Edmund RKE eyepiece availability notice

With someone currently selling these in a different forum (to remain
unmentioned) while claiming that this line of eyepieces is now
discontinued (I assume in an effort to promote the sale to those caught
unaware, and not willing to investigate), I would like to set the record
straight that they are (and from all apprearances, will continue to
remain) available (in quantities of 1, or whatever) direct from Edmund
Optical (at reasonable prices) at this web address:

http://www.edmundoptics.com/IOD/Disp...productid=2075

They can be purchased directly online at the lower end of the web page I
list above.

Lawrence Sayre

--
My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as
a moral being, with his own happiness as the moral
purpose of his life, with productive achievement as
his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.

Ayn Rand (in the appendix to 'Atlas Shrugged')

Thanks for the notice.

I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 12:30:50 GMT, Lawrence Sayre
wrote:

With someone currently selling these in a different forum (to remain
unmentioned) while claiming that this line of eyepieces is now
discontinued (I assume in an effort to promote the sale to those caught
unaware, and not willing to investigate), I would like to set the record
straight that they are (and from all apprearances, will continue to
remain) available (in quantities of 1, or whatever) direct from Edmund
Optical (at reasonable prices) at this web address:

http://www.edmundoptics.com/IOD/Disp...productid=2075

They can be purchased directly online at the lower end of the web page I
list above.

Lawrence Sayre

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:00 -0500, Brad Isley
wrote:

Thanks for the notice.

I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

Lawrence Sayre

--
My philosophy, in essence, is the concept of man as
a moral being, with his own happiness as the moral
purpose of his life, with productive achievement as
his noblest activity, and reason as his only absolute.

Ayn Rand (in the appendix to 'Atlas Shrugged')

Lawrence Sayre wrote in message news:oprzenpehjsib3zq@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:00 -0500, Brad Isley
wrote:

Thanks for the notice.

I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

For another 10-$15 you can get an orthoscopic. Easily outperforming the
'ole RKE in my experience. The RKEs are only good very close to COF,
suffering from lateral color when off axis by just an arc-minute or
so of true field even in f/8+ systems.

Dan Chaffee

On 29 Nov 2003 19:38:10 -0800, (Dan Chaffee) ...reflected:

Lawrence Sayre wrote in message news:oprzenpehjsib3zq@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:00 -0500, Brad Isley
wrote:

Thanks for the notice.

I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

For another 10-$15 you can get an orthoscopic.

Better yet, for only $2-6 extra you can get an excellent
'Circle-T' orthoscopic made in Japan and sold by University
Optics. My 4mm is outstanding, and the 5, 7, and 9mm are
excellent, too.

Easily outperforming the
'ole RKE in my experience. The RKEs are only good very close to COF,
suffering from lateral color when off axis by just an arc-minute or
so of true field even in f/8+ systems.

Dan Chaffee

Alan

On 29 Nov 2003 19:38:10 -0800, (Dan Chaffee)
wrote:

Lawrence Sayre wrote in message news:oprzenpehjsib3zq@news-server...
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 01:36:00 -0500, Brad Isley
wrote:

Thanks for the notice.

I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

For another 10-$15 you can get an orthoscopic. Easily outperforming the
'ole RKE in my experience. The RKEs are only good very close to COF,
suffering from lateral color when off axis by just an arc-minute or
so of true field even in f/8+ systems.

Dan Chaffee

My complaint is that they were recently a good bit less expensive and
they're really not that great nor or they a complex design.

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:09:15 -0600, Alan W. Craft
wrote:


I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

For another 10-$15 you can get an orthoscopic.

Better yet, for only $2-6 extra you can get an excellent
'Circle-T' orthoscopic made in Japan and sold by University
Optics. My 4mm is outstanding, and the 5, 7, and 9mm are
excellent, too.

Easily outperforming the
'ole RKE in my experience. The RKEs are only good very close to COF,
suffering from lateral color when off axis by just an arc-minute or
so of true field even in f/8+ systems.

Dan Chaffee

Alan

In a couple of "Peer Reviewed" articles on the 'Cloudy Nights' web site,
the Edmund RKE's beat just about everything else (including the usual top
of the line premium fare from Televue and Takahashi, the Celestron
Ultima's, and the U/O Ortho's, and loosing outright only to the Zeiss
Orthos) in head to head planetary viewing tests done by a group of people
on a range of about a dozen quality telescopes the average Joe wouldn't
likely be able to afford. Perhaps they are worth $54 each? I've never
looked through one, so I wouldn't know if they are worth $54 or not. At
least they are not Chinese, which is becoming the norm for most eyepieces
to be found at less than $54.

However, my only actual initial interest in starting this thread was to
warn people that someone on Astromart (who has sold them all already)
'was' offering a set of RKE's used for $50 each (which he likely received)
under the guise (within the test of his ad) that they are "no longer
available" and "getting hard to find" (whereby I assume the seller had
likely paid the former $39 new price for them). I was only trying to warn
people that for an additional $4 each they could buy brand new ones direct
from the factory, which has not discontinued these eyepieces.

