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November 17th 04, 07:35 PM
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Air Piercing Screams
There are many good minds in this group. So i'd like
to get you thinking about something... Three obstacles to astronomy are 1) Daytime telescopes which study the Sun must be pointed at the Sun through an atmosphere filled with scattered photons. It follows that any study of the Sun is hampered by this so that the knowledge we can gain from Earthbound scopes is limited. (Scopes which enable us to study the Sun from space have other inherent limitations.) 2) Astronomers who study the night sky are often confounded by clouds and frustrated by fog. 3) Even on clear nights we are hampered by Earth's air, the atmosphere. This situation screams for a way to pierce the air. Why does seeing the sky have to so often be such a major problem? We have known about radiation which can penetrate skin to allow us to see bone structure that cannot be seen with our normal vision. So there must be some kind of radiation which can be incorporated into a telescope, and which can penetrate the atmosphere along with all of its distorting features. The end results would be... 1) The ability to see the Sun without the distortions produced by the atmosphere, by scattered photons. 2) The ability to point your telescope at a thick, fluffy cumulus or nimbus cloud, day or night, and to see the stars and planets beyond. 3) The ability to penetrate the air, the atmosphere, day and night, to see the stars minimizing any and all distortions caused by wind and weather, thicker atmosphere on the horizons, scattering of photons from city/industrial lighting. This could be the next great leap for astronomy. If you think it's possible, then let's work on it. If you don't think it's possible, then let's *still* work on it until we *make* it possible! happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Be very wary... For Life will zoom past ya, Pay heed when I say-- Tempus fugit ad astra! Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net 
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#2
November 17th 04, 07:48 PM
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"Painius" wrote in message
... There are many good minds in this group. So i'd like to get you thinking about something... Three obstacles to astronomy are 1) Daytime telescopes which study the Sun must be pointed at the Sun through an atmosphere filled with scattered photons. It follows that any study of the Sun is hampered by this so that the knowledge we can gain from Earthbound scopes is limited. (Scopes which enable us to study the Sun from space have other inherent limitations.) 2) Astronomers who study the night sky are often confounded by clouds and frustrated by fog. 3) Even on clear nights we are hampered by Earth's air, the atmosphere. This situation screams for a way to pierce the air. Why does seeing the sky have to so often be such a major problem? We have known about radiation which can penetrate skin to allow us to see bone structure that cannot be seen with our normal vision. So there must be some kind of radiation which can be incorporated into a telescope, and which can penetrate the atmosphere along with all of its distorting features. The end results would be... 1) The ability to see the Sun without the distortions produced by the atmosphere, by scattered photons. 2) The ability to point your telescope at a thick, fluffy cumulus or nimbus cloud, day or night, and to see the stars and planets beyond. 3) The ability to penetrate the air, the atmosphere, day and night, to see the stars minimizing any and all distortions caused by wind and weather, thicker atmosphere on the horizons, scattering of photons from city/industrial lighting. This could be the next great leap for astronomy. If you think it's possible, then let's work on it. If you don't think it's possible, then let's *still* work on it until we *make* it possible! happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Be very wary... For Life will zoom past ya, Pay heed when I say-- Tempus fugit ad astra! Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net Ever hear of "Radio Astronomy"???
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#3
November 24th 04, 07:01 AM
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"John Zinni" wrote in message
. .. "Painius" wrote in message ... There are many good minds in this group. So i'd like to get you thinking about something... Three obstacles to astronomy are 1) Daytime telescopes which study the Sun must be pointed at the Sun through an atmosphere filled with scattered photons. It follows that any study of the Sun is hampered by this so that the knowledge we can gain from Earthbound scopes is limited. (Scopes which enable us to study the Sun from space have other inherent limitations.) 2) Astronomers who study the night sky are often confounded by clouds and frustrated by fog. 3) Even on clear nights we are hampered by Earth's air, the atmosphere. This situation screams for a way to pierce the air. Why does seeing the sky have to so often be such a major problem? We have known about radiation which can penetrate skin to allow us to see bone structure that cannot be seen with our normal vision. So there must be some kind of radiation which can be incorporated into a telescope, and which can penetrate the atmosphere along with all of its distorting features. The end results would be... 1) The ability to see the Sun without the distortions produced by the atmosphere, by scattered photons. 2) The ability to point your telescope at a thick, fluffy cumulus or nimbus cloud, day or night, and to see the stars and planets beyond. 3) The ability to penetrate the air, the atmosphere, day and night, to see the stars minimizing any and all distortions caused by wind and weather, thicker atmosphere on the horizons, scattering of photons from city/industrial lighting. This could be the next great leap for astronomy. If you think it's possible, then let's work on it. If you don't think it's possible, then let's *still* work on it until we *make* it possible! happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Be very wary... For Life will zoom past ya, Pay heed when I say-- Tempus fugit ad astra! Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net Ever hear of "Radio Astronomy"??? Okay, John and Alexander -- mybad! Guess i didn't make the request clear. What i want to do is to be able to peer through a telescope and see the planets and stars -- anytime of day or night -- with or without cloud cover. And i want this to be available to backyarders. Can radio astronomy accomplish this? Is there a device like this on the market? If so, where can i get one? happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Lessons of time in the presents of rhymes... The essence of time is the presence of primes. Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net
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#4
November 24th 04, 02:17 PM
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"Painius" wrote in message
... Ever hear of "Radio Astronomy"??? Okay, John and Alexander -- mybad! Guess i didn't make the request clear. What i want to do is to be able to peer through a telescope and see the planets and stars -- anytime of day or night -- with or without cloud cover. And i want this to be available to backyarders. What i want is to win the lottery, but not just any lottery, one with a really big pot and I want my winnings to be tax free and any money i ever make on my winnings to also be tax free ... .... so what! Can radio astronomy accomplish this? Is there a device like this on the market? If so, where can i get one? happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Lessons of time in the presents of rhymes... The essence of time is the presence of primes. Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net
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#5
November 24th 04, 04:34 PM
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"John Zinni" wrote...
