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Old April 27th 04, 01:25 PM
Benign Vanilla
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Suppose one of our current missions finds water on another solar body, be it
a planet or a moon. And let's suppose it also finds near breathable, or
breathable air somewhere. That would be very exciting, but in reality how
would we handle it? Let's say Cassini find one of Saturn's moons to be a
darker, colder version of earth. Do you think NASA would immediately set up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

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Old April 27th 04, 05:55 PM
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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Suppose one of our current missions finds water on another solar body, be

it
a planet or a moon. And let's suppose it also finds near breathable, or
breathable air somewhere. That would be very exciting, but in reality how
would we handle it? Let's say Cassini find one of Saturn's moons to be a
darker, colder version of earth. Do you think NASA would immediately set

up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

Until we find out how to keep people physically and mentally healthy, no one
will be going anywhere far, certainly not to Saturn. Mars is even touch and
go. We might get people there but they might be very mentally ill by the
time they get there.

Patience and research.

O'Ryan Wells.


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Old April 27th 04, 09:51 PM
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"O'Ryan Wells" wrote in message
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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.. Do you think NASA would immediately set
up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

Until we find out how to keep people physically and mentally healthy, no

one
will be going anywhere far, certainly not to Saturn. Mars is even touch

and
go. We might get people there but they might be very mentally ill by the
time they get there.

Patience and research.

O'Ryan Wells.


I am curious why you think mental illness would be the result. I can see
where there are challenges to keeping the skeletal system fit, and I
concede that radiation shielding is a nut that may need cracking. For the
life of me I don't understand why the trip wouldresult in derangement.

chuck petterson
inner space traveler



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Old April 27th 04, 10:00 PM
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Do you think NASA would immediately set up
a manned mission? send settlers out?


No. Nasa is like european royalty in the 15th century. Sure, they pay for
exploration, but the commercial ventures are what resulted in colonization.

Once man has a place to go be rest assured you will be able to buy a ticket
to get there. Once a vein of any mineral is located, someone else will pay
for you to go there, or at least subsidize the cost.

You don't see masses of people "traveling". You do see masses of people
enroute somewhere. Nobody would be interested on starting out on an
indefinate voyage to an unknown place when the journey would take thousands
of generations to get to the nearest star. Nobody will be interested in
doing this until there is some extreme push factor. The pull factor will
always be the weaker motive.

chuck petterson
inner space traveler


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Old April 28th 04, 12:46 AM
Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th
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"Benign Vanilla" wrote in
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Suppose one of our current missions finds water on another solar body,
be it a planet or a moon. And let's suppose it also finds near
breathable, or breathable air somewhere. That would be very exciting,
but in reality how would we handle it? Let's say Cassini find one of
Saturn's moons to be a darker, colder version of earth. Do you think
NASA would immediately set up a manned mission? send settlers out?


Dead on arrival. There are no moons in the Solar System with a breathable
atmosphere. This is already well known.

LK.





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Old April 28th 04, 04:14 AM
Eric
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spam this wrote:


"O'Ryan Wells" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

. Do you think NASA would immediately set
up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

Until we find out how to keep people physically and mentally healthy, no

one
will be going anywhere far, certainly not to Saturn. Mars is even touch

and
go. We might get people there but they might be very mentally ill by the
time they get there.

Patience and research.

O'Ryan Wells.


I am curious why you think mental illness would be the result. I can see
where there are challenges to keeping the skeletal system fit, and I
concede that radiation shielding is a nut that may need cracking. For the
life of me I don't understand why the trip wouldresult in derangement.

chuck petterson
inner space traveler

Hmmm, sit in a small tin can for 9 months.. Yeah, mental illness or else go
blind playing with your pud.
Eric
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Old April 28th 04, 05:58 AM
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"spam this" wrote in message
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"O'Ryan Wells" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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. Do you think NASA would immediately set
up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

Until we find out how to keep people physically and mentally healthy, no

one
will be going anywhere far, certainly not to Saturn. Mars is even touch

and
go. We might get people there but they might be very mentally ill by the
time they get there.

Patience and research.

O'Ryan Wells.


I am curious why you think mental illness would be the result. I can see
where there are challenges to keeping the skeletal system fit, and I
concede that radiation shielding is a nut that may need cracking. For the
life of me I don't understand why the trip wouldresult in derangement.

chuck petterson
inner space traveler


Obviously you haven't watched enough Twilight Zone.


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Old April 28th 04, 01:34 PM
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"Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th" wrote in message
7.6...
"Benign Vanilla" wrote in
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Suppose one of our current missions finds water on another solar body,
be it a planet or a moon. And let's suppose it also finds near
breathable, or breathable air somewhere. That would be very exciting,
but in reality how would we handle it? Let's say Cassini find one of
Saturn's moons to be a darker, colder version of earth. Do you think
NASA would immediately set up a manned mission? send settlers out?


Dead on arrival. There are no moons in the Solar System with a breathable
atmosphere. This is already well known.


Dude...I was speculating. Look up Hypothetical in your dictionary.

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Old April 28th 04, 01:35 PM
Benign Vanilla
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"spam this" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
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Do you think NASA would immediately set up
a manned mission? send settlers out?


No. Nasa is like european royalty in the 15th century. Sure, they pay for
exploration, but the commercial ventures are what resulted in

colonization.

Once man has a place to go be rest assured you will be able to buy a

ticket
to get there. Once a vein of any mineral is located, someone else will

pay
for you to go there, or at least subsidize the cost.

You don't see masses of people "traveling". You do see masses of people
enroute somewhere. Nobody would be interested on starting out on an
indefinate voyage to an unknown place when the journey would take

thousands
of generations to get to the nearest star. Nobody will be interested in
doing this until there is some extreme push factor. The pull factor will
always be the weaker motive.


Unfortunately you are probably correct. Although, with Bush pushing for
people on the moon and mars, how much political pull could there be to be
the first country to colonize another solar body, especially if that body
already had an atmosphere that was breathable? That would certainly simplify
things when we got there.

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www.iheartmypond.com



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Old April 28th 04, 10:08 PM
O'Ryan Wells
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"spam this" wrote in message
...

"O'Ryan Wells" wrote in message
...

"Benign Vanilla" wrote in message
...

. Do you think NASA would immediately set
up
a manned mission? send settlers out?

Until we find out how to keep people physically and mentally healthy, no

one
will be going anywhere far, certainly not to Saturn. Mars is even touch

and
go. We might get people there but they might be very mentally ill by the
time they get there.

Patience and research.

O'Ryan Wells.


I am curious why you think mental illness would be the result. I can see
where there are challenges to keeping the skeletal system fit, and I
concede that radiation shielding is a nut that may need cracking. For the
life of me I don't understand why the trip wouldresult in derangement.

chuck petterson
inner space traveler

Ever heard of cabin fever? I think it would be a serious problem on long
flights. I might be wrong but claustrophobia and lack of stimulation are
possible results.

As I said before patience, not now but later we might be up to it.

O'Ryan Wells.


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