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Old January 27th 04, 06:57 AM
Ed
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However, the WMAP value was not determined
directly from the data, but rather by comparison
against theoretical models and picking the
model with the parameters which gave the
best fit. This strikes me as kind of "cheating,"
in the sense that all models are by necessity
a simplification, and there are underlying
assumptions which may or may not be valid.

The Hubble value, OTOH, is derived from
Cepheid variables so constitutes a direct
measurement. They only assumption being
made is that the calibration scale for Cepheids
being used is correct.

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Old January 27th 04, 06:57 AM
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

However, the WMAP value was not determined
directly from the data, but rather by comparison
against theoretical models and picking the
model with the parameters which gave the
best fit. This strikes me as kind of "cheating,"
in the sense that all models are by necessity
a simplification, and there are underlying
assumptions which may or may not be valid.

The Hubble value, OTOH, is derived from
Cepheid variables so constitutes a direct
measurement. They only assumption being
made is that the calibration scale for Cepheids
being used is correct.

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Old January 27th 04, 06:57 AM
Ed
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

However, the WMAP value was not determined
directly from the data, but rather by comparison
against theoretical models and picking the
model with the parameters which gave the
best fit. This strikes me as kind of "cheating,"
in the sense that all models are by necessity
a simplification, and there are underlying
assumptions which may or may not be valid.

The Hubble value, OTOH, is derived from
Cepheid variables so constitutes a direct
measurement. They only assumption being
made is that the calibration scale for Cepheids
being used is correct.

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Old January 27th 04, 08:29 AM
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

Mike Simmons
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Old January 27th 04, 08:29 AM
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

Mike Simmons
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Old January 27th 04, 08:29 AM
Mike Simmons
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

Mike Simmons
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Old January 27th 04, 08:45 AM
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In article , Mike Simmons writes:
Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

It is, in appropriate units. Now you just have to find the units.
And the question.

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| chances are he is doing just the same"
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Old January 27th 04, 08:45 AM
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

In article , Mike Simmons writes:
Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

It is, in appropriate units. Now you just have to find the units.
And the question.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
| chances are he is doing just the same"
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Old January 27th 04, 08:45 AM
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Default The Hubble Space Telescope's prime mission, was to determine...

In article , Mike Simmons writes:
Sam Wormley wrote:

After years of data the answer
from Hubble is 72 km/s/Mpc!


I thought the answer to the ultimate question regarding the Universe was
42.

It is, in appropriate units. Now you just have to find the units.
And the question.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
| chances are he is doing just the same"
 




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