9/11 The biggest lies deal with the alleged debris fields

On Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:19:32 PM UTC-8, Rocky wrote:
At the current time it appears the biggest 9/11 lies still deal with the

alleged debris fields.



From the following site:

https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911NutPhysics1.HTM



"Since only 12% of the building volume was solid, the towers should collapse

into a pile 12% of the original height of the building, or just about 50

meters high. Since 18 meters of that pile would be filling the basement, the

above-ground portion would be 32 meters high."



But there is no evidence anything went underground because the 5 floors of

Stairwell B that survived from the North Tower were all above ground.



And there is no evidence the above-ground portion was 32 meters high because

people could easily see all 5 floors of the surviving stairwell B.



So that means that the one touching story that the 9/11 perpetraitors wanted

told to the world is also the one that contains the evidence we were lied

to. G



The Miracle of stairwell B (full documentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpTRNEVKMY4



Rocky - 9/11 used fusion bombs and not fission bombs

A great deal still doesn't add up to what we have been told to accept.

Accepting the mainstream 9/11 story (aka fairy tale) is apparently as good as it gets, because we are not being allowed to criticize or deductively interpret any of it.

Even if so, the mainstream status quo fuel-rich burn is simply not going to become hot enough to melt and/or entirely burn through steel, or otherwise capable of triggering an ideal demolition series of explosions unless the structure was already packed or rigged with enough explosive elements to begin with, and/or as having been badly overloaded at perhaps 500+ lbs/sf of loose/live inventory that should have had many of its floors buckling and their concrete flooring panels fractured to begin with.

BTW; UPS battery banks can easily exceed 500 lbs/sf, and we can even double that if stacked floor to high ceiling in vertical banks in order to conserve space and maximize energy density. Each of those WTC structures had at least a couple hundred UPS battery bank modules, as necessary for keeping their computers, lighting and assorted systems up and running at full capacity for at least a couple hours. The building infrastructure also had to have had a few hundred power distribution transformers plus a good many generators and their fuel systems adding live loads plus extra fire and/or potentially explosive issues here and there, and of course HVAC systems of that era were not exactly low density, as having to get rid of 110 floors worth of heat or roughly at minimum 2.5 MW of thermal energy per structure plus loads of extra cooling just for accommodating computers.

I kinda doubt anyone is ever going to fess up, as to how much floor by floor loading plus energy demand was actually installed, even though building engineers and their insurance agencies as well as an assortment of contractors had to have known that at least some of those floors had been excessively overloaded and likely using way more than their fair share of energy.

http://www.starsandstrikes.com/image...-05-38-29..pdf

Peak summer electrical load demand was reported as close to 100 MW for the whole WTC complex of roughly 10 million sq.ft., or 10 w/sf, and according to this in-depth survey report, of each and every aspect of the WTC complex was always in tip-top condition, as well as having been constantly upgraded to the latest technologies, plus everything frequently proof-tested to safety, operational and structural code, having no signs of any stress, wear or otherwise undisclosed issues (such as any leakages, corrosion or live/non-structural floor loading was never an issue), and in summary should have been good to go for at least another 150 years without a stitch of structural, engineering or facade compromise of any sort (aka good as new). Apparently these spendy structures were becoming two thirds empty because they were simply too energy efficient, had too much in safety/reserve backups that were always reliable, constructed as way too sturdy and everything always worked as good or better than new. Go figure as to why tenants were getting so antsy to leave and others unwilling to move in to such a competitively good deal.

Of course reselling the WTC complex once again to yet another unsuspecting client, and getting it over-insured wasn’t exactly an option since other newer structures were so much cheaper per SF to lease and offered better features and/or more affordable services of which WTC simply could not, making the depressed commercial office market value at half or even a third of what the current owner had over-invested. Good thing that large portions of the WTC complex was leased by city, port and government agencies that did not have to care how much their space was costing us, as otherwise those spaces would have been empty. Of course we’re not allowed to follow the money because oddly this whole 9/11 fiasco was never considered an official crime scene, much less of any high treason, and thereby all sorts of objective and forensic evidence was cleaned up and tossed.

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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On Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:19:32 PM UTC-8, Rocky wrote:
At the current time it appears the biggest 9/11 lies still deal with the
alleged debris fields.

From the following site:
https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911NutPhysics1.HTM

"Since only 12% of the building volume was solid, the towers should
collapse
into a pile 12% of the original height of the building, or just about 50
meters high. Since 18 meters of that pile would be filling the basement,
the
above-ground portion would be 32 meters high."

