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hi, excuse my ignorance and enlighten me as to:
Do all stars spin around their centre? Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? What effect might such movement, if its possible, have on circling bodies in its solar system? What would be the effect, if any, if a star stopped spinning? (both to itself and the circling bodies in its solar system? Just curious and always willing to learn. Thanks. |
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Yes, all stars rotate on their axes. Think of it as the residual angular
momentum of the nebula that formed them. Whether a star spins or not generally has little affect on objects orbiting it (the gravitation force between them is only dependent on their masses and their separation). But lack of spin would mean no magnetic field and, therefore, much less activity on the star's surface, in it's corona, and in its solar wind. At least that's my guess. "Bhads" wrote in message ... hi, excuse my ignorance and enlighten me as to: Do all stars spin around their centre? Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? What effect might such movement, if its possible, have on circling bodies in its solar system? What would be the effect, if any, if a star stopped spinning? (both to itself and the circling bodies in its solar system? Just curious and always willing to learn. Thanks. |
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To spin "off-center" as you put it, would require that the off-center spot
be the center of mass. For example, the lighter crust is a good deal thicker on the far side. In effect, this places the center of mass somewhat displaced from dead center. It is closer to earth. It remains that way because the moon has cooled and semi-rigid. But in a star, there is not rigidity. Even if you could reach in an yank the core over to one side, it would drift back and it would be centered again. If you had a rigid star with an off-center center of mass? The effects would be very minimal. The planets rotate around the point that is the center of mass of the star and the planet, which is still near the star's physical center. If it stopped spinning? That might be interesting. If we are correct, you would no longer be generating the magnetic field, which affects quite a bit. And, it would change some of convection, or mixing of different depths. This would change the evolutionary sequence somewhat, but I'm not sure to what degree. Nice question Clear Skies Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ ************************************************** ********** "Bhads" wrote in message ... hi, excuse my ignorance and enlighten me as to: Do all stars spin around their centre? Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? What effect might such movement, if its possible, have on circling bodies in its solar system? What would be the effect, if any, if a star stopped spinning? (both to itself and the circling bodies in its solar system? Just curious and always willing to learn. Thanks. |
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:48:30 +0000, Bhads wrote:
Do all stars spin around their centre? Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? What effect might such movement, if As far as I am aware, a wobbling star is one of the major hints astronomers have of planets circling it. |
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"Bhads" wrote in message...
... hi, excuse my ignorance and enlighten me as to: Do all stars spin around their centre? Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? What effect might such movement, if its possible, have on circling bodies in its solar system? What would be the effect, if any, if a star stopped spinning? (both to itself and the circling bodies in its solar system? Just curious and always willing to learn. Thanks. 'Lo Bhads -- Scientists believe that stars can form by the condensing of gases. As the gases come together and become more and more dense, they tend to rotate faster and faster. This is a conservation of angular momentum that is similar to when a skater spins around and brings the arms closer and closer to his or her body. This causes the skater to spin faster and faster. Now, suppose the condensing protostar (not yet a real star) spins SO fast, that it starts throwing off great amounts of materials mostly from its quickly moving equator. The more material that is thrown off, the slower the protostar spins. This would be because the momentum (angular) is being imparted to the thrown off materials, which are spinning and whirling around, bumping into each other and forming planets and such. These spinning planets grow and grow, and then one day the protostar ignites. It becomes a "fusor," a true star. The new star then starts blowing off a tremendous "stellar wind" made of particles like protons and electrons. (We call this the "solar wind" in our system.) This wind blows most of the smaller materials in the equatorial disk far away, while the larger of the materials remain behind and orbit the star. These large materials can be big enough to cause the star to wobble a bit depending upon how big they are compared to the star. A planet like Jupiter would cause a large wobble because the Sun and Jupiter revolve around a center of gravity that is about 460,000 miles out from the center of the Sun. Each planet in our Solar System affects our Sun this way, but