Moon's shadow creates a wake

Moon's shadow creates a wake
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/47461

"During a total solar eclipse the Moon comes directly between the Sun
and the Earth, casting a dark shadow that moves across land and sea.
Now, researchers in Taiwan and Japan have shown that this shadow creates
a pocket of high-pressure air that cuts through the atmosphere much like
a boat through water – leaving a discernible wake. As well as confirming
a 40-year-old prediction, the discovery could have implications for how
nuclear tests are monitored.

"Along with plunging a region into darkness, an eclipse also causes a
sudden cooling of the atmosphere. The effect this has on atmospheric
pressure is complicated and not properly understood. Some places cool
faster than others, creating regions where the pressure increases".

See: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/47461

On Oct 14, 6:52*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Moon's shadow creates a wake
* *http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/47461

"During a total solar eclipse the Moon comes directly between the Sun
and the Earth, casting a dark shadow that moves across land and sea.
Now, researchers in Taiwan and Japan have shown that this shadow creates
a pocket of high-pressure air that cuts through the atmosphere much like
a boat through water – leaving a discernible wake. As well as confirming
a 40-year-old prediction, the discovery could have implications for how
nuclear tests are monitored.

"Along with plunging a region into darkness, an eclipse also causes a
sudden cooling of the atmosphere. The effect this has on atmospheric
pressure is complicated and not properly understood. Some places cool
faster than others, creating regions where the pressure increases".

See:http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/47461

So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation ?.It is not no much begging
a question as demonstrating how far you will go to support the only
person who proposed lunar rotation -

http://books.google.ie/books?id=gB2-...page&q&f=false

Men can already look out from the near side of the moon and know that
the planet will always be in view save the period of obscurity caused
by the light of the Sun but never,ever that it turns 360 degrees to
the Earth.I don't know how any of you do it yet somehow you will
actually believe what Isaac dictates even when the previous page is an
assault on the eyes in terms of Venus and the Earth.

Astronomers indeed !,how I wish that were true.

On Oct 14, 10:17*am, oriel36 wrote:

Men can already look out from the near side of the moon and know that
the planet will always be in view save the period of obscurity caused
by the *light of the Sun but never,ever that it turns 360 degrees to
the Earth...

Correct, wrt the Earth, but those same men could look out from the far
side of the moon, never seeing our planet at all, and see the stars,
the other planets and the sun rise and set every 20-something days,
and would certainly conclude that the moon was turning wrt to those
objects... just what is so hard to understand about this?

I know nobody takes lunar rotation seriously even if somehow it is
entertained in the confines of Newton's toxic strain of empiricism.

Intrinsic rotation is simply borrowed from daily experience,there is
no mystery to it and as far as it goes the details rely on recognizing
a maximum equatorial speed with speeds down to its polar latitudes.The
Earth has an equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour which
correlates with its Equatorial circumference of 24901 miles and from
there to its planetary radius and diameter,for those who previously
posed two 360 degree rotations for the planet they may wish to
consider the details which refer the equatorial circumference to the
orbital circumference in maintaining a fixed proportion between
rotations and an orbital circuit.This is what stumped promoters of the
ridiculous 'lunar rotation' affliction back in the mid 19th century -

http://books.google.ie/books?id=MfU3...g e&q&f=false

We are all grown men now,engineering has put men on the moon and this
mindnumbing 'lunar rotation' ideology is an insult to the achievement
of putting people on the moon and the ability to interpret what they
see.

The constant rotation of the Earth is an assumption however the fact
that there are 1461 rotations in 1461 days tends to affirm the
constancy as the leap day correction of a 24 hour rotation but this
issue is for a different time and a more receptive audience.

I am certain that readers just want to get on with their
magnification exercise knowing the limitations of Ra/Dec and why it is
not a good idea to try to impose experimental sciences directly into
the celestial arena using 1461 rotations broken into the format of the
calendar system or the core 'scientific method' as it became
known.There is a way where experimental sciences become useful again
as soon as men realize that they are in the 21st century and don't
need to lean on late 17th century ideologies which tried to do too
much with too little information.

On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:
So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation.

Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!

Equatorial rotation velocity of the moon is 4.627 m/s
Equatorial radius is 1738.14 km

Using the definition of Angular Velocity

ω = v/r

where ω is the angular (rotational) velocity, v is the tangential
equatorial velocity and r is the equatorial radius of the moon.

Sample Calculation
http://www.google.com/search?q=4.627...%2F+1738.14+km

Resulting in
Lunar angular velocity = 2.662 X 10^-6 Rad/s
which comes out to be 2360000 seconds (27.32 days) for
a 2π (360°) rotation.

Which just happens to be VERY CLOSE to the lunar orbital sidereal
month of 27.321662 days as noted in the Astronomical Almanac. Gee
what a coincidence! Given a bit of Libration due to the eccentricity
of the moon's orbit, the moon tends to keep the same side pointed
toward the earth.

Sample Calculation

http://www.google.com/search?q=360+d...s%2Fs)+in+days

Similarly for the Earth:


The Earth has an intrinsic rotation of 1669 km per hour corresponding
to an equatorial circumference of 40075 km despite the fact that
empiricists believe it is another value -


Earth angular velocity = 7.2921158553 X 10^-5 Rad/s
which comes out to be 86164.0905 seconds (1 sidereal day) for
a 2π (360°) rotation.

Sample Calculation

http://www.google.com/search?q=360+d...%29+in+seconds

On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:
So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates

Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!

