RTF briefing observation

Long time no write. Anyway I was watching the RTF briefing this
afternoon. Interesting that in order to project an upbeat and positive
image they've invented a new catchphrase: "conditionally closed". This
is applied to 5 of the 15 critical CAIB RTF recommendations to indicate
that they're not closed yet, but will be "real soon now".

In fact, none of the 15 CAIB critical RTF items have actually been
closed. Interesting.

I want to see shuttles launching again in the worst way. I hope they
pull it off.

Bruce Palmer wrote:

I want to see shuttles launching again in the worst way.

Interesting turn of phrase.

"launching ... in the worst way" is what NASA had been doing
all along: ignoring observed launch hazards because they hadn't
killed anyone yet, until they did.

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Bob Niland wrote:
Bruce Palmer wrote:

I want to see shuttles launching again in the worst way.

Interesting turn of phrase.

"launching ... in the worst way" is what NASA had been doing
all along: ignoring observed launch hazards because they hadn't
killed anyone yet, until they did.


That's not what I meant and I think you know it. Blow it out your ass.

"Bob Niland"

"launching ... in the worst way" is what NASA had been doing
all along:

NASA has a pretty good safety record, due in large part to not employing
morons like you.

bob haller wrote:
"launching ... in the worst way" is what NASA had been doing

all along:

NASA has a pretty good safety record, due in large part to not employing
morons like you.


EXCUSE ME! I think the safety board CLEARLY STATED that nasa management was
broken and wasnt attending to details and ignoring known safety issues to keep
on flying...

Whether NASA management was good, bad, green or blue doesn't change the
fact that, actually, NASA has a pretty good safety record.

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bp

Whether NASA management was good, bad, green or blue doesn't change the
fact that, actually, NASA has a pretty good safety record.

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bp

With too many close calls and putting schedule ahead of safety? IO think the
safety board ruled management was broken, and discouraged lower level workers
from exposing safety concerns.

Were just lucky more hadnt died...
..
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End the dangerous wasteful shuttle now before it kills any more astronauts....

"Jeff Findley"

Good compared to what? Up to this point, NASA's manned spaceflight
program
has been deadly several times with many other "close calls". Out of the
three accidents that have killed people, all have roots in human error.

Jeff

Name an accident that hasn't had it's roots in human error.

Jon

"Mary Shafer" wrote in message

As for space flight, there really isn't much in the way of reliable
numbers, since statistics only works on large sets of data, but STS
and Soyuz have comparable records.

Mary

And there's more to it than just safety of _flight_. Look at the Russian pad
disaster, the Brazilian pad disaster ...

Jon