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Has anybody done a scientific study of the sources of light
pollution in a typical American city? It sounds like something that would be fairly easy to derive from satellite photos or reconaissance aircraft. One tends to think of street lighting as the primary culprit because it is ubiquitous, but I have my doubts. For one thing, even the worst street lighting is fairly well shielded, as these things go. I bet a conventional "bad" cobra light doesn't send more than 20% of its light upward. The new fashionable acorn lights are much worse, but even they are pretty well shielded on top. Recently, attempting to measure sky brightness at various spots around town, it has dawned on me that ball fields are a truly major source of light pollution. In Boston, Fenway Park is an obvious culprit, but the Boston University field is every bit as bright as Fenway, and is illuminated much more of the time. It has a large, measurable effect on sky brightness within a radius of one or two miles. Then there are Harvard's fields and MIT's fields and the various municipal fields, which remain illuminated increasingly many nights and increasingly long into the night. I have measured nearly a 50% drop in sky brightness between 9PM and 5AM, and I bet that a good chunk of that is due to ball fields. Other sources I can think of: 3. Automobile headlights 4. Parking-lot lights (municipal, industrial, commercial) 5. Industrial/commercial security lights (hard to separate from #4) 6. Residential security lights 7. Car dealers 8. Prisons Anything else? Note that of these, ball fields, car dealers, and prisons are particularly threatening, since they aim (for perfectly valid reasons) to make outdoor areas as bright as day. By and large, they use fairly well shielded lights to achieve that aim, ball fields being probably the worst exceptions, but even a small patch of day emits a mighty lot of light towards the sky. - Tony Flanders |
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Tony Flanders:
... One tends to think of street lighting as the primary culprit because it is ubiquitous, but I have my doubts. For one thing, even the worst street lighting is fairly well shielded, as these things go. I bet a conventional "bad" cobra light doesn't send more than 20% of its light upward. The new fashionable acorn lights are much worse, but even they are pretty well shielded on top. Recently, attempting to measure sky brightness at various spots around town, it has dawned on me that ball fields are a truly major source of light pollution. In Boston, Fenway Park is an obvious culprit, but the Boston University field is every bit as bright as Fenway, and is illuminated much more of the time. It has a large, measurable effect on sky brightness within a radius of one or two miles. Then there are Harvard's fields and MIT's fields and the various municipal fields, which remain illuminated increasingly many nights and increasingly long into the night. I have measured nearly a 50% drop in sky brightness between 9PM and 5AM, and I bet that a good chunk of that is due to ball fields. Other sources I can think of: 3. Automobile headlights 4. Parking-lot lights (municipal, industrial, commercial) 5. Industrial/commercial security lights (hard to separate from #4) 6. Residential security lights 7. Car dealers 8. Prisons ... All of the above. And illuminated signage is big. And porch lights are small. In my opinion, it's cumulative -- collect enough drops of water, and you've got an ocean. I'm not generally a pessimist, but I don't think that there is much hope for slowing, much less reversing, the spread of light pollution. In spite of local successes by IDA http://www.darksky.org/, the public are largely unaware that light pollution exists. Politicians have more important things on their minds, and even if they wanted to reverse the trend by legislation, they would face insurmountable opposition from the business community. There may be a lesson in the recent passage of the Do-Not-Call bill; the politicians did surmount opposition from the business community because 50 million Americans had signed on to the list. So, if you can get 50 million people to say "We want dark skies" you might be able to do something. Davoud -- usenet *at* davidillig dawt com |
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I'm not generally a pessimist, but I don't think that there is much
hope for slowing, much less reversing, the spread of light pollution. I think there is hope, but not because the public interest will demand it but rather because as energy costs rise, efficient use of lighting will become a priority. It may not happen tomorrow but it will happen IMHO. jon |