Equatorial rotation velocity of the moon is 4.627 m/s
Equatorial radius is 1738.14 km

Using the definition of Angular Velocity

ω = v/r

where ω is the angular (rotational) velocity, v is the tangential
equatorial velocity and r is the equatorial radius of the moon.

Sample Calculation
http://www.google.com/search?q=4.627...%2F+1738.14+km

Resulting in
Lunar angular velocity = 2.662 X 10^-6 Rad/s
which comes out to be 2360000 seconds (27.32 days) for
a 2π (360°) rotation.

Which just happens to be VERY CLOSE to the lunar orbital sidereal
month of 27.321662 days as noted in the Astronomical Almanac. Gee
what a coincidence! Given a bit of Libration due to the eccentricity
of the moon's orbit, the moon tends to keep the same side pointed
toward the earth.

Sample Calculation

http://www.google.com/search?q=360+d...s%2Fs)+in+days

Similarly for the Earth:


The Earth has an intrinsic rotation of 1669 km per hour corresponding
to an equatorial circumference of 40075 km despite the fact that
empiricists believe it is another value -


Earth angular velocity = 7.2921158553 X 10^-5 Rad/s
which comes out to be 86164.0905 seconds (1 sidereal day) for
a 2π (360°) rotation.

Sample Calculation

http://www.google.com/search?q=360+d...%29+in+seconds

On Oct 14, 11:58*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:

So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and *common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation.

* *Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!



I can show you the daily rotation of the Earth where you,I and
everyone else on the surface here is sharing the experience of that
motion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXCnxoixb-s

I can;t show you lunar rotation as the moon doesn't rotate

http://www.glogster.com/media/3/7/12/20/7122040.jpg

Students require more than a few people to snap out of that dismal
condition which cannot interpret imaging and experience and there is
something so desperately irritating in watching people trade away
their intelligence for no good reason while inflicting damage on
students by attacking their natural interpretative faculties so you
and your cronies can let your imaginations run amok while calling
yourselves astronomers.

On 15/10/2011 05:54, oriel36 wrote:
On Oct 14, 11:58 pm, Sam wrote:
On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:

So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation.

Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!



I can show you the daily rotation of the Earth where you,I and
everyone else on the surface here is sharing the experience of that
motion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXCnxoixb-s

I can;t show you lunar rotation as the moon doesn't rotate

There you go, the moon's rotation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIB_leg75Q

End of argument.

On Oct 15, 3:33*pm, OG wrote:
On 15/10/2011 05:54, oriel36 wrote:









On Oct 14, 11:58 pm, Sam *wrote:
On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:

So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and *common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation.

* * Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!

I can show you the daily rotation of the Earth *where you,I and
everyone else *on the surface here is sharing the experience of that
motion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXCnxoixb-s

I can;t show you lunar rotation as the moon doesn't rotate

There you go, the moon's rotation:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIB_leg75Q

End of argument.

A cartoon and if that is all you can manage then fine,it wouldn't have
expected any more than that.

For astronomers the argument is not against lunar rotation,that is
simply absurd to begin with,it is distinguishing planetary and orbital
behaviors as the Earth has a single orbital daylight/darkness cycle
coincident with the orbital period of the planet.When asked to
interpret the East/West orbital component of Uranus there are no
astronomers to be seen and unlike the moon which keeps the same face
to the Earth in its orbit of the Earth,the Earth turns slowly and
unevenly to the central Sun and that is a 100% observational
certainty.

As the polar coordinates turn in a 10366 mile circle to the Sun it
defines a 'traveling orbital axis' for this rotation which runs
through the center of the Earth from Arctic to Antarctic circles
whereas on Uranus that traveling axis is located through the center of
the planet from Equator to Equator,not quite but close enough to carry
the point -

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/...gs_changes.jpg

In its orbital motion around the Earth the moon doesn't even have that
feature let alone intrinsic rotation so that when an able interpreter
looks at the images of the moon from the Earth they can make the only
conclusion possible -

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/graphics/Moon_phases.jpg

Of course the people who can argue against the cause and effect of
daily temperature oscillations due to the rotation of the Earth can
argue for anything but invariably the opposite of what is
true.Again,it is not that you state something as dumb as intrinsic
lunar rotation that is the problem,it is that you can do so without
fear of objection.All those fine constellation observers with their
homely reports only show people who are impressed with themselves for
if you can't look out on the moon and its orbital motion around the
Earth and draw the only conclusion possible then the issue is pretense
which happens to be anti-astronomical in content and character.If
readers concentrated more on the topics and less on personal feelings
and insults they would eventually come to understand that it is the
competitive spirit at the heart of astronomy that moves that
discipline forward.

Lunar rotation indeed !,the idea of grown men entertaining that idea
is simply awful.

On 15/10/2011 16:20, oriel36 wrote:
On Oct 15, 3:33 pm, wrote:
On 15/10/2011 05:54, oriel36 wrote:









On Oct 14, 11:58 pm, Sam wrote:
On 10/14/11 12:17 PM, oriel36 wrote:

So Sam,do you still believe the moon has a maximum equatorial speed
diminishing to 0 at the polar coordinates and common to all rotating
celestial objects with intrinsic rotation.

Not a matter of belief, Gerald, it's a matter of measured!

I can show you the daily rotation of the Earth where you,I and
everyone else on the surface here is sharing the experience of that
motion -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXCnxoixb-s

I can;t show you lunar rotation as the moon doesn't rotate

There you go, the moon's rotation:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIB_leg75Q

End of argument.

A cartoon and if that is all you can manage then fine,it wouldn't have
expected any more than that.


Oh do shut up, you fool.

Do you think the sun goes around the moon every month?