The media (CNN) does it again!

Alas! Sagittarius is NOT "our nearest galactic neighbour" or "..the
Sagittarius galaxy" as reported on CNN. Our local newspaper also reported
it as as separate galaxy. It even had a artists rendition of our milky way
galaxy drawing in this ribbon of material from far outside our galaxy and
calling it Sagittarius!!....

Here is the correction..Sag is in fact a cloud of stars toward the center
of our galaxy...

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010520.html

Alas! Sagittarius is NOT "our nearest galactic neighbour" or "..the
Sagittarius galaxy" as reported on CNN. Our local newspaper also reported
it as as separate galaxy. It even had a artists rendition of our milky way
galaxy drawing in this ribbon of material from far outside our galaxy and

Hi:

What they are talking about, which is admittedly not overly clear, is, I
believe the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy.

Peace,
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"Mick" wrote in message
.. .
Alas! Sagittarius is NOT "our nearest galactic neighbour" or "..the
Sagittarius galaxy" as reported on CNN. Our local newspaper also reported
it as as separate galaxy. It even had a artists rendition of our milky
way
galaxy drawing in this ribbon of material from far outside our galaxy and
calling it Sagittarius!!....

Here is the correction..Sag is in fact a cloud of stars toward the center
of our galaxy...

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010520.html

But they are talking about the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, a faint, thin star
cloud separate from our own galaxy, which was discovered in 1994.

I wrote to them already and told them mixing up Sagittarius with the
Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy would be like mixing up England with New England.

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient Latin
name?


--
Clear skies,

Michael Covington -- www.covingtoninnovations.com
Author, Astrophotography for the Amateur
and (new) How to Use a Computerized Telescope

But they are talking about the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, a faint, thin
star
cloud separate from our own galaxy, which was discovered in 1994.

I wrote to them already and told them mixing up Sagittarius with the
Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy would be like mixing up England with New England.

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient Latin
name?


--


Yes..The Sagittarius dwarf
galaxy was discovered in 1994 and is hardly distinguishable
from the background of stars in that direction of the galaxy.
It is a separate satellite galaxy of the Milky Way (like
the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds) located
almost in line with the center of the Milky Way (and thus
lying in Sagittarius) but twice as distant.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 12:44:32 -0400, "Michael A. Covington"
wrote:

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient Latin
name?

Well, even this new galaxy is still called Sagittarius, no? And of course, you
still have a good chunk of the astronomical community using the Latin genitive
when naming objects in constellations. And newly discovered minor planets
frequently get ancient names applied.

There are a few dead languages that are still kicking a bit. g

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

"Rod Mollise" wrote in message
...
Alas! Sagittarius is NOT "our nearest galactic neighbour" or "..the
Sagittarius galaxy" as reported on CNN. Our local newspaper also
reported
it as as separate galaxy. It even had a artists rendition of our milky
way
galaxy drawing in this ribbon of material from far outside our galaxy and

Hi:

What they are talking about, which is admittedly not overly clear, is, I
believe the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy.

The original cnn report included the following
"On its way to oblivion, the dwarf Sagittarius -- which is about 10,000
times the mass of the Milky Way -- is getting stretched, torn apart and
ultimately eaten, scientists at the University of Virginia and the
University of Massachusetts reported"

only later did they amend it to 10000 times _smaller_.

In all fairness to CNN, check out what I assume is the source press
release from the Univ. of VA:

http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/

Seems like CNN is just reporting what has been provided by the source.

---
Michael

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:55:46 GMT, "Mick" inscribed in
blood upon a parchment:


But they are talking about the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, a faint, thin
star
cloud separate from our own galaxy, which was discovered in 1994.

I wrote to them already and told them mixing up Sagittarius with the
Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy would be like mixing up England with New England.

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient Latin
name?


--


Yes..The Sagittarius dwarf
galaxy was discovered in 1994 and is hardly distinguishable
from the background of stars in that direction of the galaxy.
It is a separate satellite galaxy of the Milky Way (like
the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds) located
almost in line with the center of the Milky Way (and thus
lying in Sagittarius) but twice as distant.


Sort of. There are two minor galaxies in Sagittarius: the Sagittarius
Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (SAGDEC) at 80 kly (half the distance of the
Magellanic clouds) and then there is the Sagittarius Dwarf Irregular
Galaxy (SAGDIC) at 4.2 million ly away. SAGDEC is the one being
smushed by the Milkyway. SAGDEC has four globs: Arp 2, Terzan 7 and
Terzan 8 and of course M54, and possibly Palomar 12 was captured from
it in the past.

http://www.seds.org/messier/more/sagdeg.html
http://www.seds.org/~spider/spider/LG/sagdig.html
http://www.seds.org/~spider/spider/MWGC/mwgc.html

Best,
Dave

Author of the Supernovae and Supernova Remnants FAQ
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/
Visions of Light, Visions of Darkness - B&W Photography of Wessex
http://www.valinor.freeserve.co.uk/visions.html

"Morgoth" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:55:46 GMT, "Mick" inscribed in
blood upon a parchment:


But they are talking about the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, a faint, thin
star
cloud separate from our own galaxy, which was discovered in 1994.

I wrote to them already and told them mixing up Sagittarius with the
Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy would be like mixing up England with New
England.

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient
Latin
name?


--


Yes..The Sagittarius dwarf
galaxy was discovered in 1994 and is hardly distinguishable
from the background of stars in that direction of the galaxy.
It is a separate satellite galaxy of the Milky Way (like
the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds) located
almost in line with the center of the Milky Way (and thus
lying in Sagittarius) but twice as distant.


Sort of. There are two minor galaxies in Sagittarius: the Sagittarius
Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (SAGDEC) at 80 kly (half the distance of the
Magellanic clouds) and then there is the Sagittarius Dwarf Irregular
Galaxy (SAGDIC) at 4.2 million ly away. SAGDEC is the one being
smushed by the Milkyway. SAGDEC has four globs: Arp 2, Terzan 7 and
Terzan 8 and of course M54, and possibly Palomar 12 was captured from
it in the past.

lies..all lies

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 23:09:10 GMT, "Mick" inscribed in
blood upon a parchment:


"Morgoth" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 17:55:46 GMT, "Mick" inscribed in
blood upon a parchment:


But they are talking about the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, a faint, thin
star
cloud separate from our own galaxy, which was discovered in 1994.

I wrote to them already and told them mixing up Sagittarius with the
Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy would be like mixing up England with New
England.

If "Sagittarius" was discovered in 1994, why does it have an ancient
Latin
name?


--


Yes..The Sagittarius dwarf
galaxy was discovered in 1994 and is hardly distinguishable
from the background of stars in that direction of the galaxy.
It is a separate satellite galaxy of the Milky Way (like
the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds) located
almost in line with the center of the Milky Way (and thus
lying in Sagittarius) but twice as distant.


Sort of. There are two minor galaxies in Sagittarius: the Sagittarius
Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (SAGDEC) at 80 kly (half the distance of the
Magellanic clouds) and then there is the Sagittarius Dwarf Irregular
Galaxy (SAGDIC) at 4.2 million ly away. SAGDEC is the one being
smushed by the Milkyway. SAGDEC has four globs: Arp 2, Terzan 7 and
Terzan 8 and of course M54, and possibly Palomar 12 was captured from
it in the past.

lies..all lies


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Best,
Dave
Author of the TalkOrigins Supernovae and Supernova Remnants FAQ
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/supernova/
Visions of Light, Visions of Darkness - Photography of Wessex
http://www.valinor.freeserve.co.uk/visions.html
Conception 2004 - the South Coast Gaming Convention
http://www.wessexgaming.org
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