But there is no evidence anything went underground because the 5 floors of
Stairwell B that survived from the North Tower were all above ground.

And there is no evidence the above-ground portion was 32 meters high
because
people could easily see all 5 floors of the surviving stairwell B.

So that means that the one touching story that the 9/11 perpetraitors
wanted
told to the world is also the one that contains the evidence we were lied
to. G

The Miracle of stairwell B (full documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpTRNEVKMY4

Rocky - 9/11 used fusion bombs and not fission bombs

A great deal still doesn't add up to what we have been told to accept.

Accepting the mainstream 9/11 story (aka fairy tale) is apparently as good
as it gets, because we are not being allowed to criticize or deductively
interpret any of it.

Even if so, the mainstream status quo fuel-rich burn is simply not going to
become hot enough to melt and/or entirely burn through steel, or otherwise
capable of triggering an ideal demolition series of explosions unless the
structure was already packed or rigged with enough explosive elements to
begin with, and/or as having been badly overloaded at perhaps 500+ lbs/sf of
loose/live inventory that should have had many of its floors buckling and
their concrete flooring panels fractured to begin with.

BTW; UPS battery banks can easily exceed 500 lbs/sf, and we can even double
that if stacked floor to high ceiling in vertical banks in order to conserve
space and maximize energy density. Each of those WTC structures had at
least a couple hundred UPS battery bank modules, as necessary for keeping
their computers, lighting and assorted systems up and running at full
capacity for at least a couple hours. The building infrastructure also had
to have had a few hundred power distribution transformers plus a good many
generators and their fuel systems adding live loads plus extra fire and/or
potentially explosive issues here and there, and of course HVAC systems of
that era were not exactly low density, as having to get rid of 110 floors
worth of heat or roughly at minimum 2.5 MW of thermal energy per structure
plus loads of extra cooling just for accommodating computers.

I kinda doubt anyone is ever going to fess up, as to how much floor by floor
loading plus energy demand was actually installed, even though building
engineers and their insurance agencies as well as an assortment of
contractors had to have known that at least some of those floors had been
excessively overloaded and likely using way more than their fair share of
energy.

http://www.starsandstrikes.com/image...7-05-38-29.pdf

Peak summer electrical load demand was reported as close to 100 MW for the
whole WTC complex of roughly 10 million sq.ft., or 10 w/sf, and according to
this in-depth survey report, of each and every aspect of the WTC complex was
always in tip-top condition, as well as having been constantly upgraded to
the latest technologies, plus everything frequently proof-tested to safety,
operational and structural code, having no signs of any stress, wear or
otherwise undisclosed issues (such as any leakages, corrosion or
live/non-structural floor loading was never an issue), and in summary should
have been good to go for at least another 150 years without a stitch of
structural, engineering or facade compromise of any sort (aka good as new).
Apparently these spendy structures were becoming two thirds empty because
they were simply too energy efficient, had too much in safety/reserve
backups that were always reliable, constructed as way too sturdy and
everything always worked as good or better than new. Go figure as to why
tenants were getting so antsy to leave and others unwilling to move in to
such a competitively good deal.

Of course reselling the WTC complex once again to yet another unsuspecting
client, and getting it over-insured wasn’t exactly an option since other
newer structures were so much cheaper per SF to lease and offered better
features and/or more affordable services of which WTC simply could not,
making the depressed commercial office market value at half or even a third
of what the current owner had over-invested. Good thing that large portions
of the WTC complex was leased by city, port and government agencies that did
not have to care how much their space was costing us, as otherwise those
spaces would have been empty. Of course we’re not allowed to follow the
money because oddly this whole 9/11 fiasco was never considered an official
crime scene, much less of any high treason, and thereby all sorts of
objective and forensic evidence was cleaned up and tossed.

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Yes. BTW yesterday I saw the letters OCT and once I figured out what OCT
meant I've decided to try and get the shills to prove their OCT (Official
Collapse Theory) where 12% of the height of the Twin Towers should have made
it to the ground did.

I know they will just keep lying but there is plenty of evidence that proves
only about 2% of the North Tower made it to the ground and even the 2% might
be on the high side.

Rocky - The OCT is a lie and so is 9/11

On Sunday, January 12, 2014 7:28:29 AM UTC-8, Rocky wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote in message

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On Saturday, January 11, 2014 1:19:32 PM UTC-8, Rocky wrote:

At the current time it appears the biggest 9/11 lies still deal with the

alleged debris fields.



