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Old July 11th 04, 08:11 AM
Todd Smith
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What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?

-thanks
-Todd
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Old July 11th 04, 09:30 AM
Tom McDonald
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Todd Smith wrote:

What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?

-thanks
-Todd


Todd,

Going to school at Auburn, eh? Is this for a class? Folks
generally are quite willing to work with students on such
things, but really hate being used to do someone's homework for
them. Truth is your best approach, Todd.

Tom McDonald
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Old July 11th 04, 09:30 AM
Tom McDonald
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Todd Smith wrote:

What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?

-thanks
-Todd


Todd,

Going to school at Auburn, eh? Is this for a class? Folks
generally are quite willing to work with students on such
things, but really hate being used to do someone's homework for
them. Truth is your best approach, Todd.

Tom McDonald
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Old July 11th 04, 01:14 PM
Paul Schlyter
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In article ,
Todd Smith wrote:

What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?


Total velocity relative to what?

You have to supply a reference point of some kind, or else the
veolocity will remain undefined.

And you'll also need to supply a date and time and geographical
position, since the "total velocity" you're after is dependent
on all these quantities.

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Old July 11th 04, 01:14 PM
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Default Speed of the Earth

In article ,
Todd Smith wrote:

What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?


Total velocity relative to what?

You have to supply a reference point of some kind, or else the
veolocity will remain undefined.

And you'll also need to supply a date and time and geographical
position, since the "total velocity" you're after is dependent
on all these quantities.

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e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se
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Old July 11th 04, 04:53 PM
N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)
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Default Speed of the Earth

Dear Todd Smith:

"Todd Smith" wrote in message
m...
What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?


You could look up the anisotropy of the CMBR, which can correlate to a
linear velocity measurement.

Universal expansion does not provide for a velocity, per se, since the net
velocity of all objects at r = x is about the same.

David A. Smith


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Old July 11th 04, 04:53 PM
N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)
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Default Speed of the Earth

Dear Todd Smith:

"Todd Smith" wrote in message
m...
What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?


You could look up the anisotropy of the CMBR, which can correlate to a
linear velocity measurement.

Universal expansion does not provide for a velocity, per se, since the net
velocity of all objects at r = x is about the same.

David A. Smith


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Old July 12th 04, 12:43 AM
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 08:53:56 -0700, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" N:
dlzc1 D:cox wrote:

Dear Todd Smith:

"Todd Smith" wrote in message
om...
What is the total velocity (say, of a point 5ft above the surface of
the earth) of the motion we experience every day when you take into
account all the translations, rotations and orbits of the earth
through the solar system and the solar system through the galaxy, and
the expansion of the universe (given an independent coordinate
system)?


You could look up the anisotropy of the CMBR, which can correlate to a
linear velocity measurement.

Universal expansion does not provide for a velocity, per se, since the net
velocity of all objects at r = x is about the same.

David A. Smith

David, what is the `experience' of anisotrophic CMBR. Do you
`experience' a `red shift'. Truth of the matter is that there is no
`experience' of `total velocity' on earth because we move in the same
frame of reference. If you just have to come up with something simple,
we do experience aging as sun rises and sets and the swift seasons
roll by, (passage of time). That would be my final answer.


 




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