Armstrong lauds another spaceman

Neil Armstrong, in a very rare public appearance, said the following
at a
recent "Star Trek" fete honoring Jimmy "Scotty" Doohan...

"This evening is really an honor for me," Armstrong began. "It reminds
me that I am indeed remarkably fortunate. I have ridden on 13
different rocket engines, and had the privilege of commanding three
different types of spacecraft, traveling as fast as 25,000 miles an
hour. Candidly, and unfortunately, all of those were primitive -- none
of them had warp drive. The Enterprise was about 100,000 times as fast
as anything I ever flew. Our crafts did not even have the ability to
leave our solar system. Lucky for those Klingons!

"Not having a transporter was a significant disadvantage. The method
we used to descend from orbit to the surface of an alien world, uhh,
worked," the astronaut continued to the crowd's laughter, "but it
would've been far more efficient and far less traumatic if we could
just be beamed down. I'm hoping for my next command, to be given a
Federation starship. When I get that command, I would like to have a
crew like Captain James T. Kirk had: Spock, Chekov and Uhura, Dr.
McCoy, Sulu, and the others we all remember.

"Now, I have a confession to make. I am an engineer. And if I get that
command, I want a Chief Engineering officer like--" he took on a
Scottish lilt-- "Montgomery Scott. Because I know Scotty will get the
job done, and do it right. Even if I often hear him say, 'But
Caeptain, I dunna have enough time!' So from one old engineer to
another, thanks Scotty."

In article ,
says...
Neil Armstrong [...] said:
I have ridden on 13 different rocket engines

I can't match that number:

by type:
X-1b
X-15
Titan-II first stage
Titan-II second stage
Agena (well, it was planned....)
S-IC
S-II
S-IVB (I'm being generous, both S-II and S-IVB used J-2s)
Apollo SPS
LM Descent
LM Assent
That's 11.

By number:
1 X-1b
1 X-15
2 Titan II first stage
2 Titan II second stage
5 F-1s
5 J-2s
1 J-2
1 SPS
1 LM Descent
1 LM Ascent
That sum is too high even counting just the moon flight.

Assuming Armstrong is correct [sic!], what am I missing?



and had the privilege of commanding three
different types of spacecraft,

Why not count the X-15? (Yes, Armstrong never took it to 100 km, but it
could reach space.)
--
Kevin Willoughby lid

Imagine that, a FROG ON-OFF switch, hardly the work
for test pilots. -- Mike Collins

Neil Armstrong [...] said:
I have ridden on 13 different rocket engines

I can't match that number:

by type:
X-1b
X-15
Titan-II first stage
Titan-II second stage
Agena (well, it was planned....)
S-IC
S-II
S-IVB (I'm being generous, both S-II and S-IVB used J-2s)
Apollo SPS
LM Descent
LM Assent
That's 11.

By number:
1 X-1b
1 X-15
2 Titan II first stage
2 Titan II second stage
5 F-1s
5 J-2s
1 J-2
1 SPS
1 LM Descent
1 LM Ascent
That sum is too high even counting just the moon flight.

Assuming Armstrong is correct [sic!], what am I missing?

What about that lunar lander trainer vehicle that almost killed him? I
believe that it had two different engine systems installed.

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 13:22:13 -0500, Kevin Willoughby
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Neil Armstrong [...] said:
I have ridden on 13 different rocket engines

I can't match that number:

by type:
X-1b
X-15
Titan-II first stage
Titan-II second stage
Agena (well, it was planned....)
S-IC
S-II
S-IVB (I'm being generous, both S-II and S-IVB used J-2s)
Apollo SPS
LM Descent
LM Assent
That's 11.

By number:
1 X-1b
1 X-15
2 Titan II first stage
2 Titan II second stage
5 F-1s
5 J-2s
1 J-2
1 SPS
1 LM Descent
1 LM Ascent
That sum is too high even counting just the moon flight.

Assuming Armstrong is correct [sic!], what am I missing?



and had the privilege of commanding three
different types of spacecraft,

Why not count the X-15? (Yes, Armstrong never took it to 100 km, but it
could reach space.)


Gemini OAMS?

Apollo CM & LM RCS?

LLRV had small rocket engines.

The rocket in the ejection seat when he
ejected from the LLRV.

- Rusty Barton

Kevin Willoughby wrote in message ...
By number:
1 X-1b
1 X-15
2 Titan II first stage
2 Titan II second stage
5 F-1s
5 J-2s
1 J-2
1 SPS
1 LM Descent
1 LM Ascent
That sum is too high even counting just the moon flight.

Assuming Armstrong is correct [sic!], what am I missing?

You are counting the rocket sleds in training, right?

Kevin Willoughby wrote:

In article ,
says...

Neil Armstrong [...] said:
I have ridden on 13 different rocket engines


I can't match that number:

by type:
X-1b
X-15
Titan-II first stage
Titan-II second stage
Agena (well, it was planned....)
S-IC
S-II
S-IVB (I'm being generous, both S-II and S-IVB used J-2s)
Apollo SPS
LM Descent
LM Assent
That's 11.

By number:
1 X-1b
1 X-15
2 Titan II first stage
2 Titan II second stage
5 F-1s
5 J-2s
1 J-2
1 SPS
1 LM Descent
1 LM Ascent
That sum is too high even counting just the moon flight.

Assuming Armstrong is correct [sic!], what am I missing?




and had the privilege of commanding three
different types of spacecraft,


Why not count the X-15? (Yes, Armstrong never took it to 100 km, but it
could reach space.)
I'm embarrassed to say that the title of the thread made me think of
*Lance* Armstrong, the bicyclist. It's really a shame how the early
astronauts have disappeared from the scene.

Georgiana Gates wrote in message news:413b8af9$0$444

I'm embarrassed to say that the title of the thread made me think of
*Lance* Armstrong, the bicyclist. It's really a shame how the early
astronauts have disappeared from the scene.



I agree but lately Neil seems to be more in the public eye. He's
finally agreed to a book and there will be a movie about him. It seems
like he's been more available lately. If only the general public
better understood Apollo's accomplishments...

Gene DiGennaro
Baltimore,Md.

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:18:55 -0500, Georgiana Gates
wrote:


I'm embarrassed to say that the title of the thread made me think of
*Lance* Armstrong, the bicyclist.

Armstrong, space newsgroups. Yeah, that naturally lead to...a cyclist.

;-)


--
Steve.

Steve wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:18:55 -0500, Georgiana Gates
wrote:



I'm embarrassed to say that the title of the thread made me think of
*Lance* Armstrong, the bicyclist.


Armstrong, space newsgroups. Yeah, that naturally lead to...a cyclist.

;-)


I saw this thread on rec.arts.startrek, not a space newsgroup.

"Georgiana Gates" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 13:18:55 -0500, Georgiana Gates
wrote:



I'm embarrassed to say that the title of the thread made me think of
*Lance* Armstrong, the bicyclist.


Armstrong, space newsgroups. Yeah, that naturally lead to...a cyclist.

;-)


I saw this thread on rec.arts.startrek, not a space newsgroup.

Yes, since there's so much bicycling on Star Trek. :-)