: : the source of all order in the universe and our
: : reality.
: :
: : And the more refined, detailed or specialized your
: : component either/or...good/evil methods become, the
: : more complete is your inability to find the simplicity
: : of our existence. The greater is your ignorance of
: : reality.
: :
: : Increasing order, creation and life emerge where the
: : opposite extremes are united.
: :
: : Destruction and ignorance emerge when the opposite
: : extremes are kept apart.
: :
: : Your certain sciences and religions define only death.
: : Life and reality are defined at the edge, where
: : opposites meet and tremble unknowably.
: : As lovers do.
: :
: :
: :
: : Jonathan
: :
: : s
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : $$
: : $$ GUESS iSS General UNiVERSAL EQUATiON of STATE SYSTEM, enthalpy:
: : $$
: : $$ |(m1*v1)^2 G*M1*m1 m1*v1^2|
: : $$ Hamiltonian ENTHALPY E = |--------- + ---------- + -------|
: : $$ | 2*M1 (n - 1)*rA 2 |
: : $$
: : $$ " " " = | eK + eG - eV |
: : $$
: : $$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + REST energy eM |
: : $$
: : $$ " " " (Einstein) = | eK + m*c^2 |
: : $$
: : $$ | a b |
: : $$ """ (Van der Waals) = |P*(Vol - b) + {(---)*(1 - ---)} |
: : $$ | Vol Vol |
: : $$
: : $$ | a b |
: : $$ """ (Dieterici) = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + {(----)*(1 - ----)}|
: : $$ | y*Vc y*Vc |
: : $$
: : $$ | a a*b |
: : $$ " " " Dieterici's.. = |x*Pc*(z*Vc - b) + ---- - --------|
: : $$ | y*Vc (y*Vc)^2|
: : $$
: : $$ | m1*v1^2|
: : $$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*g*rA + -------|
: : $$ | 2 |
: : $$
: : $$ | m1*v1^2|
: : $$ " " " (Bernoulli) = |P*(Vol - b) + m1*v1^2 + -------|
: : $$ | 2 |.
: : $$
: : $$ GUESS iSS Volt*Amp*sec energy eV is otherwise, - (m1*v1^2 / 2).
: : $$
: : Dieterici's CRiTiCAL constants. .
: : Gibb's free energy eG.|| Pc*Vc | | Ra |
: : ANY flux formula. ||----------| = |--------| = 0.30472135.
: : Bernoulli's Law. ||("e")^2*Tc| |10*("e")|
: : TRUE physical. |Note: MOLAR CONSTANT Ra=Na*k=no*vm*k.,.
: :
: :

Brad Guth wrote:
Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B,
That's nice. However, what about all of those nice little Dropa/Dzopa
ETs; Where the heck did they come from?

Is there a Venus-like Sirius-c?
-
Brad Guth

Hmmmmmm, the "Dropa?Dzopa"? .... I guess if your going to include
THEM into the fold, we might as well include the whole she-bang:

http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen

Some of these ant headed like creatures are allergic to harmonic
crystal technology:

http://www.pyradyne.com/
(particularly, the Microstarr w/an etheric sub-dimensional field)

Brad Guth wrote:
Is there a Venus-like Sirius-c?

Old Testament Biblical texts refer to Sirius as Mazzaroth,

e.g., "Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season?
or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons"?
(Job 38:31)

ref. http://www.shirleymaclaine.com/artic...es/article-312

Hmmmmmm, the "Dropa?Dzopa"? .... I guess if your going to include
THEM into the fold, we might as well include the whole she-bang:
Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B,
Perhaps those nice little Dropa/Dzopa ETs (some of which survive as of
today) were some of those "FALLEN ANGELS", or perhaps they were just ET
wizards that shared their expertise with China, because at the time
(10,000 BC) it was either do or be eaten alive by us Earthly heathens
that had damn near no regard for human or any other life. Come to
think about it, our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush) hasn't evolved or
otherwise changed one damn bit since 10,000 BC.

Manipulation of the masses is for sociopaths. brian_am_stuckless
is not a manipulator of anyone. His dialecticisms are framed in
the highest artform available to engineers - mathematics. One
would tend to believe that there is a message behind using the
dollar signs at the borders of his reports - I can see that today
there is a tremendous ruse being played on the American people -
liberalism and dialectical moderation to the extreme. Yet the
ruses of the blind can in no way dilute the potency of the wise.
Political shadiness are for those who can't withstand the light
of truth. Only the knowingly-ignorant will perish of their own
accord. The free will of the force of faithful intuition can never
be resisted. Mr. brian_a_m_stuckless is a simple example of the
force of faithful intuition. How much he is right, I am not sure.
But I can say one thing: the "proud" will succumb to the applica-
tions of the wise, and will be banished from advancing the
applications and benefits of harmonious science!
TRUE physical / Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B,
I totally agree, and I even have a few of my very own WMD forms of
"harmonious science" that actually has replicated hard-science and
otherwise based upon the regular laws of physics to boot, that'll kick
serious Usenet naysay butt in order to prove it.
-
Brad Guth

The question that stands; Is there a Venus-like Sirius-c?


Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B wrote:
Brad Guth wrote:
Dogon_Tribe_from_Sirius_B,
That's nice. However, what about all of those nice little Dropa/Dzopa
ETs; Where the heck did they come from?

Is there a Venus-like Sirius-c?
-
Brad Guth

Hmmmmmm, the "Dropa?Dzopa"? .... I guess if your going to include
THEM into the fold, we might as well include the whole she-bang:

http://www.ryanmcginty.com/fallen

Some of these ant headed like creatures are allergic to harmonic
crystal technology:

http://www.pyradyne.com/
(particularly, the Microstarr w/an etheric sub-dimensional field)