Before I posted here, I contacted the seller via email and pointed him to
the Edmund Optics web site URL, and educated him as to the current
availability of these new eyepieces at essentially the same price he was
offering for used ones. In his reply he blew me off (by actually telling
me that people who obviously know more than me had told him that Edmund
Optics has a minimum $500 purchase, so for all intents and purposes they
are discontinued, and therefore he found it easier simply to state that
they were discontinued in his sale ad) [this $500 minimum being an
outright lie], and he did not pull his ads.

Lawrence Sayre

"Lawrence Sayre" wrote in message

In a couple of "Peer Reviewed" articles on the 'Cloudy Nights' web site,
the Edmund RKE's beat just about everything else (including the usual top
of the line premium fare from Televue and Takahashi, the Celestron
Ultima's, and the U/O Ortho's, and loosing outright only to the Zeiss
Orthos) in head to head planetary viewing tests done by a group of people
on a range of about a dozen quality telescopes the average Joe wouldn't
likely be able to afford. Perhaps they are worth $54 each? I've never
looked through one, so I wouldn't know if they are worth $54 or not. At
least they are not Chinese, which is becoming the norm for most eyepieces
to be found at less than $54.

That particular review on Cloudy Nights seems to be one data point in
significant varience from the rest of the data points. Daniel Mounsey is a
bit of an iconoclast and enjoys countering conventional wisdom regardless
of its veracity. This assessment is based on other writings of his as well.

Regards,
Ed T.

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:58:50 GMT, Lawrence Sayre
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:09:15 -0600, Alan W. Craft
wrote:


I'll respectfully disagree with the "reasonable price" clause. ;-)


$54 each is not unreasonable, is it?

For another 10-$15 you can get an orthoscopic.

Better yet, for only $2-6 extra you can get an excellent
'Circle-T' orthoscopic made in Japan and sold by University
Optics. My 4mm is outstanding, and the 5, 7, and 9mm are
excellent, too.

Easily outperforming the
'ole RKE in my experience. The RKEs are only good very close to COF,
suffering from lateral color when off axis by just an arc-minute or
so of true field even in f/8+ systems.

Dan Chaffee

Alan

In a couple of "Peer Reviewed" articles on the 'Cloudy Nights' web site,
the Edmund RKE's beat just about everything else (including the usual top
of the line premium fare from Televue and Takahashi, the Celestron
Ultima's, and the U/O Ortho's, and loosing outright only to the Zeiss
Orthos) in head to head planetary viewing tests done by a group of people
on a range of about a dozen quality telescopes the average Joe wouldn't
likely be able to afford. Perhaps they are worth $54 each? I've never
looked through one, so I wouldn't know if they are worth $54 or not. At
least they are not Chinese, which is becoming the norm for most eyepieces
to be found at less than $54.

Uh huh. That's a mighty fishy review. I read it, too. I was darn
close to ordering a couple from Edmund's until I studied a bit more
and spoke to folks who had used the RKE's.

However, my only actual initial interest in starting this thread was to
warn people that someone on Astromart (who has sold them all already)
'was' offering a set of RKE's used for $50 each (which he likely received)
under the guise (within the test of his ad) that they are "no longer
available" and "getting hard to find" (whereby I assume the seller had
likely paid the former $39 new price for them). I was only trying to warn
people that for an additional $4 each they could buy brand new ones direct
from the factory, which has not discontinued these eyepieces.

Before I posted here, I contacted the seller via email and pointed him to
the Edmund Optics web site URL, and educated him as to the current
availability of these new eyepieces at essentially the same price he was
offering for used ones. In his reply he blew me off (by actually telling
me that people who obviously know more than me had told him that Edmund
Optics has a minimum $500 purchase, so for all intents and purposes they
are discontinued, and therefore he found it easier simply to state that
they were discontinued in his sale ad) [this $500 minimum being an
outright lie], and he did not pull his ads.

Good call on the Liar. ;-)

thanks

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:58:50 GMT, Lawrence Sayre
wrote:



In a couple of "Peer Reviewed" articles on the 'Cloudy Nights' web site,
the Edmund RKE's beat just about everything else (including the usual top
of the line premium fare from Televue and Takahashi, the Celestron
Ultima's, and the U/O Ortho's, and loosing outright only to the Zeiss
Orthos) in head to head planetary viewing tests done by a group of people
on a range of about a dozen quality telescopes the average Joe wouldn't
likely be able to afford. Perhaps they are worth $54 each? I've never
looked through one, so I wouldn't know if they are worth $54 or not. At
least they are not Chinese, which is becoming the norm for most eyepieces
to be found at less than $54.

I have many hours on both types of eyepieces and stand by my
previous comments.

DC