How creationism justifies exterminations of Cathars?

In om,
Guth/IEIS~GASA spewed:

Guth idiocies snipped for sanity preservation.

I'm assuming your prescriptions have run out and you're short of cash for
refills, n'est ce pas?

Rick Sobie wrote:

When people are free, they act freely.

That includes the sum total of their abilities and behaviours
based on genetics and environmental conditions.

The original plan was to put pacifistic people on earth, don't you think?

To populate it with cultures that were somewhat non-violent in nature
and let them interbreed and evolve this world into a nice garden
like paradise, based on survival of the fittest, and natural selection.

But things happen, and sometimes people from other places and times and
dimensions end up on a planet such as this as well, and the original
seeding and terraforming efforts turn into a chaotic mix of some
pacifistic races, and some barbarous races, and then
you end up with the earth as we know it.

But keep in mind that nature herself, has done in this planet several
times in the past. Mass extinction events.

How can a civilization as this one, which is so different in so
many respects. So different in level of intelligence,
and level of ability and level of understanding, level of
behavioral inclinations, work together to improve their
chance for survival?

When this world promotes individualism, over the common good.

United we stand, devided we fall.

Are we united?

Then we will fall.


Is it just me, or do you also get the feeling that this guy watched
Babylon 5 _a lot_? ;-)

Pat

Rick Sobie wrote:


They may have learned how to build, not of sticks, but of bricks,
or 20 foot thick, or right into the living rock, and not be forever
rebuilding every forty years for instance.

They wouldn't live in the dark, they would live in paradise, with
high speed trams and trains and conveyor systems to take you
to the country, and their means of transportation would be non
polluting, and their basic needs, which is food and shelter
would be met.


And saw "Things To Come" a few times also.....


They would not individually send little probes here and there,
but rather they would combine their efforts and build huge
rockets and space stations and bases and develop a means
to preserve the race in the event of global catastrophe
etc.


....and "When Worlds Collide"...


They would not spend their lives watching football, or going to
school being taught things which really add up to nothing,


Like math and physics for instance; which as we all know, are nothing
but utter hogwash.

and which are not based on facts but mere spin etc.


You've got to spin the football if you want it to fly straight.


Something as simple as welfare.

Oh do people get up in a huff when they think that people are on
welfare.

Yet that is the baby step my friends, to ensure that people have
free quality food and shelter so they can pursue the higher things
of life and develop systems for mass transit, and mass medical
care, and proper organized government and liesure time,
and the pursuit of higher knowledge, art, music, science,
and technology.


In the perfect future world, no one works....robots perform all duties
that are beneath the contempt of humanity and its lofty thoughts...but
slowly, insidiously, man weakens as the robots become stronger and more
controlling! ...but from a secret underwater dome rises a champion for
humanity: Magnus! Trained by the first of the sentient robots- 1A, his
steel-strong hands will serve as a weapon in the fight to restore
humanity's freedom...as it struggles forth from beneath the cruel
oppression of its metallic slavemasters...such as H8...who pronounces
his name "Hate"!



With competition on the level that exists on earth, everyone
gets shot in the foot, the back, the shoulder, the thigh,
and crippled mentally and spirtually with stress and fatigue of
a life of robbing Perter to pay Paul, this world is trying to
commit suicide.


That's just plain bad gun safety; hell, next thing you know Perter will
shoot Paul's ear off or something.


As quickly as it can it is trying to destroy itself.


Nietzsche said: "Out of chaos _comes_ order". :-P

Howard Johnson
North Am

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:15:05 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Rick Sobie wrote:

....Who cares? You're a nut. Go back to masturbating in your rubber
room at the funny farm and leave us be.

Is it just me, or do you also get the feeling that this guy watched
Babylon 5 _a lot_? ;-)

....Pat, he's a nut. What *do* you want from him?


OM

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- General George S. Patton, Jr

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:57:32 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

In the perfect future world, no one works....robots perform all duties
that are beneath the contempt of humanity and its lofty thoughts...but
slowly, insidiously, man weakens as the robots become stronger and more
controlling! ...but from a secret underwater dome rises a champion for
humanity: Magnus! Trained by the first of the sentient robots- 1A, his
steel-strong hands will serve as a weapon in the fight to restore
humanity's freedom...as it struggles forth from beneath the cruel
oppression of its metallic slavemasters...such as H8...who pronounces
his name "Hate"!

....Let us also remember that there's a theory that Frank Herbert
ripped off the concepts that led to the Butlerian Jihad from Russ
Manning's magnum opus. And, IIRC, the time frame's just about right
:-)


OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

OM wrote:



Is it just me, or do you also get the feeling that this guy watched
Babylon 5 _a lot_? ;-)



...Pat, he's a nut. What *do* you want from him?




Recently it appears that the newsgroup has been "Chock Full O" Nuts".
I think we should get Daniel Min to caste a horoscope for the thing,
and see if these periodic outbreaks can be predicted by some baleful
conjunction or arrival of a melancholy hairy star- sounds to me like the
Dragon's Head is in Ouranus again, and needs to be withdrawn before it
does some serious mischief up there.

Pat

OM wrote:

...Let us also remember that there's a theory that Frank Herbert
ripped off the concepts that led to the Butlerian Jihad from Russ
Manning's magnum opus. And, IIRC, the time frame's just about right
:-)

I always thought that Leeja Clane looked more than a little like
Ann-Margret, and the time frame's right on that one also:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~HH8M-IOK...g/magnus4a.JPG A friend of
mine wondered if women wearing skirts was a good idea in a technology
where people people are directly under you in a antigravity
elevator...boy, I wish they would make that comic series into a movie or
two. Those Pol Robs were classics of robotic design:
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/magnusrf.jpg
Every time the Japanese say they've invented a human-looking robot, I
keep expecting one of those red glowing eyed things to come walking out
on stage saying: "Hello-my-name-is-1A."
The actual thing they came up with looks like a person in a spacesuit.

Pat

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:21:42 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Recently it appears that the newsgroup has been "Chock Full O" Nuts".

....You misunderstood the question, Pat. What do you want?

OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

OM wrote:

...You misunderstood the question, Pat. What do you want?


You *******...you've been pulling the wool over my eyes!
Get me the Raid insecticide! Next time I'll listen to Majel Barret's
warnings!

Pat

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 02:57:36 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

OM wrote:

...You misunderstood the question, Pat. What do you want?

You *******...you've been pulling the wool over my eyes!
Get me the Raid insecticide! Next time I'll listen to Majel Barret's
warnings!

....Nonono, the correct answer is:

"I'd like to live long enough to be there when they cut off the heads
of John Maxson, Brad Guth, Bob Haller, and pretty much every other
troll that's been bothering us over the years, and stick them on pikes
as a warning to the next ten generations that posting bogus conspiracy
theories and lunatic rantings of scientific impossibilities come with
too high a price. I want to look up into their lifeless eyes and wave
- like this. Can you and your associates arrange this for me, OM?"


OM

--

"No ******* ever won a war by dying for | http://www.io.com/~o_m
his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr