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Hi all,
I normally shoot the Moon with Provia 100f because of its fine grain but I had a few shots left on a 400f roll so I finished them on the Moon. Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. Still undecided which I will use (weather permitting) for the upcoming eclipse. Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Take Care, JAS |
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Jose,
It's truly been a pleasure to see the progress you have made in just a very short time, from the time we first heard from you, to now. Great shot!!! I remember my astrophotography period (that was back in the Cretaceous Period, when dinosaurs walked the earth - I had a pet T-Rex that would stand guard while I was out in the Arizona desert taking astrophotos, so NOBODY messed with us), and watching you move with the digital generation has been a fun experience. You've made more progress in the last year than I did in five with 35mm film. Thanks for letting us share your growth in this great pastime!!! -- To reply, remove the "z" if one appears in my address "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Hi all, I normally shoot the Moon with Provia 100f because of its fine grain but I had a few shots left on a 400f roll so I finished them on the Moon. Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. Still undecided which I will use (weather permitting) for the upcoming eclipse. Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Take Care, JAS |
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Beautiful shot!
Clear Skies Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Hi all, I normally shoot the Moon with Provia 100f because of its fine grain but I had a few shots left on a 400f roll so I finished them on the Moon. Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. Still undecided which I will use (weather permitting) for the upcoming eclipse. Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Take Care, JAS |
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![]() "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. Right; high-speed films tend to be like that. Elite Chrome 200 less than most... you might try it. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. More to the point, it also "stops" the vibration from your camera's shutter. http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Nice! -- Michael Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com |
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Jan,
Thanks so much for the kind comments. A while back your advice was instrumental in getting me in the right scope, etc. I still have your eyepieces picture with the wine bottles and such - a classic ![]() dinosaur stuff. I'm starting to consider myself in that league ![]() Thanks again and take care, JAS "Jan Owen" wrote in message news:KSjkb.70767$vj2.40702@fed1read06... Jose, It's truly been a pleasure to see the progress you have made in just a very short time, from the time we first heard from you, to now. Great shot!!! I remember my astrophotography period (that was back in the Cretaceous Period, when dinosaurs walked the earth - I had a pet T-Rex that would stand guard while I was out in the Arizona desert taking astrophotos, so NOBODY messed with us), and watching you move with the digital generation has been a fun experience. You've made more progress in the last year than I did in five with 35mm film. Thanks for letting us share your growth in this great pastime!!! -- To reply, remove the "z" if one appears in my address "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Hi all, I normally shoot the Moon with Provia 100f because of its fine grain but I had a few shots left on a 400f roll so I finished them on the Moon. Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. Still undecided which I will use (weather permitting) for the upcoming eclipse. Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Take Care, JAS |
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Thanks Chuck - much appreciated.
Take Care, JAS "Chuck Taylor" wrote in message ... Beautiful shot! Clear Skies Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Hi all, I normally shoot the Moon with Provia 100f because of its fine grain but I had a few shots left on a 400f roll so I finished them on the Moon. Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. Still undecided which I will use (weather permitting) for the upcoming eclipse. Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Take Care, JAS |
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Hi Michael,
Thanks for the comments. You mentioned Elite Chrome 200 as having a better tonal range than the 400f and I don't doubt you for a second but will the tonal range hold up at +1 ? I'm still up in the air on the coming eclipse. I shot the last one on 400f and the tones were pretty compressed. You can see it he http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/lun..._composite.htm Then again, if seeing is so-so and taking into account a big reduction in photons for the eclipse, ISO 400 should help a lot, and as you metioned, shutter vibration will be less of an issue. Guess I better get busy and shoot some Elite Chrome at +1 before the eclipse so I can get me a quick (I hope) learnign curve. Thanks again and take care, JAS "Michael A. Covington" wrote in message ... "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Interesting to note the differences on the two films. First, the grain is more apparent on the 400f, but I also noticed the tonal range is shortened as well. Right; high-speed films tend to be like that. Elite Chrome 200 less than most... you might try it. On the 400f's behalf, being able to shoot at 1/500th of a second makes for consistently sharper pictures - free of most atmospheric turbulence. More to the point, it also "stops" the vibration from your camera's shutter. http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Nice! -- Michael Covington Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur www.covingtoninnovations.com |
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![]() "Jose Suro" wrote in message . com... Hi Michael, Thanks for the comments. You mentioned Elite Chrome 200 as having a better tonal range than the 400f and I don't doubt you for a second but will the tonal range hold up at +1 ? A one-stop push, you mean? Yes, at least partly. I would not recommend pushing it for an eclipse. I'm still up in the air on the coming eclipse. I shot the last one on 400f and the tones were pretty compressed. You can see it he http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/lun..._composite.htm Then again, if seeing is so-so and taking into account a big reduction in photons for the eclipse, ISO 400 should help a lot, and as you metioned, shutter vibration will be less of an issue. Guess I better get busy and shoot some Elite Chrome at +1 before the eclipse so I can get me a quick (I hope) learnign curve. Either that, or just use it straight. One stop does not make that much difference. Films are *all* so good these days that I can't keep up with them! I need to test Provia 400F myself. Clear skies, Michael |
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"Michael A. Covington" wrote
in message ... Films are *all* so good these days that I can't keep up with them! I need to test Provia 400F myself. Don Westergren has test data on his Web site: http://home.nethere.net/mpd/FilmTest...lmTestData.htm It appears to be the best unhypered film for astrophotography currently available |
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On 10/19/03 07:52 +0900, Jose Suro wrote:
Any way, here's the shot: http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jsuro/10_...n_10072003.htm Wow. Just wow. I took this with my little 4" and was pretty proud of my results for a first prime-focus effort. http://www2.gol.com/users/trane/luna.jpg Seeing yours just makes me shake my head. Yours is such a beautiful shot. trane -- //------------------------------------------------------------ // Trane Francks Tokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. // http://mp3.com/trane_francks/ |
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