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Old July 1st 04, 05:02 AM
Mike Thomas
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If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will really be a wonder
as to how so many
Mars probes have failed considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.


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Old July 1st 04, 05:14 AM
Sam Wormley
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Mike Thomas wrote:

If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will
really be a wonder as to how so many Mars probes have failed
considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.


Big temperature and gas differences!
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Old July 1st 04, 05:14 AM
Sam Wormley
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Mike Thomas wrote:

If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will
really be a wonder as to how so many Mars probes have failed
considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.


Big temperature and gas differences!
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Old July 1st 04, 05:18 AM
Sam Wormley
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Mike Thomas wrote:

If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will
really be a wonder as to how so many Mars probes have failed
considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.


Big temperature and gas differences!
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Old July 1st 04, 05:18 AM
Sam Wormley
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Mike Thomas wrote:

If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will
really be a wonder as to how so many Mars probes have failed
considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.


Big temperature and gas differences!
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Old July 1st 04, 06:44 PM
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"Jim Hewitt" jim_hewitt@spam begone.hp.com wrote in message
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[snip]

But I don't understand your reference to Titan's atmosphere - it's not

like
the Martian atmosphere killed the failed Martian probes. _Unless_ you
consider burning up in the atmosphere due to incorrect trajectory caused

by
other failures, which could still happen to Huygens, for example, if

it's
parachutes fail to deploy.

So I fail to see your point. Do you want to rephrase you statement?

Jim


[snip]

If I may interject ...

It is arguable that Beagle 2 may have died and Spirit nearly did so
because the atmosphere was not sufficiently characterized so that the
landers would not impact at too high of a velocity.

- Anthony


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Old July 1st 04, 06:44 PM
Anthony Garcia
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"Jim Hewitt" jim_hewitt@spam begone.hp.com wrote in message
...

[snip]

But I don't understand your reference to Titan's atmosphere - it's not

like
the Martian atmosphere killed the failed Martian probes. _Unless_ you
consider burning up in the atmosphere due to incorrect trajectory caused

by
other failures, which could still happen to Huygens, for example, if

it's
parachutes fail to deploy.

So I fail to see your point. Do you want to rephrase you statement?

Jim


[snip]

If I may interject ...

It is arguable that Beagle 2 may have died and Spirit nearly did so
because the atmosphere was not sufficiently characterized so that the
landers would not impact at too high of a velocity.

- Anthony


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Old July 1st 04, 06:44 PM
Jim Hewitt
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This is begging the question. You assume that the Huygens probe will make it
to Titan successfully, then you marvel that so many probes to Mars failed.
The Titan probe is only half way there and there are still many things that
could go wrong - though I hope mightily that they won't.

Even if the probe survives its descent, it will not survive very long on
Titan - it wasn't designed to.

But I don't understand your reference to Titan's atmosphere - it's not like
the Martian atmosphere killed the failed Martian probes. _Unless_ you
consider burning up in the atmosphere due to incorrect trajectory caused by
other failures, which could still happen to Huygens, for example, if it's
parachutes fail to deploy.

So I fail to see your point. Do you want to rephrase you statement?

Jim

"Mike Thomas" wrote in message
news:t1MEc.34503$l6.30096@clgrps12...
If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will really be a

wonder
as to how so many
Mars probes have failed considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.




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Old July 1st 04, 06:44 PM
Jim Hewitt
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Default Titan's paradox

This is begging the question. You assume that the Huygens probe will make it
to Titan successfully, then you marvel that so many probes to Mars failed.
The Titan probe is only half way there and there are still many things that
could go wrong - though I hope mightily that they won't.

Even if the probe survives its descent, it will not survive very long on
Titan - it wasn't designed to.

But I don't understand your reference to Titan's atmosphere - it's not like
the Martian atmosphere killed the failed Martian probes. _Unless_ you
consider burning up in the atmosphere due to incorrect trajectory caused by
other failures, which could still happen to Huygens, for example, if it's
parachutes fail to deploy.

So I fail to see your point. Do you want to rephrase you statement?

Jim

"Mike Thomas" wrote in message
news:t1MEc.34503$l6.30096@clgrps12...
If the probe to Titan survives and is a success this will really be a

wonder
as to how so many
Mars probes have failed considering the obvious atmosphere of Titan.




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Old July 1st 04, 08:58 PM
Jim Hewitt
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"Anthony Garcia" wrote in message
. com...

"Jim Hewitt" jim_hewitt@spam begone.hp.com wrote in message
...

[snip]

But I don't understand your reference to Titan's atmosphere - it's not

like
the Martian atmosphere killed the failed Martian probes. _Unless_ you
consider burning up in the atmosphere due to incorrect trajectory caused

by
other failures, which could still happen to Huygens, for example, if

it's
parachutes fail to deploy.

So I fail to see your point. Do you want to rephrase you statement?

Jim


[snip]

If I may interject ...

It is arguable that Beagle 2 may have died and Spirit nearly did so
because the atmosphere was not sufficiently characterized so that the
landers would not impact at too high of a velocity.


Good point. Thank you - now I understand the original poster's question and
concern.

Jim


 




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