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Re Cronkite and his moon chip gift -- To the
best of public knowledge, has Cronkite made ANY public supportive statements about VSE? He came out for the elder Bush call for return to the Moon and Mars, and so I'm told, was mocked to his face on TV in 1989-1990 by libs such as Leslie Stahl for such crazy ideas. I wonder, considering his expressed hostility to anything having to do with the current prez, if he's either just said nothing -- or has made negative remarks about the space plans? Anybody heard anything? |
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Who is this "Cronkite" of which you speak?
Some grup from the beforetime? Cronkite is about as close to God as you'll get. However, apparently it's not all that hard for the expertise of our Skull and Bones to snooker God. At any rate, going back to the moon is even a good idea if it's for the very first time around. However, what the sam freaking hell is so gosh darn taboo/nondisclosure about our utilizing the efficient though somewhat interactive LL-1/ME-L1 as per station-keeping, that's supposedly situated at roughly 60,000 km away from the lunar deck? Seems the amount of auxiliary ion thrust or even conventional reaction thruster energy as per interactively station-keeping would be the least. Deploying of whatever to/from the moon or Earth is simply why LL-1 is still the one and only best ever sweet-spot for accomplishing such efforts. - Brad Guth |
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Assuming you're not joking here - Walter Cronkite was CBS New Anchor
before Dan Rather. He was 'the most trusted man in America' at one time. You can check it out at; http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/C/...ronkitewal.htm http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=3810724 Walter was the one who told us in November 1963, "The president has been shot." and in 1969, breathlessly reported Neil Armstrong's trip to the moon, recalling the fallen president's commitment to a moon landing. He retired in 1981 - before many who post here were born. |
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Brad,
I believe we've asked you nicely to go play somewhere else until you get the mental health care you need. Go away. No one likes you here. So, just go away. Thanks. Bill |
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1981, its hard to believe he retired so long ago!
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![]() wrote: 1981, its hard to believe he retired so long ago! Yes, haha.. http://www.retrofuture.com/spaceage.html http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVTh...thCentury.html From 1967 to 1970 Walter Conkrite hosted the TV Show 21st Century. Fabulous looks that the future. Sad to see the reality, fun to see it again in films like THE INCREDIBLES! haha.. I especially liked the NASA rover that astronauts could live in for 30 days or so. The rover looked like an articulated bus on springy metal wheels. It had an airlock and a shirt-sleeve environment. It would be sent one way to the moon aboard an unmanned Saturn V, and landed using a pair of lunar descent engines to come to rest on the lunar surface directly on the moon. Astronauts would arrive in a second Saturn V shot, and land near the rover. They would then spend 30 days on the moon, traversing 20 to 50 miles per day, coming back to the lander to return to Earth. http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...irr/em/6/8.cfm This idea has returned in the NASA design for a mobile lunar base http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...es/mobile1.jpg Which is a cool idea. I imagined the vehicle IN A FALL OF MOONDUST by Arthur Clarke looked a lot like the vehicle I saw on CBS' Show 21st Century! lol |
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![]() William Mook wrote: Astronauts would arrive in a second Saturn V shot, and land near the rover. They would then spend 30 days on the moon, traversing 20 to 50 miles per day, coming back to the lander to return to Earth. http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...irr/em/6/8.cfm From that page: http://aerospacescholars.jsc.nasa.go...s/lunarwrm.gif Look...Shai-Hulud. :-D pat |
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No way, my brown-nosed Third Reich collaborator.
"No one likes you here" is pretty much exactly what Jews said about Jesus Christ just prior to having directed their nice Roman friends in crimes against humanity, to deal with the problem. - Brad Guth |
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If nothing else, Cronkite would have to agree that we should at least
go back to LL-1. A viable parking orbit (aka station-keeping platform/tank-farm) of a massive fuel depot in the sky, of which LL-1 could easily be accommodating those sorts of volumes and of whatever mass as offering an unlimited solution isn't or at least it shouldn't hardly be rocket science. At least not by now, especially in that so many satellite deployments (including those of our Apollo fiasco) have more than proven their translunar capability. LL-1 is not technically of what's nearly as taboo/nondisclosure as you'd think, although the naysay likes of William Mook should continually disagree just out of spite. In spite of all the Usenet and/or other naysay flak, it's not even all that far away nor without benefit of the lunar gravity itself. Actually taking advantage of the moon/sun alignment is one better yet, and of those deployments taking the full lunar cycle of 29.5 days of getting whatever tonnage transferred away from Earth and efficiently arriving into the LL-1 sweet-spot isn't a robotic DNA problem that I know of. Since retrothrust reserves of rocket fuel isn't a significant requirement for getting the vast bulk of substantial components and fuel tonnage into that zone (merely reaction thrusters should more than do the trick), and the interactive gravity-well and of tidal forces should otherwise work in our favor. Therefore, where exactly is the supposed insurmountable or dumbfounded problem? As long as we don't have to deal with banking the likes of robotic bone marrow, and since the LL-1 zone is supposedly a good 60,000 km away from our reactive and therefore extremely nasty moon by day (by way of earthshine being as little as 0.1% as nasty and therefore humanly survivable), is why the LL-1 zone is so nicely space-depot accommodating. There's also the very least amount of local plus solar wind medium to deal with, and it's even somewhat shielded by way of the lunar gravity extended magnetosphere of mother Earth. As for Earth-science and moon-science and just plain old astronomy/astrophysics science on steroids, there's none better than LL-1. I think it's even humanly safer and most certainly it's far more accessible and thereby end-user friendly than being entirely exposed and out-of sight via LL-2. Even Walter Cronkite should fully support the notions that short duration transits of getting crew safely from Earth to LL-1 should be doable within 24 hours, although requiring a fair amount of SRM or LRB retrothrust. A gravity free fall back to mother Earth seems rather energy efficient, as well as deploying whatever into lunar orbit should no longer be nearly as complicated as it is. Even the notions of deploying nukes from LL-1 isn't insurmountable, although from a tethered deployed platform that can be efficiently sustained at 50,000 km away from Earth (25,000 km if you'd dare) might seriously improve the odds of our nukes taking out whatever cash of their nukes before they ever get launched in the first place. - Brad Guth Life upon Venus, a township w/Bridge & ET/UFO Park-n-Ride Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm Venus ETs, plus the updated sub-topics; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm |
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