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![]() "Tony Flanders" wrote in message ... Has anybody done a scientific study of the sources of light pollution in a typical American city? It sounds like something that would be fairly easy to derive from satellite photos or reconaissance aircraft. One tends to think of street lighting as the primary culprit because it is ubiquitous, but I have my doubts. For one thing, even the worst street lighting is fairly well shielded, as these things go. I bet a conventional "bad" cobra light doesn't send more than 20% of its light upward. The new fashionable acorn lights are much worse, but even they are pretty well shielded on top. Remember that if the albedo of the road is not very low, a lot of the light that is sent downwards, ends up bouncing back upwards. It is really noticeable, that street lighting gives far worse light pollution, when the road surfaces are concrete, than when dealing with tarmac surfaces. Recently, attempting to measure sky brightness at various spots around town, it has dawned on me that ball fields are a truly major source of light pollution. In Boston, Fenway Park is an obvious culprit, but the Boston University field is every bit as bright as Fenway, and is illuminated much more of the time. It has a large, measurable effect on sky brightness within a radius of one or two miles. Then there are Harvard's fields and MIT's fields and the various municipal fields, which remain illuminated increasingly many nights and increasingly long into the night. I have measured nearly a 50% drop in sky brightness between 9PM and 5AM, and I bet that a good chunk of that is due to ball fields. Other sources I can think of: 3. Automobile headlights 4. Parking-lot lights (municipal, industrial, commercial) 5. Industrial/commercial security lights (hard to separate from #4) 6. Residential security lights 7. Car dealers 8. Prisons Anything else? Note that of these, ball fields, car dealers, and prisons are particularly threatening, since they aim (for perfectly valid reasons) to make outdoor areas as bright as day. By and large, they use fairly well shielded lights to achieve that aim, ball fields being probably the worst exceptions, but even a small patch of day emits a mighty lot of light towards the sky. In the UK, the ones that really 'scream' at you, are golf driving ranges. They tend to be lit from the driving point, or close to this end, with large amounts of lighting aimed 'along' the range. A friend was commenting on this just the other day, with the visible 'dome' of pollution from a range over four miles away... Best Wishes |
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agreed on the energy savings driver... hopefully the long island story will
reproduce itself successfully across the country. certainly wouldn't hurt to reduce our energy imports as well. a nearby golf range which is lit at night is a huge source of light pollution near me. from the highway 5 miles away it looks like someone is filming the mothership scene of close encounters. jtm "Jon Isaacs" wrote in message ... I'm not generally a pessimist, but I don't think that there is much hope for slowing, much less reversing, the spread of light pollution. I think there is hope, but not because the public interest will demand it but rather because as energy costs rise, efficient use of lighting will become a priority. It may not happen tomorrow but it will happen IMHO. jon |
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I live in a small town North of Nashville, TN and when I first moved here
eleven years ago the skies were very dark due to being appx 25 miles away from the city and mall lights. About three years ago the mayor and council of my small community placed approximately fifty street lights at various locations inside the 4 mile by 8 mile city boundaries for security reasons, even though we had zero crime. Even with low wattage low-pressure sodium (yellow) lighting, the sky is considerably more light polluted especially on nights with higher humidity. I must say that personally, the street lights were my largest source of pollution. I approached our power coop without discussing with the mayor or council and they agreed to spray the inside of the glass shades black around my home. The lineman said that they would rather do this than replace lights that were shot out by BB guns....I remained silent. This solution allowed the light to illuminate the streets, to keep my light dependent neighbors happy, while cutting down the unwelcome dispersion into the surrounding sky. I gained "some" of my dark sky back. Scott Smith "Tony Flanders" wrote in message ... Has anybody done a scientific study of the sources of light pollution in a typical American city? It sounds like something that would be fairly easy to derive from satellite photos or reconaissance aircraft. One tends to think of street lighting as the primary culprit because it is ubiquitous, but I have my doubts. For one thing, even the worst street lighting is fairly well shielded, as these things go. I bet a conventional "bad" cobra light doesn't send more than 20% of its light upward. The new fashionable acorn lights are much worse, but even they are pretty well shielded on top. Recently, attempting to measure sky brightness at various spots around town, it has dawned on me that