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Cronkite: Has He Come Out in Favor of Return to Moon, On to Mars??



 
 
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Old February 17th 06, 07:35 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Re Cronkite and his moon chip gift -- To the
best of public knowledge, has Cronkite made ANY
public supportive statements about VSE? He
came out for the elder Bush call for return to
the Moon and Mars, and so I'm told, was mocked
to his face on TV in 1989-1990 by libs such as
Leslie Stahl for such crazy ideas.

I wonder, considering his expressed hostility to
anything having to do with the current prez, if
he's either just said nothing -- or has made
negative remarks about the space plans?

Anybody heard anything?



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Old February 17th 06, 10:57 PM posted to sci.space.history
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Who is this "Cronkite" of which you speak?
Some grup from the beforetime?


Cronkite is about as close to God as you'll get. However, apparently
it's not all that hard for the expertise of our Skull and Bones to
snooker God.

At any rate, going back to the moon is even a good idea if it's for the
very first time around.

However, what the sam freaking hell is so gosh darn taboo/nondisclosure
about our utilizing the efficient though somewhat interactive
LL-1/ME-L1 as per station-keeping, that's supposedly situated at
roughly 60,000 km away from the lunar deck?

Seems the amount of auxiliary ion thrust or even conventional reaction
thruster energy as per interactively station-keeping would be the
least.

Deploying of whatever to/from the moon or Earth is simply why LL-1 is
still the one and only best ever sweet-spot for accomplishing such
efforts.
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Brad Guth

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Old February 18th 06, 09:37 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Assuming you're not joking here - Walter Cronkite was CBS New Anchor
before Dan Rather. He was 'the most trusted man in America' at one
time. You can check it out at;

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/C/...ronkitewal.htm
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=3810724

Walter was the one who told us in November 1963, "The president has
been shot." and in 1969, breathlessly reported Neil Armstrong's trip
to the moon, recalling the fallen president's commitment to a moon
landing.

He retired in 1981 - before many who post here were born.

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Old February 18th 06, 09:39 AM posted to sci.space.history
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Brad,

I believe we've asked you nicely to go play somewhere else until you
get the mental health care you need. Go away. No one likes you here.
So, just go away.

Thanks.

Bill

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Old February 18th 06, 01:58 PM posted to sci.space.history
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1981, its hard to believe he retired so long ago!

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wrote:
1981, its hard to believe he retired so long ago!


Yes, haha..

http://www.retrofuture.com/spaceage.html
http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVTh...thCentury.html

From 1967 to 1970 Walter Conkrite hosted the TV Show 21st Century.

Fabulous looks that the future. Sad to see the reality, fun to see it
again in films like THE INCREDIBLES! haha..

I especially liked the NASA rover that astronauts could live in for 30
days or so.

The rover looked like an articulated bus on springy metal wheels. It
had an airlock and a shirt-sleeve environment. It would be sent one
way to the moon aboard an unmanned Saturn V, and landed using a pair of
lunar descent engines to come to rest on the lunar surface directly on
the moon.

Astronauts would arrive in a second Saturn V shot, and land near the
rover. They would then spend 30 days on the moon, traversing 20 to 50
miles per day, coming back to the lander to return to Earth.

http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...irr/em/6/8.cfm

This idea has returned in the NASA design for a mobile lunar base

http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...es/mobile1.jpg

Which is a cool idea.

I imagined the vehicle IN A FALL OF MOONDUST by Arthur Clarke looked a
lot like the vehicle I saw on CBS' Show 21st Century!

lol

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Old February 18th 06, 06:57 PM posted to sci.space.history
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William Mook wrote:


Astronauts would arrive in a second Saturn V shot, and land near the
rover. They would then spend 30 days on the moon, traversing 20 to 50
miles per day, coming back to the lander to return to Earth.

http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...irr/em/6/8.cfm



From that page:
http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...s/lunarwrm.gif
Look...Shai-Hulud. :-D

pat
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Old February 19th 06, 01:13 AM posted to sci.space.history
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No way, my brown-nosed Third Reich collaborator.

"No one likes you here" is pretty much exactly what Jews said about
Jesus Christ just prior to having directed their nice Roman friends in
crimes against humanity, to deal with the problem.
-
Brad Guth

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Old February 19th 06, 09:03 PM posted to sci.space.history
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If nothing else, Cronkite would have to agree that we should at least
go back to LL-1.

A viable parking orbit (aka station-keeping platform/tank-farm) of a
massive fuel depot in the sky, of which LL-1 could easily be
accommodating those sorts of volumes and of whatever mass as offering
an unlimited solution isn't or at least it shouldn't hardly be rocket
science. At least not by now, especially in that so many satellite
deployments (including those of our Apollo fiasco) have more than
proven their translunar capability.

LL-1 is not technically of what's nearly as taboo/nondisclosure as
you'd think, although the naysay likes of William Mook should
continually disagree just out of spite. In spite of all the Usenet
and/or other naysay flak, it's not even all that far away nor without
benefit of the lunar gravity itself. Actually taking advantage of the
moon/sun alignment is one better yet, and of those deployments taking
the full lunar cycle of 29.5 days of getting whatever tonnage
transferred away from Earth and efficiently arriving into the LL-1
sweet-spot isn't a robotic DNA problem that I know of.

Since retrothrust reserves of rocket fuel isn't a significant
requirement for getting the vast bulk of substantial components and
fuel tonnage into that zone (merely reaction thrusters should more than
do the trick), and the interactive gravity-well and of tidal forces
should otherwise work in our favor. Therefore, where exactly is the
supposed insurmountable or dumbfounded problem?

As long as we don't have to deal with banking the likes of robotic bone
marrow, and since the LL-1 zone is supposedly a good 60,000 km away
from our reactive and therefore extremely nasty moon by day (by way of
earthshine being as little as 0.1% as nasty and therefore humanly
survivable), is why the LL-1 zone is so nicely space-depot
accommodating. There's also the very least amount of local plus solar
wind medium to deal with, and it's even somewhat shielded by way of the
lunar gravity extended magnetosphere of mother Earth.

As for Earth-science and moon-science and just plain old
astronomy/astrophysics science on steroids, there's none better than
LL-1. I think it's even humanly safer and most certainly it's far more
accessible and thereby end-user friendly than being entirely exposed
and out-of sight via LL-2.

Even Walter Cronkite should fully support the notions that short
duration transits of getting crew safely from Earth to LL-1 should be
doable within 24 hours, although requiring a fair amount of SRM or LRB
retrothrust. A gravity free fall back to mother Earth seems rather
energy efficient, as well as deploying whatever into lunar orbit should
no longer be nearly as complicated as it is. Even the notions of
deploying nukes from LL-1 isn't insurmountable, although from a
tethered deployed platform that can be efficiently sustained at 50,000
km away from Earth (25,000 km if you'd dare) might seriously improve
the odds of our nukes taking out whatever cash of their nukes before
they ever get launched in the first place.
-
Brad Guth

Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac:
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator)
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm

 




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