Manned space flight after the moon landing

This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

My opinions (just an opinion, no flame wars)
I think Skylab was worthwhile. It didn't cost much and it gave
information about long-term stays.

Apollo-Soyuz test project - why not?

On to Mars - at the time I thought this is what should be done. In
retrospect, I think it might have been to difficult and costly. I'd
still like to see us get to Mars, but the cost might not be worth it.

Shuttle - I think this hasn't been worthwhile. It was supposed to put
things in orbit for $100/pound, it is actually $10,000/per pound.
That makes it a very expensive and dangerous way to deliver satellites
to orbit. It was supposed to fly many more flights per year than it
has done.

Space station - I don't think it is worth it.

Apollo Applications project - I'm not really sure what this would have
been about.

Moon base - perhaps.

Skylab and ASTP were limited projects, and I think they were OK. But
I'm at a loss about what the major focus of manned space flight should
have been.

Ideas?

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"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
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This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

Yes. In that order too.


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Alan Erskine
We can get people to the Moon in five years,
not the fifteen GWB proposes.
Give NASA a real challenge

"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
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This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

Manned base on Phobos and/or Deimos. This would be the ideal spot for
remote reconnaissance of Mars at highbandwidth, low risk and moderate
cost -- and it could have taught us how to live on and exploit asteroids.

The best space dollars we never spent.


Jim McCauley

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of me having sex with little boys , girls , men and dogs.
I just love seeing litttle boys cry when i put my hands on
there dick and when i give them a blow job.



--
Alan Erskine
We can get people to the Moon in five years,
not the fifteen GWB proposes.
Give NASA a real challenge

In article , "Jim McCauley"
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"Jud McCranie" wrote in message
...
This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

Manned base on Phobos and/or Deimos. This would be the ideal spot for
remote reconnaissance of Mars at highbandwidth, low risk and moderate
cost -- and it could have taught us how to live on and exploit asteroids...

Sounds like a winner, but I'd have put some time and resources into
learning to live and work on the Moon for a few years first to get
experience for the Phobos/Deimos bases. In fact, I think an extended lunar
program would've been necessary to cut our teeth testing a lot of
technologies we'd need to go on to Mars and/or its moons; if they're
testing something out and it goes South on them, it can still be
diagnosed/troubleshot over something resembling real-time voice
communication and TV, and if it goes Deep South, Earth is only two or
three days away.

However, iirc, Phobos and Deimos are fairly small, with even weaker
gravity than Our Own Moon, which might make EVA a bit weird. The surface
crews might have to use some kind of modified mountain climbing gear to
avoid accidentally launching themselves (no jumping flag salutes).

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along with their overcoats;
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they'd send a limousine anyway!" --the clash.
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Not to be nitpicky, but wasn't Apollo Applications Program (AAP) renames
Skylab?

Mathew Ota

Not a space Historian, but I did stay at the Holiday Inn

Jud McCranie wrote:

This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

My opinions (just an opinion, no flame wars)
I think Skylab was worthwhile. It didn't cost much and it gave
information about long-term stays.

Apollo-Soyuz test project - why not?

On to Mars - at the time I thought this is what should be done. In
retrospect, I think it might have been to difficult and costly. I'd
still like to see us get to Mars, but the cost might not be worth it.

Shuttle - I think this hasn't been worthwhile. It was supposed to put
things in orbit for $100/pound, it is actually $10,000/per pound.
That makes it a very expensive and dangerous way to deliver satellites
to orbit. It was supposed to fly many more flights per year than it
has done.

Space station - I don't think it is worth it.

Apollo Applications project - I'm not really sure what this would have
been about.

Moon base - perhaps.

Skylab and ASTP were limited projects, and I think they were OK. But
I'm at a loss about what the major focus of manned space flight should
have been.

Ideas?

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Not to be nitpicky, but wasn't Apollo Applications Program (AAP) renames
Skylab?

It was the ONLY part of applications to survive budget cuts.

I think a extended stay lunar base with apollo applications, going to some near
earth asteroids before going on to mars moons then mars itself.

Shuttle should of been launched on TOP of reusable saturn booster. this would
of cut costs of devlopment, since the saturn family of launchers already
existed. A reusable first stage might have helped cut costs a bit too.

With the applications perogram going full bore the shuttle flight rate would of
been more too.


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In article , Matthew Ota
wrote:

Not to be nitpicky, but wasn't Apollo Applications Program (AAP) renames
Skylab?

Mathew Ota

SkyLab was, iirc, pretty much the only surviving project to come out of
the AAP, starting out as the Apollo Telescope Mount, originally planning
to use either a modified LM or other small mission module docked in its
place to hold/drive a small human-operated orbital telescope.

Or, was the LRV descended from AAP also? I know its concept came from more
or less the same batch of concepts that brought out ideas for the LFV
(lunar flyer) extended-stay LMs, and the unmanned LM "truck".

--
"All over, people changing their votes,
along with their overcoats;
if Adolf Hitler flew in today,
they'd send a limousine anyway!" --the clash.
__________________________________________________ _________________
Mike Flugennock, flugennock at sinkers dot org
Mike Flugennock's Mikey'zine, dubya dubya dubya dot sinkers dot org

Jud McCranie wrote in message . ..
This is a question for opinions only, so please no flames.

Question: (In your opinion) what should manned space flight have done
after the Moon landings? (Shuttle? Space station? Apollo
Applications project? Moon base? On to Mars? Other?)

Hindsight is 20/20. As we move forward, we have to take steps that
seem possible and steps that appear will have some worthwhile results.
We learn from everything, but sometimes we learn that something else
might have been better. It's not an exact sceince until we know
everything about it.
--
Gene Seibel
Confessions of a Pilot - http://pad39a.com/publishing/
Because I fly, I envy no one.

On 28 Sep 2004 07:50:08 -0700, (Gene Seibel) wrote:

Hindsight is 20/20.

I know, the question was posed in hindsight. If I had to decide in
1970, I would have picked going to Mars. But now I'm not sure about
that.

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