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Old August 11th 04, 03:16 AM
Jonathan
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Yellowstone mudpot
http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/th...ages/05402.jpg



Endurance mudpot
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG



Endurance is/was a hot spring. And not all that long ago from appearances.


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Old August 11th 04, 04:56 AM
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
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Yellowstone mudpot

http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/th...ages/05402.jpg



Endurance mudpot

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG



Endurance is/was a hot spring. And not all that long ago from appearances.


Ah, but never judge a book by it's cover.


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not the fifteen GWB proposes.
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Old August 11th 04, 07:05 AM
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"Jonathan" wrote in message ...
Yellowstone mudpot
http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/th...ages/05402.jpg



Endurance mudpot
http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG



Endurance is/was a hot spring. And not all that long ago from appearances.


Jonathan

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Cool. Thanks for sharing!

http://chucklysaght.envy.nu/MyDailyRant.html
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Old August 11th 04, 10:47 AM
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"Alan Erskine" wrote in message
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"Jonathan" wrote in message
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Yellowstone mudpot


http://www.nps.gov/yell/slidefile/th...ages/05402.jpg



Endurance mudpot


http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG



Endurance is/was a hot spring. And not all that long ago from appearances.


Ah, but never judge a book by it's cover.




Learn to trust your own eyes, and the obvious. Besides, Yellowstone
has been used by the Nasa team as a comparison. And the
most respected astrobiologist with Nasa has his specialty
in ...guess what...hot spring environments.


Dr. Farmer's Online Publication Reprints
http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/


"Currently, Jack is the Director and Principal Investigator of the NASA funded
Astrobiology Program at Arizona State University, he leads the NASA Astrobiology
Institute's Mars Focus Group and is on the Executive Board of the NASA Astrobiology
Institute. He holds appointments on various NASA committees including the Space
Science Advisory Committee, Mars Exploration Program Analysis Group,
Instrumentation for Mars Exploration Working Group, Mars Ad hoc Science
Team, Mars 2003 Landing Site Steering Committee, Mars 2005 Orbiter Mission
Science Definition Team. He has also previously served on NASA's Solar System
Exploration Sub-Committee, JPL's Microrobotics Science Advisory Group, the
Solar System Exploration Roadmap Development Team, the Mars 2001-2005
Science Working Group, the Mars 2001 Science Definition Team
and..."





Since Nasa only releases pictures, no data anymore, such
comparisons will have to do. All the earlier chemistry
releases are also consistent with such an environment
especially the high amounts of sulfates. But Nasa did release
one spectra several months ago. The blueberry bowl
spectra, guess what it matches?





A Mossbauer investigation of iron-rich terrestrial
hydrothermal vent systems: Lessons for Mars exploration

Jack D. Farmer 2
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, California


4. Siderite as a Component of an Ancient Stromatolite

"Mossbauer spectra at two temperatures of a freshly slabbed
portion of a 2.09 Ga (Early Proterozoic) hematic chert stro-
matolite from the Gunflint Iron Formation
The sample investigated was freshly slabbed for the Mossbauer
transmission measurement, so the iron carbonate is interior
to the native stromatolite rock."

(Fig 26 page 16, please compare with blueberry bowl chart)
http://geology.asu.edu/jfarmer/pubs/pdfs/mossbauer.pdf



A Bowl of Hematite-Rich 'Berries'
Mar 18, 2004

"This graph shows two spectra of outcrop regions near the
Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity's landing site.
The blue line shows data for a region dubbed "Berry Bowl,"
which contains a handful of the sphere-like grains dubbed
"blueberries."

Blueberry Bowl chart
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/mer2004/rove.../image-19.html




And a picture ...is...worth a thousand words.



The Stromatolites of Stella Maris, Bahamas
http://www.theflyingcircus.com/stella_maris.html

Endurance Crater
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...9P1987R0M1.JPG









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Old August 11th 04, 07:42 PM
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Jonathan wrote:

And a picture ...is...worth a thousand words.


They (Spielberg & Cruise) are remaking 'War of the Worlds,' Jonny. At
the rate you keep propagating your knowledge, it won't be
science-fiction anymore by the time they're done filming.
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Old August 11th 04, 11:53 PM
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"Chandra P. Das" wrote in message
news:QMtSc.9236$dG.2400@trndny02...
Jonathan wrote:

And a picture ...is...worth a thousand words.


They (Spielberg & Cruise) are remaking 'War of the Worlds,' Jonny. At
the rate you keep propagating your knowledge, it won't be
science-fiction anymore by the time they're done filming.




And sarcasm doesn't play well on the net. I provided some
spectra that is pretty convincing, did you look at it?

Of course not, ignorance is bliss, as you so competently
demonstrate.


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Old August 12th 04, 12:42 AM
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Jonathan wrote:

"Chandra P. Das" wrote in message
news:QMtSc.9236$dG.2400@trndny02...

Jonathan wrote:


And a picture ...is...worth a thousand words.


They (Spielberg & Cruise) are remaking 'War of the Worlds,' Jonny. At
the rate you keep propagating your knowledge, it won't be
science-fiction anymore by the time they're done filming.





And sarcasm doesn't play well on the net. I provided some
spectra that is pretty convincing, did you look at it?


Stop trolling the sci groups, Jon, that's enough already.

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Old August 13th 04, 06:57 AM
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In article , "Jonathan"
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Endurance mudpot

http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG


Inside the shadow of the outcrop, in the above image,
I see a fainter outline that appears to be a reflection
of the outcrop. Is that what you meant to point out?

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Old August 15th 04, 11:35 PM
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"Paul Morris" wrote in message
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In article , "Jonathan"
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Endurance mudpot


http://qt.exploratorium.edu/mars/opp...1P2397R1M1.JPG


Inside the shadow of the outcrop, in the above image,
I see a fainter outline that appears to be a reflection
of the outcrop. Is that what you meant to point out?



Not really, I was referring to the very distinctive erosion
pattern seen in the shadow edge, the jagged shape.




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