The Problem of a beginning---Solved By nightbat Pointing Energy Latent Memory Propensity

nightbat wrote:
nightbat wrote

Thanagar wrote:

Most scientists trace the universe back to a very small, dense beginning
(a singularity), we cannot avoid this key issue: "If at some point in
the past, the Universe was once close to a singular state of infinitely
small size and infinite density, we have to ask what was there before
and what was outside the Universe. . . . We have to face the problem of
a Beginning."-Sir Bernard Lovell

This implies more than just a source of vast energy. Foresight and
intelligence are also needed because the rate of expansion seems very
finely tuned. "If the Universe had expanded one million millionth part
faster," said Lovell, "then all the material in the Universe would have
dispersed by now. . . . And if it had been a million millionth part
slower, then gravitational forces would have caused the Universe to
collapse within the first thousand million years or so of its existence.
Again, there would have been no long-lived stars and no life."

nightbat

Exactly Thanagar, and until the nightbat and the " Black Comet "
there was no solution only sci fi imagined black holes to account for
what could that singularity possibly be. What was before mass was energy
and will remain long after mass base quantum life radio decays and be
what is ultimately eternally left. The entire base energy field is
reciprocal reflecting a non uniform force input at some time to permit
the limited observed entire Universe to exist. Without it the perfect
undisturbed uniform energy united field would exist in continuum add
infinitum. The proverbial referenced separation of the waters of the
firmament. For a perfect uniform energy base field cannot of itself
place its own reciprocal state in non uniform momentum. The physical
observed Universe tells us something occurred to alter its normal state
of preferred propensity of perfect energy equalization and uniformity.
Hence the scientist's search for origination of Universe point cause
physical creation. The pointing nulling BB factor is that energy cannot
be created or destroyed via mathematical proof so Big Bang premise is
resultantly nullified due to transformation propensity of energy only
via E = mc2 not of its point creation ability. The unified field has
never ever existed in our space-time to permit analysis or comparison
via previous scientist investigations to deduce implications of this
very real factor. Without a comparative or confirming base frame
available no mathematical applied derivation except the eternal energy
mathematical proof one could be accomplished which would proof out to
reflecting past unifying reality, for total unified field has only
theoretically existed prior to the physical permitting non uniform
energy/mass Universe. The unification of field is not intuitive nor does
it directly lend to scientific observation. The physical clue or key
that the nightbat used for uniquely and originally theoretically uniting
all field dynamics was the giveaway latent memory propensity of all
energy attempts at renormalization. The Universe expanding and
contracting detected effects therefore are only the base energy field's
attempts at this process base hidden by the sub micro quantum states and
vast volume and immense distance universal reality. Don't blame Dr.
Einstein for the physical uniting frame has never existed in our
space-time even though thankfully his brilliant mathematical wife Mileva
did try to eternal infinite base field energy clue him in.

ponder on,
the nightbat


Of course if one goes with the very sensible Steady State Theory, one
doesn't have to worry about how the expansion of the universe could be
so highly fine-tuned that it neither collapses nor flies apart. Things
just are about the same as they have always been on the large scale.

The expansion of the universe is just one interpretation of
observational data. There are other ways to interpret it. It's not
like we're actually seeing the universe expanding with our eyes.

Double-A

Hi Double-A Steady State theory in reality answers nothing other than
here we are. It is worse than creating something from nothing.
It is like saying "things are the way they are because they are" Not
one question does this outdated theory answer. It relates to the bible's
creation,and might just as well bury your head in the sand,by believing
the Earth is 6,000 years old. It was humankinds worse theory,and because
it was so wide spread at its time Einstien got sucked in. Thanks to
Edwin Hubble and his use of a great telescope his search for the truth
was found. We now have a realistic view of our universe. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi Double-A Steady State theory in reality answers nothing other than
here we are. It is worse than creating something from nothing.
It is like saying "things are the way they are because they are"


That things in the past were about the same as they are now, and things
in the future will be about the same as they are now, don't seem to be
such bad assumptions to me.


Not
one question does this outdated theory answer. It relates to the bible's
creation,and might just as well bury your head in the sand,by believing
the Earth is 6,000 years old.


Huh? The Big Bang is the theory most often criticized for being too
close to Biblical creation.


It was humankinds worse theory,and because
it was so wide spread at its time Einstien got sucked in. Thanks to
Edwin Hubble and his use of a great telescope his search for the truth
was found. We now have a realistic view of our universe. Bert


Call them mavericks, but there are still a few scientists out there who
hold with the good old Steady State Theory!

Double-A

Hi Double-A Those that still cling to a steady state like you say are
few,to few worth mentioning. In the beginning things were a lot
different than now. Energies,and matter were different. Stars just did
not pop up over night. After gravity created the BB it took time
for gravity to evolve all that we see today. The universe is expanding.
and gravity is still evolving showing us many changes taking place as I
type. Reality is the only permanent thing about the universe is change.
Bert