sidewalk astro - I didn't mean to start a flame war

Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.

However, I will also bet that each of us still share the "oh, wow"
moments several times a year, a month, or a day. That moment may be
alone, it may be with friends, or it may be with strangers.

I spent this weekend at the beach, 120 miles from home. Took the ETX
125 (since I knew that I'd be on the wrong side of a six-pack of Bud
Light and could never manage to push the dobbie correctly!) with me so
a few friends and even more total strangers could look up for what
might be the first time in their lives.

Then, I came home and saw the foolish argument my salute to Starlord
had engendered.

I'm saddened when we have flame wars here in our group. I have a
certain respect for all of you. I don't care if you're Democrat or
Republican, Liberal or Conservative, even American or Anyone-Else.

I'm not the best God-dy sort of fellow out there, but if there was ever
an example of "wherever two or more of you are gathered in His name,
there is Love," we're it when we look at the stars and then tell each
other about what we saw.

The newbie who breathlessly posts here as though Jupiter were a new
discovery or the most hardened SBIG owner are one when they send
messages to this forum.

I am saddened that some of you took up a sword that did not need to be
grasped. Those of you who hate chemistry, or those of you who are
devoted to it needn't waste time in ad hominem attacks.

We can reasonably discuss chemistry, physics, music, art, literature,
or any field upon which humans have devoted their short span of
consciousness. But we can do so as sisters and brothers behind a lens.


The prime focus makes us one. We needn't be cruel to each other
because we differ in our views. I don't care about any of your
political beliefs. I'll bet we'd shake hands after helping a 10-year
old find Andromeda in a 60-mm refractor.

Stop arguing. Treasure this forum. After all, the stars are probably
laughing at us, anyway.

Richard in the west end of the Antelope Valley, California

Shoot, you call **that** a "flame war?"

rat
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ps.com...
Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.

However, I will also bet that each of us still share the "oh, wow"
moments several times a year, a month, or a day. That moment may be
alone, it may be with friends, or it may be with strangers.

I spent this weekend at the beach, 120 miles from home. Took the ETX
125 (since I knew that I'd be on the wrong side of a six-pack of Bud
Light and could never manage to push the dobbie correctly!) with me so
a few friends and even more total strangers could look up for what
might be the first time in their lives.

Then, I came home and saw the foolish argument my salute to Starlord
had engendered.

I'm saddened when we have flame wars here in our group. I have a
certain respect for all of you. I don't care if you're Democrat or
Republican, Liberal or Conservative, even American or Anyone-Else.

I'm not the best God-dy sort of fellow out there, but if there was ever
an example of "wherever two or more of you are gathered in His name,
there is Love," we're it when we look at the stars and then tell each
other about what we saw.

The newbie who breathlessly posts here as though Jupiter were a new
discovery or the most hardened SBIG owner are one when they send
messages to this forum.

I am saddened that some of you took up a sword that did not need to be
grasped. Those of you who hate chemistry, or those of you who are
devoted to it needn't waste time in ad hominem attacks.

We can reasonably discuss chemistry, physics, music, art, literature,
or any field upon which humans have devoted their short span of
consciousness. But we can do so as sisters and brothers behind a lens.


The prime focus makes us one. We needn't be cruel to each other
because we differ in our views. I don't care about any of your
political beliefs. I'll bet we'd shake hands after helping a 10-year
old find Andromeda in a 60-mm refractor.

Stop arguing. Treasure this forum. After all, the stars are probably
laughing at us, anyway.

Richard in the west end of the Antelope Valley, California


Even though Dennis and I are almost diametrically opposed, politically, I
support him all the way in his endeavors as a sidewalk astronomer.

I'm a fellow Vietnam veteran from the same general timeframe, and I
understand what THAT's all about better than some...

But more than all of that, I have been in amateur astronomy for over 40
years now, and the wonder of it all just never goes away...

That Dennis spends so much of HIS time trying to introduce OTHERS to this,
is, and will always be, to his credit, in MY book.

My hat's off to the lone sidewalk astronomer of Rosamond...

AND to his cats...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3

Hay Rick, I must have missed most of those post or they where posted by
members of the old killfile. If the ones that are against chemistry, should
stop and think, for the plastics,etc. that make up the computer their using
came in a way via chemistry, and every plant on earth uses a low level of
chemistry.

Sure there's been miss uses and mistakes made, but then again that's happen
all threw mans history. I notice the people who protest Nuke power plants,
all go home and will sure use the power they are making.

For the most part, I keep most of my opions to myself unless someone gets up
close to me in my face, then the real war can start.

In the meantime, I hope you will post about your school events you've held
in the blog I have set up on my site. Don't know how well things work, other
than they seem to work from my side ok.

www.sidewalkastronomy.info


--

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Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
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http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
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http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords




wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.

However, I will also bet that each of us still share the "oh, wow"
moments several times a year, a month, or a day. That moment may be
alone, it may be with friends, or it may be with strangers.

I spent this weekend at the beach, 120 miles from home. Took the ETX
125 (since I knew that I'd be on the wrong side of a six-pack of Bud
Light and could never manage to push the dobbie correctly!) with me so
a few friends and even more total strangers could look up for what
might be the first time in their lives.

Then, I came home and saw the foolish argument my salute to Starlord
had engendered.

I'm saddened when we have flame wars here in our group. I have a
certain respect for all of you. I don't care if you're Democrat or
Republican, Liberal or Conservative, even American or Anyone-Else.

