Expanding universe?

If some galaxies are moving toward each other(Andromeda and Milky Way)
within local groups and some clusters of groups move toward each other and
collide(as shown in Hubble deepest shots), then I presume that all super
clusters must be going away from each other. If not, at what point is the
universe expanding on a galactic scale? Or, do individual galaxies and
groups fly in various directions but mostly away from a center? Thank you
for your responses.

Correct me if I'm wrong but they're moving away from each other.

LJ

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Correct me if I'm wrong but they're moving away from each other.

You're wrong... Andromeda shows a blue redshift meaning is moving toward the
Milky Way.

Luigi Caselli

So the Milky Way is moving towards Andromeda also??

If not the Milky Way is moving away from Andromeda.

LJ

"Lloyd Jones" wrote in message
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Correct me if I'm wrong but they're moving away from each other.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._020507-1.html

BV.

"kjakja" schreef in bericht
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If some galaxies are moving toward each other(Andromeda and Milky Way)
within local groups and some clusters of groups move toward each other and
collide(as shown in Hubble deepest shots), then I presume that all super
clusters must be going away from each other. If not, at what point is the
universe expanding on a galactic scale? Or, do individual galaxies and
groups fly in various directions but mostly away from a center? Thank you
for your responses.


Galaxies are kinda randomly flying around, but on avarage away from each
other. Clusters also do. Not away from a center though, cause there is no
center
It seems we live in a universe with finite size, but without an edge.

Space that has 1,000 times more energy than all the rest needs more
elbow room(why not?) Bert

"kjakja" wrote in message...
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If some galaxies are moving toward each other(Andromeda and Milky Way)
within local groups and some clusters of groups move toward each other and
collide(as shown in Hubble deepest shots), then I presume that all super
clusters must be going away from each other. If not, at what point is the
universe expanding on a galactic scale? Or, do individual galaxies and
groups fly in various directions but mostly away from a center? Thank you
for your responses.

'Lo Kjakja --

Out of all the galaxies we can see, only a few are moving
"toward" each other exhibiting a blue shift. The vast majority
of galaxies we see show a red shift meaning they are moving
away from Earth.

Keep in mind that a blue shift can mean anything from a
galaxy moving to the left (not directly at us) from us up to 90
degrees, almost coming at us but off to the left, coming
directly at us, almost coming at us but off to the right, or
moving to the right from us up to 90 degrees. Blue shifts and
red shifts can only tell us radial motion and cannot give us a
clue about lateral motion.

Also note that the farther out we look into the Universe, the
longer ago in the past we are looking.

So if we peer out and see great expansion at several billion
light years distance, then this tells us that this expansion may
have taken place several billion years ago. There is so far
no way to tell what may be happening right now at this
moment several billions of light years away from us.

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:45:19 GMT, "Painius"
wrote:

"kjakja" wrote in message...
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If some galaxies are moving toward each other(Andromeda and Milky Way)
within local groups and some clusters of groups move toward each other and
collide(as shown in Hubble deepest shots), then I presume that all super
clusters must be going away from each other. If not, at what point is the
universe expanding on a galactic scale? Or, do individual galaxies and
groups fly in various directions but mostly away from a center? Thank you
for your responses.

'Lo Kjakja --

Out of all the galaxies we can see, only a few are moving
"toward" each other exhibiting a blue shift. The vast majority
of galaxies we see show a red shift meaning they are moving
away from Earth.

Odd how astronomers tell us the universe is EXPANDING, i.e. almost all
the other galaxies/stars are moving AWAY FROM us and EACH OTHER, yet
they often invoke "colliding galaxies" as explanations for various
astrophysical phenomenon!
How DO objects that are flying AWAY FROM each other manage to get in
collisions?
Are we being lied to?

In message , Chuck Farley
writes
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 12:45:19 GMT, "Painius"
wrote:

"kjakja" wrote in message...
...

If some galaxies are moving toward each other(Andromeda and Milky Way)
within local groups and some clusters of groups move toward each other and
collide(as shown in Hubble deepest shots), then I presume that all super
clusters must be going away from each other. If not, at what point is the
universe expanding on a galactic scale? Or, do individual galaxies and
groups fly in various directions but mostly away from a center? Thank you
for your responses.

'Lo Kjakja --

Out of all the galaxies we can see, only a few are moving
"toward" each other exhibiting a blue shift. The vast majority
of galaxies we see show a red shift meaning they are moving
away from Earth.

Odd how astronomers tell us the universe is EXPANDING, i.e. almost all
the other galaxies/stars are moving AWAY FROM us and EACH OTHER, yet
they often invoke "colliding galaxies" as explanations for various
astrophysical phenomenon!
How DO objects that are flying AWAY FROM each other manage to get in
collisions?
Are we being lied to?


Idiot. Collisions occur in clusters of galaxies, where they aren't
moving apart. Like "our" galaxy and M31. And only KOOKS post in capital
letters.
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