[GENESIS] Genesis impacts ground straight in. No chute deployment!

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

OM

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

8-{ ;-)

- Rusty Barton

On 8 Sep 2004 09:03:59 -0700, (Rusty B) wrote:

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

....Funny you should bring that up. Sci-Fi is doing a 4-hour remake for
next fall.

OM

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In message , Rusty B
writes
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

OM

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

Let's hope Stardust has better luck - and if not, that Fred Hoyle was
wrong.
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
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On 8 Sep 2004 09:03:59 -0700, (Rusty B) wrote:

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

...Funny you should bring that up. Sci-Fi is doing a 4-hour remake for
next fall.

Even 30 or so years after that film, they *still* don't teach doctors how to
properly open spacecraft carrying alien spores. I'll bet they still use a
hammer and chisel!

On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:15:57 -0400, "Scott Hedrick"
wrote:

"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
in message ...
On 8 Sep 2004 09:03:59 -0700, (Rusty B) wrote:

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

...Funny you should bring that up. Sci-Fi is doing a 4-hour remake for
next fall.

Even 30 or so years after that film, they *still* don't teach doctors how to
properly open spacecraft carrying alien spores. I'll bet they still use a
hammer and chisel!

....From what I've been able to gather from the various sources, the
film's only going to update Crichton's original material insofar as
how much modern computer and microscopic technology has advanced, with
the only major change being that Andromeda will turn out to be a
nanite, which will raise the debate as to whether nanomachines that
reproduce themselves are life forms, etc, etc.

....The team will probably be also be more racially balanced, although
I seriously wonder where they're going to find someone like Kate Reid
to play Ruth Levitt and present the true "Odd Man" of the group.(*)

(*) In the novel, Levitt was male and straight. Robert Wise decided to
shake the mix up a bit, and cast Reid in the role.

OM

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poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
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, with
the only major change being that Andromeda will turn out to be a
nanite, which will raise the debate as to whether nanomachines that
reproduce themselves are life forms, etc, etc.

That's going to ruin the whole subtle point of the book, to wit; lifeforms
of non-earth origin were not likely to be inimical to earthlike lifeforms,
so they were looking at the upper levels of the earth's atmosphere. The
implication being that Andromeda had started out as a surface dweller ( or
alternately, that the surface dwellers started out in the upper atmosphere)
and therefore had enough similarity to be a threat.
Since there have never been any nanites in earth prehistory either up there
or down here, we're left postulating independent evolution, which raises the
original question about origins and why they would be a biological threat.

Of course, your mileage may vary...
-
Jim

Jonathan Silverlight wrote in message ...

genesis project/spiderweb 2gather stardust/Phoenix TPAS

the genesis space sample-return project has crashed
in usa. the fate of its glass collection plates is unknown.
the parachute/s did not deploy.

maybe the helicopter intercept blew the parachute inside out- NO.

kay.L. gave a powerpoint presentation to TPAS on Sund. 5-9-04.
the title slide showed a dewy spiderweb. the curve should
be a catenary uniform chain (cosh, or non-uniform funicular-
tonyaj) curve?
In PowerPoint
the curve was apparently suspended upside down, like ^ not u.
not a good sign.

but the genesis capsule may be snagged by a helicopter arm.
We have a problem!! (Houston.)

a parachute needs still air for uplift/ anti-gravity.
if a helicopter tries to catch the parachute, then the
rotor downdraught should accelerate the fall of the
capsule. the parachute may flip upside down + be
largely ineffective.

maybe the helicopter intercept blew the parachute inside out- NO.

don.lotto
mcdonald
9.9.04.

In message , Rusty B
writes
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 11:00:38 -0500, OM
om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_resear ch_facility.org
wrote:

...Recovery choppers are on scene, impact was sighted.

OM

Shades of Andromeda Strain!

Let's hope Stardust has better luck - and if not, that Fred Hoyle was
wrong.

On 8 Sep 2004 19:42:55 -0700, (Don McDonald)
wrote:

maybe the helicopter intercept blew the parachute inside out- NO.

....Illiterate, psychotic retards like you should never be allowed to
access usenet, much less be given access to a computer, even less so
for a public access dumb terminal.

OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 02:08:41 GMT, "James Nowotarski"
wrote:

That's going to ruin the whole subtle point of the book, to wit; lifeforms
of non-earth origin were not likely to be inimical to earthlike lifeforms,
so they were looking at the upper levels of the earth's atmosphere. The
implication being that Andromeda had started out as a surface dweller ( or
alternately, that the surface dwellers started out in the upper atmosphere)
and therefore had enough similarity to be a threat.

....Actually, one of the things about the end of that book that
Crichton never followed up on was this throwaway bit about the manned
mission that resulted in a failure because the Polycron seals failed.
Crichton has hinted over the years that he'd written that ending so as
to leave the reader with a question: was it possible that Andromeda
was a germ warfare weapon from outer space after all?


OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
in message ...
(*) In the novel, Levitt was male and straight. Robert Wise decided to
shake the mix up a bit, and cast Reid in the role.

And improved the story. I only just discovered she was a Brit.