ball fields are a truly major source of light pollution. In Boston, Fenway Park is an obvious culprit, but the Boston University field is every bit as bright as Fenway, and is illuminated much more of the time. It has a large, measurable effect on sky brightness within a radius of one or two miles. Then there are Harvard's fields and MIT's fields and the various municipal fields, which remain illuminated increasingly many nights and increasingly long into the night. I have measured nearly a 50% drop in sky brightness between 9PM and 5AM, and I bet that a good chunk of that is due to ball fields. Other sources I can think of: 3. Automobile headlights 4. Parking-lot lights (municipal, industrial, commercial) 5. Industrial/commercial security lights (hard to separate from #4) 6. Residential security lights 7. Car dealers 8. Prisons Anything else? Note that of these, ball fields, car dealers, and prisons are particularly threatening, since they aim (for perfectly valid reasons) to make outdoor areas as bright as day. By and large, they use fairly well shielded lights to achieve that aim, ball fields being probably the worst exceptions, but even a small patch of day emits a mighty lot of light towards the sky. - Tony Flanders |
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Davoud:
I'm not generally a pessimist, but I don't think that there is much hope for slowing, much less reversing, the spread of light pollution. Jon Isaacs: I think there is hope, but not because the public interest will demand it but rather because as energy costs rise, efficient use of lighting will become a priority. It may not happen tomorrow but it will happen IMHO. I would like to think that you are right -- but GM continues to meet the demand for larger and more socially irresponsible so-called SUV's, and I think that it is evident that the American people are willing to accept terrorism and war as part of the cost of having energy to burn, be it in SUV's or inefficient lighting. Davoud -- usenet *at* davidillig dawt com |
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a nearby golf range which is lit at night is a huge source of light
pollution near me. from the highway 5 miles away it looks like someone is filming the mothership scene of close encounters. Here is San Diego there is actually a signficant aware of how light pollution affects the night sky. This is because of the closeness of Palomar Mountain and efforts to reduce the encroachment of the cities lights. The city council considers the effect of light pollution when making street lighting decisions. And too, both of San Diego's professional teams, the Chargers and the Padres do their part to keep light pollution at a minimum by making sure they alway miss the playoffs. g jon |
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Davoud posts:
All of the above. And illuminated signage is big. And porch lights are small. In my opinion, it's cumulative -- collect enough drops of water, and you've got an ocean. I'm not generally a pessimist, but I don't think that there is much hope for slowing, much less reversing, the spread of light pollution. As someone who has watched the spread of light pollution for some 50 years now, I'd have to say, sadly, that nothing imaginable is going to stop it nor slow it to any degree. Unless one outlaws urban sprawl, which will never happen, one can only envision a not too distant future where most observers (at least those east of the Mississippi) will have to travel hours just to reach magnitude 5.0 skies. The IDA can encourage all the shielding it may care to but this will, at best, only slow the growth of light pollution and never, ever reverse it - except perhaps in the areas of cities where the situation is already an observing disaster. In the NYC area 50 years ago one could see the milky way extend horizon to horizon just 20-25 miles outside the city. This vanished by about 1965. Some 35 years ago conditions at my rural home 75 miles from NYC were comparable to those on Mt. Palomar at the very same time (I had a chance to compared the sites) and the NYC/metropolitan area light glow was little more than a hint on the southern horizon. Today my site is fully alight and the local population growing rapidly. I have a limiting magnitude of 5.5 (in 1970 it was 7.5) and I've noted that the NYC-metro glow can be clearly seen out to at least 150 miles. This has all been the result of growth/population expansion - urban sprawl. As long as this continues, light pollution will expand expotentially and only the very naive and the dreamers will see hope of curtailing the situation. I'd love to suggest otherwise, but these are the hard, cold facts of reality. JB |
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I don't think you can rule out any source of light, even downward directed
streetlights, as a portion of the light is reflected upward. What's the first thing someone does when they move into the country? They put up a halogen light. |
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