I'm not the best God-dy sort of fellow out there, but if there was ever
an example of "wherever two or more of you are gathered in His name,
there is Love," we're it when we look at the stars and then tell each
other about what we saw.

The newbie who breathlessly posts here as though Jupiter were a new
discovery or the most hardened SBIG owner are one when they send
messages to this forum.

I am saddened that some of you took up a sword that did not need to be
grasped. Those of you who hate chemistry, or those of you who are
devoted to it needn't waste time in ad hominem attacks.

We can reasonably discuss chemistry, physics, music, art, literature,
or any field upon which humans have devoted their short span of
consciousness. But we can do so as sisters and brothers behind a lens.


The prime focus makes us one. We needn't be cruel to each other
because we differ in our views. I don't care about any of your
political beliefs. I'll bet we'd shake hands after helping a 10-year
old find Andromeda in a 60-mm refractor.

Stop arguing. Treasure this forum. After all, the stars are probably
laughing at us, anyway.

Richard in the west end of the Antelope Valley, California

wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.



Don't tell us, tell the kids damn it!!

wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.

However, I will also bet that each of us still share the "oh, wow"
moments several times a year, a month, or a day. That moment may be
alone, it may be with friends, or it may be with strangers.

I spent this weekend at the beach, 120 miles from home. Took the ETX
125 (since I knew that I'd be on the wrong side of a six-pack of Bud
Light and could never manage to push the dobbie correctly!) with me so
a few friends and even more total strangers could look up for what
might be the first time in their lives.

Then, I came home and saw the foolish argument my salute to Starlord
had engendered.

I'm saddened when we have flame wars here in our group. I have a
certain respect for all of you. I don't care if you're Democrat or
Republican, Liberal or Conservative, even American or Anyone-Else.

I'm not the best God-dy sort of fellow out there, but if there was ever
an example of "wherever two or more of you are gathered in His name,
there is Love," we're it when we look at the stars and then tell each
other about what we saw.

The newbie who breathlessly posts here as though Jupiter were a new
discovery or the most hardened SBIG owner are one when they send
messages to this forum.

I am saddened that some of you took up a sword that did not need to be
grasped. Those of you who hate chemistry, or those of you who are
devoted to it needn't waste time in ad hominem attacks.

We can reasonably discuss chemistry, physics, music, art, literature,
or any field upon which humans have devoted their short span of
consciousness. But we can do so as sisters and brothers behind a lens.


The prime focus makes us one. We needn't be cruel to each other
because we differ in our views. I don't care about any of your
political beliefs. I'll bet we'd shake hands after helping a 10-year
old find Andromeda in a 60-mm refractor.

Stop arguing. Treasure this forum. After all, the stars are probably
laughing at us, anyway.

Richard in the west end of the Antelope Valley, California


I went back and looked at the thread that you mention and it appears that it
is just one person who is ranting. I did a find on him using the outlook
news reader and you do not have to go very far to figure out the type of
person he is. He seemed to use the word idiot a lot along with the
occasional expletive in his replies. He seems like a great candidate for a
kill file.

-p

"Pippen" wrote in message
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wrote in message
ps.com...
Hi, folks. Sorta disheartening that Starlord's inspiration in the
freezing sidewalks of Rosamond, working through me in the equally
frigid schoolyard of Lancaster High, has caused a flame war among
people who I am sure are fundamentally peaceful.

I think we can all agree that chemistry, just like any field of study,
has been abused by those who consider profit the penultimate life goal.
We each have different points of view on the benefits and costs of
living in a post-hunter-gatherer society. Glad to listen to your
views, actually, since I often learn something new when I do.

However, I will also bet that each of us still share the "oh, wow"
moments several times a year, a month, or a day. That moment may be
alone, it may be with friends, or it may be with strangers.



I went back and looked at the thread that you mention and it appears that
it is just one person who is ranting. I did a find on him using the
outlook news reader and you do not have to go very far to figure out the
type of person he is. He seemed to use the word idiot a lot along with the
occasional expletive in his replies. He seems like a great candidate for a
kill file.

-p

Another lurker. What kind of person are you that would actually take pains
to
do some kind of "tracking"? What an ASS!

EP Guy wrote:



Another lurker. What kind of person are you that would actually take pains
to
do some kind of "tracking"? What an ASS!




Ya know ?? You havnt posted one constructive
post since your newbie ass showed up here.
It's a shame when idiots like you are allowed to
get near a computer with internet access........

You've got nothing nice to say, and no info.
worth adding, or you already would have so.

{PLONK}


--
AM

http://sctuser.home.comcast.net

CentOS 4.2 KDE 3.3

wrote:

The prime focus makes us one. We needn't be cruel to each other
because we differ in our views. I don't care about any of your
political beliefs. I'll bet we'd shake hands after helping a 10-year
old find Andromeda in a 60-mm refractor.

Stop arguing. Treasure this forum. After all, the stars are probably
laughing at us, anyway.



Hi:

Don't argue on Usenet?! Rubbish! :-)

Seriously, I think Dennis can take up very well for himself without
help.

Posts like this tend to do just one thing: _stir the pot_.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of: _Choosing and Using an SCT_, and _The Urban Astronomers's
Guide_.
_http://members.aol.com/rmollise/index.html_
(http://members.aol.com/rmollise/index.html)