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Old January 14th 15, 01:39 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Providing information such as the reason why a leap day rotation provides the closest rotation that fits inside 4 orbital circumstances and circuits of the Earth around the Sun shouldn't be met with graffiti considering that the prevalent notion is that there are 1465 rotations within the same geometry or 1465 rotations in 1461 days.

" During one orbit around the Sun, Earth rotates about its own axis 366.26 times " Main 'Earth' article Wikipedia

The technical issues are genuinely enjoyable including where some really poor conclusions were drawn such as chasing celestial sphere rotation as equivalent to a rotating Earth . The external references for the Earth's position in space and the number of times the planet turns are the same as the ones hijacked by stellar circumpolar motion insofar as the line-of-sight observation of the first appearance Sirius,the central Sun and the orbital motion of the Earth are the only valid references possible for determining but the daily and orbital characteristics of the Earth and the anchor for human timekeeping.

I alluded to the issue of authority in the thread that just got sprayed with graffiti and feel I must do so again. There is no authority presently able to handle the innovations and modifications nor do I attempt to put, in Christian terms, new wine into old wineskins - a less combative saying than throwing pearls to swine. I have made it clear that the rules governing the translation of observations into context of planetary dynamics, solar system structure, cause and effect between astronomy and terrestrial sciences have no stable background either organizational or educational presently but that shouldn't prevent individuals from expanding the themes.

"Genius is a talent for producing something for which no determinate rule can be given, not a predisposition consisting of a skill for something that can be learned by following some rule or other. " Kant

It may be fine for empiricists to declare a historical figurehead to be a genius because their agenda looks unintelligible to the normal person however when the normal person is faced with impossibilities passed off and taught as 'fact' then it is up to each individual set themselves up as their own authority in the absence of any correcting organization or authority. One of the most surprising things is that empiricists themselves haven't a grip on what Newton attempted to do and how he did it but certainly have exploited his idiosyncratic approach and adopted it as a 'scientific method'.

A person chanting voodoo and bluffing using accepted terms associated with a dubious 'genius' creation may receive a reputation and even a salary for appearing to be authoritative but this sense of generational entitlements means nothing when genuine astronomy is up for inspection and tangible experiences there to be explained. In this respect, who is an expert in time,space and motion when the prevalent notion is a mismatch between rotations and days ?.

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Old January 14th 15, 03:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Readers here know full well that if you look due north at midnight on Dec 31st the sky doesn't look exactly the same at it does on June 30th. It only requires the most simple of experiments to prove this but Gerald would have readers believe that he hasn't made this observation himself. If, and it is a big if, he believes what he wrote then he either cannot accept the evidence of his own eyes in which case he needs immediate and significant help or he is, as many have suggested, some combination of a troll and a sufferer from autism. Either way we cannot help him

If you look through the archives of this and other groups you will see that Gerald has been campaigning for years to get his ideas accepted. I don't know what he **actually believes** as opposed to what he **claims to believe** but I do know that from time to time he lets his guard down and posts his version of "facts" rather than the usual convoluted garbage. Each time he does this the idiocy of communicating with him become clearer.
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Old January 14th 15, 10:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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martin_piers_nicholson:

Readers here know full well that if you look due north at midnight on Dec
31st the sky doesn't look exactly the same at it does on June 30th. It only
requires the most simple of experiments to prove this but Gerald would have
readers believe that he hasn't made this observation himself. If, and it is a
big if, he believes what he wrote then he either cannot accept the evidence
of his own eyes in which case he needs immediate and significant help or he
is, as many have suggested, some combination of a troll and a sufferer from
autism. Either way we cannot help him


Autism? You suspect this after having examined him? You're a physician?
Can't help him? You can't help yourself. You're drawn to his posts,
drawn to diagnose and attempt to cure, like a moth to a flame.

If you look through the archives of this and other groups you will see that
Gerald has been campaigning for years to get his ideas accepted.


I would be unlikely to waste my time doing that. If I did, I would find
far more time wasted by those who are compelled to set him straight
than by him and his posts.

I don't know
what he **actually believes** as opposed to what he **claims to believe** but
I do know that from time to time he lets his guard down and posts his version
of "facts" rather than the usual convoluted garbage. Each time he does this
the idiocy of communicating with him become clearer.


Yet you're still doing it. That doesn't tell me anything about /him/ .

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you will say in your entire life.

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Old January 14th 15, 11:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 10:53:08 PM UTC, Davoud wrote:

I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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There is this sullen atmosphere here with no sense of adventure and certainly nothing of that distinct lucidity that goes into making an astronomer. The superfluous idea of genius is that it represents an unattainable intellectual standard but often is a mere excuse for passing voodoo off as 'fact'. In astronomical terms a genius has a more intimate and intense exposure to observations so that one observations often reminds the creative personality of something else.

Ten years ago I was about to cross a fast flowing stream down at the beach but stopped to notice how the sandbank was being eroded by the freshwater stream coming from a nearby field. I then considered that rotating celestial objects with fluid compositions moving beneath a fractured crust may leaves clues hence the uneven rotational gradient from Equatorial to Polar latitudes and the evolution of the Mid Atlantic Ridge.

I noticed what happened as lesser minds took hold of a rotational mechanism and created a monster out of clear reasoning which ties together the spherical deviation of the planet with plate tectonics using a common rotational mechanism. I have moved on to develop other things because this type of criss-crossing of information goes on all the time and there should be a lot more of it.

There is a type of personality which doesn't dwell on priority but rather deals with the challenges when now approaches to topics crop up and then shoot off in multiple different directions.

 




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