in message . .. "Painius" wrote in message ... Okay, John and Alexander -- mybad! Guess i didn't make the request clear. What i want to do is to be able to peer through a telescope and see the planets and stars -- anytime of day or night -- with or without cloud cover. And i want this to be available to backyarders. What i want is to win the lottery, but not just any lottery, one with a really big pot and I want my winnings to be tax free and any money i ever make on my winnings to also be tax free ... ... so what! So what? Sooo... I'm looking for something a little more helpful here, John. I think throwing money at the problem is a little premature, don't you? I was hoping to think-tank this idea and maybe come up with solutions to the seemingly insurmountable challenges. . So when you win the lottery, save your money until we come up with some useful ideas... *that's* what. happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Twinkle twinkle little star, I don't wonder what you are, What i *really* want to see... Is there someone there like me? Paine http://www.painellsworth.net
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#6
November 24th 04, 07:33 AM
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John Zinni wrote:
Ever hear of "Radio Astronomy"??? Painius wrote: Okay, John and Alexander -- mybad! Guess i didn't make the request clear. What i want to do is to be able to peer through a telescope and see the planets and stars -- anytime of day or night -- with or without cloud cover. And i want this to be available to backyarders. Can radio astronomy accomplish this? Is there a device like this on the market? If so, where can i get one? happy days and... starry starry nights! Double-A writes: Simple! Just build a scope with a barrel 50 miles high.
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#7
November 24th 04, 07:55 AM
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"Double-A" wrote in message...
om... John Zinni wrote: Ever hear of "Radio Astronomy"??? Painius wrote: Okay, John and Alexander -- mybad! Guess i didn't make the request clear. What i want to do is to be able to peer through a telescope and see the planets and stars -- anytime of day or night -- with or without cloud cover. And i want this to be available to backyarders. Can radio astronomy accomplish this? Is there a device like this on the market? If so, where can i get one? happy days and... starry starry nights! Double-A writes: Simple! Just build a scope with a barrel 50 miles high. That's GOOD, DA! At least YOU have got the idea. While a 50-mile-high scope is of course unwieldy and not realistic, the device must *simulate* this. It must provide an image of the sky that is as clear and distortion free as it would be if it *were* 50 miles high. happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Lessons of time in the presents of rhymes... The essence of time is the presence of primes. Indelibly yours, Paine http://www.painellsworth.net
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#8
November 17th 04, 08:16 PM
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Painius wrote:
[ ... ] So there must be some kind of radiation which can be incorporated into a telescope, and which can penetrate the atmosphere along with all of its distorting features. [ ... ] There are already such devices. Isn't that amazing?! Two most commonly used for the purpose types of "radiation" a (a) light, (b) radiowaves. Both are pretty much the same thing, and the difference is only in the wavelenght. - Alex
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#9
November 20th 04, 09:02 PM
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Hi Painius here in Florida people reported a few days ago a great flash
of light over the eastern horizon0on(atlantic ocean It is still a mystery . are there any clues? bert
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#10
November 19th 04, 09:55 AM
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This could be the next great leap for astronomy. If you think it's possible, then let's work on it. If you don't think it's possible, then let's *still* work on it until we *make* it possible! happy days and... starry starry nights! good idea! _______ Blog, or dog? Who knows. But if you see my lost pup, please ping me! A HREF="http://journals.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo"http://journal s.aol.com/virginiaz/DreamingofLeonardo/A
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