From the following site:

https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911NutPhysics1.HTM



"Since only 12% of the building volume was solid, the towers should

collapse

into a pile 12% of the original height of the building, or just about 50

meters high. Since 18 meters of that pile would be filling the basement,

the

above-ground portion would be 32 meters high."



But there is no evidence anything went underground because the 5 floors of

Stairwell B that survived from the North Tower were all above ground.



And there is no evidence the above-ground portion was 32 meters high

because

people could easily see all 5 floors of the surviving stairwell B.



So that means that the one touching story that the 9/11 perpetraitors

wanted

told to the world is also the one that contains the evidence we were lied

to. G



The Miracle of stairwell B (full documentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpTRNEVKMY4



Rocky - 9/11 used fusion bombs and not fission bombs



A great deal still doesn't add up to what we have been told to accept.



Accepting the mainstream 9/11 story (aka fairy tale) is apparently as good

as it gets, because we are not being allowed to criticize or deductively

interpret any of it.



Even if so, the mainstream status quo fuel-rich burn is simply not going to

become hot enough to melt and/or entirely burn through steel, or otherwise

capable of triggering an ideal demolition series of explosions unless the

structure was already packed or rigged with enough explosive elements to

begin with, and/or as having been badly overloaded at perhaps 500+ lbs/sf of

loose/live inventory that should have had many of its floors buckling and

their concrete flooring panels fractured to begin with.



BTW; UPS battery banks can easily exceed 500 lbs/sf, and we can even double

that if stacked floor to high ceiling in vertical banks in order to conserve

space and maximize energy density. Each of those WTC structures had at

least a couple hundred UPS battery bank modules, as necessary for keeping

their computers, lighting and assorted systems up and running at full

capacity for at least a couple hours. The building infrastructure also had

to have had a few hundred power distribution transformers plus a good many

generators and their fuel systems adding live loads plus extra fire and/or

potentially explosive issues here and there, and of course HVAC systems of

that era were not exactly low density, as having to get rid of 110 floors

worth of heat or roughly at minimum 2.5 MW of thermal energy per structure

plus loads of extra cooling just for accommodating computers.



I kinda doubt anyone is ever going to fess up, as to how much floor by floor

loading plus energy demand was actually installed, even though building

engineers and their insurance agencies as well as an assortment of

contractors had to have known that at least some of those floors had been

excessively overloaded and likely using way more than their fair share of

energy.



http://www.starsandstrikes.com/image...7-05-38-29.pdf



Peak summer electrical load demand was reported as close to 100 MW for the

whole WTC complex of roughly 10 million sq.ft., or 10 w/sf, and according to

this in-depth survey report, of each and every aspect of the WTC complex was

always in tip-top condition, as well as having been constantly upgraded to

the latest technologies, plus everything frequently proof-tested to safety,

operational and structural code, having no signs of any stress, wear or

otherwise undisclosed issues (such as any leakages, corrosion or

live/non-structural floor loading was never an issue), and in summary should

have been good to go for at least another 150 years without a stitch of

structural, engineering or facade compromise of any sort (aka good as new).

Apparently these spendy structures were becoming two thirds empty because

they were simply too energy efficient, had too much in safety/reserve

backups that were always reliable, constructed as way too sturdy and

everything always worked as good or better than new. Go figure as to why

tenants were getting so antsy to leave and others unwilling to move in to

such a competitively good deal.



Of course reselling the WTC complex once again to yet another unsuspecting

client, and getting it over-insured wasn�t exactly an option since other

newer structures were so much cheaper per SF to lease and offered better

features and/or more affordable services of which WTC simply could not,

making the depressed commercial office market value at half or even a third

of what the current owner had over-invested. Good thing that large portions

of the WTC complex was leased by city, port and government agencies that did

not have to care how much their space was costing us, as otherwise those

spaces would have been empty. Of course we�re not allowed to follow the

money because oddly this whole 9/11 fiasco was never considered an official

crime scene, much less of any high treason, and thereby all sorts of

objective and forensic evidence was cleaned up and tossed.



=====================



Yes. BTW yesterday I saw the letters OCT and once I figured out what OCT

meant I've decided to try and get the shills to prove their OCT (Official

Collapse Theory) where 12% of the height of the Twin Towers should have made

it to the ground did.



I know they will just keep lying but there is plenty of evidence that proves

only about 2% of the North Tower made it to the ground and even the 2% might

be on the high side.



Rocky - The OCT is a lie and so is 9/11

Wow! that is certainly a lot of dust.

Also, figure the average live (aka nonstructural) floor loading at near 250 lbs/SF, as a lot more so on certain floors and somewhat less on most others.