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Old November 20th 11, 02:25 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Sam Wormley[_2_]
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Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch

http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ear-old-a.html

NVP3D: The oldest known mechanism to use clockwork gears, called the
Antikythera after the place it was discovered, was found in an ancient
Greek shipwreck more than a hundred years ago. The device, of which only
82 badly corroded fragments remain, not only predicted solar eclipses
but also organized the calendar in the four-year cycles of the Olympiad,
forerunner of the modern Olympic Games. The watchmaker Hublot has now
miniaturized the Antikythera from the size of a shoebox to something
that you can wear on your wrist. This version also tells the time.

See:
http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ear-old-a.html

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Old November 20th 11, 07:29 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 20, 3:25*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch

http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y...

NVP3D: The oldest known mechanism to use clockwork gears, called the
Antikythera after the place it was discovered, was found in an ancient
Greek shipwreck more than a hundred years ago. The device, of which only
82 badly corroded fragments remain, not only predicted solar eclipses
but also organized the calendar in the four-year cycles of the Olympiad,
forerunner of the modern Olympic Games. The watchmaker Hublot has now
miniaturized the Antikythera from the size of a shoebox to something
that you can wear on your wrist. This version also tells the time.

See:http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y....


None of you accept the basis for predicting astronomical events within
the 4 year calendar system which formats the annual cycles as
continuous rotations of the Earth or as the creators of the
Antikythera mechanism would have understood it as a progression of
days.At least the current engineering guys are practical when it comes
to timekeeping,they don't have to consider the applications to
astronomy nor the principles derived from astronomy hence their
irritation with the 'leap second' indulgences which arose a few
decades ago by people who never understood what leap corrections
amounted to.

Anything based on a 4 year cycle is based on 4 orbital circuits of the
Earth around the Sun and the number of days/rotations that correspond
to these circuits.It is not your stubborn refusal to accept 1461
rotations in 1461 days but inability of people to feel shock at the
attempted imbalance of 1465 rotations in 1461 days that is truly
astonishing.The most visible sign of self-loathing is not attacks
against me as a substitute for ignoring the actual principles which
keep rotations in proportion to an orbital cycle but rather the sin of
silence,people do actually know what is correct and fail to act
whether you know it or not.







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Old November 20th 11, 11:02 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Mike Collins[_4_]
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Default Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch

oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 20, 3:25 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch

http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y...

NVP3D: The oldest known mechanism to use clockwork gears, called the
Antikythera after the place it was discovered, was found in an ancient
Greek shipwreck more than a hundred years ago. The device, of which only
82 badly corroded fragments remain, not only predicted solar eclipses
but also organized the calendar in the four-year cycles of the Olympiad,
forerunner of the modern Olympic Games. The watchmaker Hublot has now
miniaturized the Antikythera from the size of a shoebox to something
that you can wear on your wrist. This version also tells the time.

See:http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y...


None of you accept the basis for predicting astronomical events within
the 4 year calendar system which formats the annual cycles as
continuous rotations of the Earth or as the creators of the
Antikythera mechanism would have understood it as a progression of
days.At least the current engineering guys are practical when it comes
to timekeeping,they don't have to consider the applications to
astronomy nor the principles derived from astronomy hence their
irritation with the 'leap second' indulgences which arose a few
decades ago by people who never understood what leap corrections
amounted to.

Anything based on a 4 year cycle is based on 4 orbital circuits of the
Earth around the Sun and the number of days/rotations that correspond
to these circuits.It is not your stubborn refusal to accept 1461
rotations in 1461 days but inability of people to feel shock at the
attempted imbalance of 1465 rotations in 1461 days that is truly
astonishing.The most visible sign of self-loathing is not attacks
against me as a substitute for ignoring the actual principles which
keep rotations in proportion to an orbital cycle but rather the sin of
silence,people do actually know what is correct and fail to act
whether you know it or not.


That's because the rotation of the Earth does not depend on the orbital
cycle. There are linkages but the fixed proportions you crave are an
illusion. Tides are causing the Earth to slow down, earthquakes cause the
rotation to speed up. We live in a universe of change but you reject this
in favour of your static clockwork anthropomorphised vision.
Lift your head out of the sand and look at the stars.
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Old November 20th 11, 11:17 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
oriel36[_2_]
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Default Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch

On Nov 20, 12:02*pm, Mike Collins wrote:
oriel36 wrote:
On Nov 20, 3:25 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Rebuilding the 2000-year-old Antikythera as a watch


http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y....


NVP3D: The oldest known mechanism to use clockwork gears, called the
Antikythera after the place it was discovered, was found in an ancient
Greek shipwreck more than a hundred years ago. The device, of which only
82 badly corroded fragments remain, not only predicted solar eclipses
but also organized the calendar in the four-year cycles of the Olympiad,
forerunner of the modern Olympic Games. The watchmaker Hublot has now
miniaturized the Antikythera from the size of a shoebox to something
that you can wear on your wrist. This version also tells the time.


See:http://blogs.physicstoday.org/newspi...ing-the-2000-y...


None of you accept the basis for predicting astronomical events within
the 4 year calendar system which formats the annual cycles as
continuous rotations of the Earth or as the creators of the
Antikythera mechanism would have understood it as a progression of
days.At least the current engineering guys are practical when it comes
to timekeeping,they don't have to consider the applications to
astronomy nor the principles derived from astronomy hence their
irritation with the 'leap second' indulgences which arose a few
decades ago by people who never understood what leap corrections
amounted to.


Anything based on a 4 year cycle is based on 4 orbital circuits of the
Earth around the Sun and the number of days/rotations that correspond
to these circuits.It is not your stubborn refusal to accept 1461
rotations in 1461 days but inability of people to feel shock at the
attempted imbalance of 1465 *rotations in 1461 days that is truly
astonishing.The most visible sign of self-loathing is not attacks
against me as a substitute for ignoring the actual principles which
keep rotations in proportion to an orbital cycle but rather the sin of
silence,people do actually know what is correct and fail to act
whether you know it or not.


That's because the rotation of the Earth does not depend on the orbital
cycle.


How does anyone go to work and call themselves an astronomer and not
know the proportion of rotations to each orbital circuit and from
there to the central Sun yet this is what the population gets for
spending many,many billions a year because you unfortunate creatures
insist on 1465 rotations in 1461 days.

Even when given so many chances to act like astronomers and doctorates
nothing happens except things get worse,the engineering guys simply
took the issue out of your hands and even the Ra/Dec reasoning
disappears leaving no trace at all as to the links between the
convenience of a linear progression of time that is human timekeeping
from the cyclical planetary dynamics from which the system arose in
the first place.

I ask again,how,for goodness sake,can human beings believe that the 24
hour/360 degree rotation of the Earth does not cause day to turn to
night and temperatures to go up and down in step with that
rotation ?.The curtain rises on the most fundamental questions humans
can ask themselves and yet none of you can answer the question
correctly should you choose 1465 rotations in 1461 days.

I don't see these as dark days,I see only opportunities for people to
correct matters,accept the very short period of humiliation and move
on.



There are linkages but the fixed proportions you crave are an
illusion. Tides are causing the Earth to slow down, earthquakes cause the
rotation to speed up. We live in a universe of change but you reject this
in favour of your static clockwork anthropomorphised vision.
Lift your head out of the sand and look at the stars.


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Old November 20th 11, 07:03 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Nov 20, 12:17*pm, oriel36 wrote:
snip drivel.


Stupid troll.
 




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