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Old October 6th 03, 04:47 PM
Jerry
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This is a litle off topic, but maybe someone here knows what this was.
Several years ago (5 maybe) in February, I was stargazing with a
friend. He was looking through his Dob & I was laying on my back
scanning the zenith with binoculars when a black delta winged aircraft
of some sort came into view. It had no running lights, made no
detectable sound & was flying at a lowish altitude (maybe about the
size of the moon in 7X50's), so I got a fairly decent view. I followed
it for as long as I could on its northerly flight path. I told my
friend what I had seen & he had no idea. I live 40 miles North of
Tampa...... Blackbird maybe?
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Old October 6th 03, 09:12 PM
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More like a Nighthalk F-117A. SR-71's, blackbirds, are extremely noisy, and
unless you were near an airforce base you won't see one flying a low
altitude or speed; these planes are designed to fly high and fast, and are
not particularly good at low speed and altitude.
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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This is a litle off topic, but maybe someone here knows what this was.
Several years ago (5 maybe) in February, I was stargazing with a
friend. He was looking through his Dob & I was laying on my back
scanning the zenith with binoculars when a black delta winged aircraft
of some sort came into view. It had no running lights, made no
detectable sound & was flying at a lowish altitude (maybe about the
size of the moon in 7X50's), so I got a fairly decent view. I followed
it for as long as I could on its northerly flight path. I told my
friend what I had seen & he had no idea. I live 40 miles North of
Tampa...... Blackbird maybe?



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Old October 6th 03, 09:15 PM
Bob May
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You could have seen anything from a F117 to a B1, depending upon the shape
of the craft. Both of those craft are a bit quieter than most of the jets
about. I'll also note that they probably will be completely silent
approaching and only have a low rumble as they leave if at a really low
altitude.

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Old October 6th 03, 09:40 PM
Dan McKenna
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Bob May wrote:

You could have seen anything from a F117 to a B1, depending upon the shape
of the craft. Both of those craft are a bit quieter than most of the jets
about. I'll also note that they probably will be completely silent
approaching and only have a low rumble as they leave if at a really low
altitude.

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Last summer here in Tucson I saw a B1 during the day and it was loud ! It came
in over us at about
15,000 ft and went west making a turn towards the Airfield where a show was
going on.
My wife was talking about her garden and this and that about flowers and such.

you could here a big rumble all the time and she said pay attention to the
garden, not now dear
i need to see this, the B1 folded its wings and went in to dive where it
disappeared in to the tree line.
a few seconds later I saw it going all most vertical at a very high speed
where it opened its wings again
and flew off to the north. The most impressive display of raw power i have
ever witnessed.

It was loud, split the earth open loud.

Dan

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Old October 7th 03, 05:12 AM
Steve Hix
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In article ,
"Bob May" wrote:

You could have seen anything from a F117 to a B1, depending upon the shape
of the craft.


I think you mean B2, it's a flying wing.

Both of those craft are a bit quieter than most of the jets
about.


Definitely not a B1...they are very loud.

I'll also note that they probably will be completely silent
approaching and only have a low rumble as they leave if at a really low
altitude.

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Old October 7th 03, 06:05 AM
Tony Vinci
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Bob May wrote:

You could have seen anything from a F117 to a B1, depending upon the shape
of the craft. Both of those craft are a bit quieter than most of the jets
about.


I think that he meant the "B2". That's the delta shaped quiet one.
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Tony
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Old October 7th 03, 02:33 PM
mark d. doiron
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"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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Definitely not a B1...they are very loud.


Steve--

yeah. living under the downwind leg for the depot for the b-1, i can assure
you that you know when they're flying. i also know when a b-2 is flying
about, but they are more quiet. but i'd never describe a b-2 as delta
winged (op). i'd guess an f-117 stealth fighter. distinct delta wing shape
when viewed from below.

of course, all of them are a **whole** lot more quiet than the old kc-135
water burners. now there was a noisy rascal!

clear, dark skies--

mark d.


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Old October 8th 03, 03:44 AM
Steve Hix
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In article ,
"mark d. doiron" wrote:

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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Definitely not a B1...they are very loud.


Steve--

yeah. living under the downwind leg for the depot for the b-1, i can assure
you that you know when they're flying. i also know when a b-2 is flying
about, but they are more quiet. but i'd never describe a b-2 as delta
winged (op). i'd guess an f-117 stealth fighter. distinct delta wing shape
when viewed from below.


I get to spend a week/ten days at an historical reenactment near the
southern part of Sequoia Nat'l park each summer. The site is a couple
miles west of the canyon of the Kern river, and occasionally fast things
transit the area, usually along the canyon. The B-1s are *loud*, but it
is a little strange to see an F-117 circle the site a couple of times,
perhaps wondering what all the tents are about. About 1756 is about
right.

Wonderful dark site at about 5500'. There must be some way to slip a
telescope in that wouldn't clash with the 1750-1840 ambiance...

Next year. Maybe.

of course, all of them are a **whole** lot more quiet than the old kc-135
water burners. now there was a noisy rascal!


Never heard one, although they are often invoke as the criterion for
LOUD.

clear, dark skies--

mark d.


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Old October 8th 03, 02:28 PM
mark d. doiron
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"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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The site is a couple miles west of the canyon of
the Kern river


Steve--

my son and i camped at buckeye flat campground in southern sequoia np this
past summer during our annual 3-4 week extended camping trip. beautiful
place. an especial joy was the backpacking part of the trip when we pitched
out tent under the sequoias (in king's canyon). heh-heh. in the photo
collage at this link . . .

http://members.cox.net/mdoiron/per_vac2003.htm

.. . . i call the picture of our tent by the tree the "sometimes you just
don't have enough rope to hang your backpack from the nearest tree". :-)

clear, dark skies--

mark d.



 




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