I am curious about something

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his and why does he
persist in trying to convert others to it for years on end without
gaining even one to his way of thinking?

A reply from you Gerald would be welcome if you can do so without beating
the same old dead horse.

"Starstuffed" wrote in message ...

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his and why does he
persist in trying to convert others to it for years on end without
gaining even one to his way of thinking?


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Autism.
http://www.autism.org.uk/about-autis...is-autism.aspx
He can't help his condition but he could help shutting up. But then again,
he's living the life he chooses and has the right to free speech, the idiot.

-- Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway

Starstuffed:

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his ...

Because he has suckers like you obsessed with setting him straight.

...and why does he
persist in trying to convert others to it for years on end without
gaining even one to his way of thinking?

Dunno. Why do suckers persist in trying to convert Gerald to their
worldview when it ain't gonna happen?

A reply from you Gerald would be welcome if you can do so without beating
the same old dead horse.

See what I mean? He's got you *begging* him to sucker you in again.

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 21:52:58 -0400, Davoud wrote:

Starstuffed:

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his ...

Because he has suckers like you obsessed with setting him straight.

...and why does he persist in trying to convert others to it for years
on end without gaining even one to his way of thinking?

Dunno. Why do suckers persist in trying to convert Gerald to their
worldview when it ain't gonna happen?

A reply from you Gerald would be welcome if you can do so without
beating the same old dead horse.

See what I mean? He's got you *begging* him to sucker you in again.


I can see you still think you are something special, Davoud. I can see
that you are still a name-calling jerk.

Starstuffed:
How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his ...

Davoud:
Because he has suckers like you obsessed with setting him straight.

...and why does he persist in trying to convert others to it for
years on end without gaining even one to his way of thinking?

Dunno. Why do suckers persist in trying to convert Gerald to their
worldview when it ain't gonna happen?

A reply from you Gerald would be welcome if you can do so without
beating the same old dead horse.

See what I mean? He's got you *begging* him to sucker you in again.

I can see you still think you are something special, Davoud. I can see
that you are still a name-calling jerk.

If laying out the simple truth makes me a name-calling jerk, mea culpa.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

On Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:55:04 PM UTC-6, Starstuffed wrote:

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his

Well, one way to make some progress towards hypothesizing an answer to that question would be more fully understanding the roots of his view.

I've been following his posts for some time now.

It seems to me that he believes that claiming the sidereal day of 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds as the true rotational period of the Earth is tantamount to saying that the Sun revolves around the Earth!

And we all know that Copernicus was right, and the Earth revolves around the Sun instead.

But why would he believe that?

Well, it is true that the positions of the fixed stars, as the Earth moves around the Sun, are affected by parallax.

Another element of his view is that he sees advanced mathematics as nothing more than voodoo and mumbo-jumbo. And Newton's law of gravity, and the whole science of celestial mechanics, is seen as reducing the Moon to a cannonball - and, thus, as an insult to the heavens and hence to the Majesty of God!

So the reasons why we say the Moon rotates - to account for librations - and that the Earth's rotation is in 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds - so it doesn't have to slow down and speed up to match the Equation of Time - are, to him, irrelevancies.

In his view, astronomy should be interpretive - we should look at and enjoy the heavens, and progress to a better understanding of them the right way. The wrong way is to try to reduce everything to a mechanism following Earthly rules. The right way is to use an artist's intuition, disciplined by guidance coming from the kind of authority once provided by the Catholic Church.

That would be astronomy for real men, instead of the childish babblers who hide their ignorance behind walls of empiricist mumbo jumbo!

He basically rejects the goals of making sure our space probes - and ICBMs - run on time, and sees as unreal the physical and mathematical objections to his world view.

John Savard

On Friday, April 25, 2014 2:52:58 AM UTC+1, Davoud wrote:



See what I mean? He's got you *begging* him to sucker you in again.



I don't mind the other guy as he is a newbie and hasn't earned the right of a reply but I assure you that I am not here to convince people who truly believe that the Earth is 3 minutes 56 seconds into the next rotation after 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds thereby creating an impossible mismatch between 24 hour days and rotations through 360 degrees.

" It is a fact not generally known that,owing to the difference between solar and sidereal time,the Earth rotates upon its axis once more often than there are days in the year" NASA /Harvard

Of course that fictional script has been jettisoned by the empiricists for a new and equally meaningless script where they conjecture a conclusion about the past and don't even bother with external references anymore -

"At the time of the dinosaurs, Earth completed one rotation in about 23 hours," says MacMillan, who is a member of the VLBI team at NASA Goddard. "In the year 1820, a rotation took exactly 24 hours, or 86,400 standard seconds.. Since 1820, the mean solar day has increased by about 2.5 milliseconds." NASA

Timekeeping is safe in my hands,it relies on using external references properly so students can understand exactly where the 24 hour system and the Lat/Long system comes from. When genuine astronomers come to see how much the education system becomes an indoctrinating system via math/physics and how students quickly fall away from ever investigating the celestial arena into their adulthood,two things will happen - they will see that astronomy was open to exploitation all along by voodoo chanters and bluffers who make a mockery of that ancient discipline but they will also see a new astronomy emerge through imaging and graphics using their natural interpretative faculties.

None of you can hold a conversation among yourselves that is worth listening to as you poor unfortunates have to avoid genuine astronomical history along with imaging which supports that true history.





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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that

you will say in your entire life.



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On Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:55:04 PM UTC-4, Starstuffed wrote:
How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his and why does he
persist in trying to convert others to it for years on end without
gaining even one to his way of thinking?

Rumor has it that most of the postings are the product of a 'bot.

On Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:17:36 PM UTC-4, Lord Androcles wrote:

He can't help his condition but he could help shutting up. But then again,
he's living the life he chooses and has the right to free speech, the idiot.

While he does have the natural right to free speech, he does not have a right (of any kind) to unleash a 'bot on SAA. However, we have no moderator here, so by default he has assumed the -privilege- of doing so.

As is typical of leftists of your ilk, you will now attempt to shout down those with whom you disagree, rather than contribute logical and useful content to the discussion.

On Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:52:58 PM UTC-4, Davoud wrote:
Starstuffed:

How did Gerald get so obsessed with that view of his ...

Because he has suckers like you obsessed with setting him straight.

His crud is a more-or-less permanent feature of SAA and probably the work of a 'bot. It makes no difference whether anyone responds to or ignores him.