to a lesser degree than Jupiter does. So the wobble or as you call it, the wiggle, is *caused* by the planets orbiting the star, and the movement is therefore very complex. For a star to stop spinning is a difficult thing for me to see. I have read that there are binary stars that are tidally locked and spin around each other like Pluto and Charon do, always with the same side facing each other. But they are still rotating with the same period as they revolve around each other. Our Sun doesn't rotate very fast because it gave up nearly all of its spinning momentum to the planets and the asteroids early on, possibly even before it actually became a fusor. So while a very slow-spinning and wobbling star would be a good candidate to have a complex stellar system of planets, it is hard for me to picture a star that has completely stopped spinning. It seems to me to be a very unlikely state for a star to be in. As some others have mentioned, the greatest effects would be those on the star's magnetic field, and also possibly a bad effect on any life that may have evolved in the system. happy days and... starry starry nights! -- Are you lonely? Are you only one of many lonely ones? We are only Oh! so lonely for we tend the only suns. Paine Ellsworth |
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Hi Bhads All objects spin in our universe. It is hypothesised some
blackholes don't spin(a weak theory) The word spin is best used for the micro realm,and rotate for the macro. Mars rotates at a speed very close to Earth. Jupiter is interesting for it rotates very fast. I wonder why? Bert |
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![]() Hey, thanks for the replies, guys. The reason I asked: I was imagining a scenario where the distance between solid planets and their sun might have enough gravitational variation to constantly churn the geography of the circling planets; constant volcanic eruptions, shifting land masses, rising and falling mountains, lava flowing in fresh cracks, etc. Perhaps such a sight might exist in a binary system, if planets could form and survive in a safe orbit in such a place? Cheers. |
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The reason I asked:
I was imagining a scenario where the distance between solid planets and their sun might have enough gravitational variation to constantly churn the geography of the circling planets; constant volcanic eruptions, shifting land masses, rising and falling mountains, lava flowing in fresh cracks, etc. Perhaps such a sight might exist in a binary system, if planets could form and survive in a safe orbit in such a place? Take a look at Io to see this in action. To do this requires the planet be very close so the difference in gravitational attraction differs from one side of the planet to the other. Not quite Roche limit, but you get the idea. Clear Skies Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ ************************************ |
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In Io's case (and it is the most volcanically active object in the solar
system), I don't think it's so much the tidal action of Jupiter alone as the continual tug of war between Jupiter on one side and the other Galilean moons on the other. "Chuck Taylor" wrote in message ... The reason I asked: I was imagining a scenario where the distance between solid planets and their sun might have enough gravitational variation to constantly churn the geography of the circling planets; constant volcanic eruptions, shifting land masses, rising and falling mountains, lava flowing in fresh cracks, etc. Perhaps such a sight might exist in a binary system, if planets could form and survive in a safe orbit in such a place? Take a look at Io to see this in action. To do this requires the planet be very close so the difference in gravitational attraction differs from one side of the planet to the other. Not quite Roche limit, but you get the idea. Clear Skies Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ ************************************ |
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![]() "Bhads" wrote in message ... hi, excuse my ignorance and enlighten me as to: Do all stars spin around their centre? Of course, but center is very subjective term and can be defined as center of spin.... And spin can be once every few billion years... Do some stars . . . erm . . . wiggle around some off-centre spot? All does that, i suspect most undetectably small though. Think of this way, earth with all the mountains etc. are smoother than just about smoother than any common man made things if you scale. What effect might such movement, if its possible, have on circling bodies in its solar system? Depends on how big such wiggle is. I doubt it has much impact though since wiggle is probably around center ![]() sun and even such huge wiggle has minimal impact. Remember that we can barely detect planets outside of our solar system. What would be the effect, if any, if a star stopped spinning? (both to itself and the circling bodies in its solar system? Anything.... Basically it take act of god so anything it wishes. Remember, if it spins once per few billion years it is still spinning. Also imagine basket ball dropped from 100 feet and keep on bouncing and never move rather than slightly roll toward end. Just curious and always willing to learn. Thanks. |
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