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Old June 14th 11, 06:48 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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nightbat

What Came Before The Known Universe?

Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force. It does not exist in math because you can't
close the field without invoking hocus bocus fantasy Sci fi math
presentations. Dr Tesla and Dr.Einstein pondered that question but the
answer was not in this time dimension. It took the nightbat to explain
you can't deduce mathematically what doesn't presently exist. There
was no big bang and there are no real world black holes, they are
( Black Comets ).

The space field has memory ( Plastic State ) of it's once perfect
uniform state, it is it's 0 ground state, and tries to take the
quickest path to it. The cause of gravity is the field trying to
return to it's base uniformity but it takes a force equal or greater
to acheive same with none in sight. The immense force necessary is
missing. There are upper limits to star mass formation ( Chandra )
just as ( nightbat ) Black Comets.

See:
http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/05_...ss_021505.html

Once you know what's the ghost in the math you can deduce the
Universe.


ponder on,
the nightbat
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Old June 14th 11, 02:09 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jun 14, 1:48*am, nightbat wrote:
nightbat

What Came Before The Known Universe?

* * * * * *Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force. It does not exist in math because you can't
close the field without invoking hocus bocus fantasy Sci fi math
presentations. Dr Tesla and Dr.Einstein pondered that question but the
answer was not in this time dimension. It took the nightbat to explain
you can't deduce mathematically what doesn't presently exist. There
was no big bang and there are no real world black holes, they are
( Black Comets ).

The space field has memory ( Plastic State ) of it's once perfect
uniform state, it is it's 0 ground state, and tries to take the
quickest path to it. The cause of gravity is the field trying to
return to it's base uniformity but it takes a force equal or greater
to acheive same with none in sight. The immense force necessary is
missing. There are upper limits to star mass formation ( Chandra )
just as ( nightbat ) Black Comets.

See:http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/05_...ss_021505.html

Once you know what's the ghost in the math you can deduce the
Universe.

* * * * * * * * ponder on,
* * * * * * * * the nightbat


nightbat I had your "Black Comets" as black holes??? Hawkings told us
black holes can come in size of comets. Please explain your "black
comet" TreBert
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Old June 15th 11, 12:37 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jun 13, 10:48*pm, nightbat wrote:
nightbat

What Came Before The Known Universe?



Well it was "unkown" of course.


* * * * * *Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force. It does not exist in math because you can't
close the field without invoking hocus bocus fantasy Sci fi math
presentations. Dr Tesla and Dr.Einstein pondered that question but the
answer was not in this time dimension. It took the nightbat to explain
you can't deduce mathematically what doesn't presently exist. There
was no big bang



I have long suspected so!


and there are no real world black holes, they are
( Black Comets ).



Perhaps there are nevertheyless imaginary black holes corresponding to
imaginary numbers! Did you know that Octonians have seven imaginary
components?


The space field has memory ( Plastic State ) of it's once perfect
uniform state, it is it's 0 ground state, and tries to take the
quickest path to it. The cause of gravity is the field trying to
return to it's base uniformity but it takes a force equal or greater
to acheive same with none in sight. The immense force necessary is
missing. There are upper limits to star mass formation ( Chandra )
just as ( nightbat ) Black Comets.

See:http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/05_...ss_021505.html

Once you know what's the ghost in the math you can deduce the
Universe.

* * * * * * * * ponder on,
* * * * * * * * the nightbat



What if the universe is not based on math?

Double-A

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Old June 21st 11, 12:26 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jun 14, 7:37*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Jun 13, 10:48*pm, nightbat wrote:

nightbat


What Came Before The Known Universe?


Well it was "unkown" of course.

* * * * * *Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force. It does not exist in math because you can't
close the field without invoking hocus bocus fantasy Sci fi math
presentations. Dr Tesla and Dr.Einstein pondered that question but the
answer was not in this time dimension. It took the nightbat to explain
you can't deduce mathematically what doesn't presently exist. There
was no big bang


I have long suspected so!

*and there are no real world black holes, they are

( Black Comets ).


Perhaps there are nevertheyless imaginary black holes corresponding to
imaginary numbers! *Did you know that Octonians have seven imaginary
components?

The space field has memory ( Plastic State ) of it's once perfect
uniform state, it is it's 0 ground state, and tries to take the
quickest path to it. The cause of gravity is the field trying to
return to it's base uniformity but it takes a force equal or greater
to acheive same with none in sight. The immense force necessary is
missing. There are upper limits to star mass formation ( Chandra )
just as ( nightbat ) Black Comets.


See:http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/05_...ss_021505.html


Once you know what's the ghost in the math you can deduce the
Universe.


* * * * * * * * ponder on,
* * * * * * * * the nightbat


What if the universe is not based on math?

Double-A


Universe is based on probability . That fits in with Heisenberg's
uncertainty All measurements large and small are aproximations
Feynman can fudge math. Mother nature balances stuff very well,so best
man uses balancing scale. O ya TreBert
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Old June 23rd 11, 10:10 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:48:25 -0700 (PDT), nightbat
wrote:

nightbat

What Came Before The Known Universe?

Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force.


As immense as this universe and beyond is, limitless in size, don't
you think that the evolutionary processes that took us from the state
of energy in its purest form to what we have today are still going on
outside the known universe and that the universe itself is in a state
of ever increasing expansion?

J.A.
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Old June 24th 11, 04:02 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jun 21, 7:26*am, herbert glazier wrote:
On Jun 14, 7:37*pm, Double-A wrote:



On Jun 13, 10:48*pm, nightbat wrote:


nightbat


What Came Before The Known Universe?


Well it was "unkown" of course.


* * * * * *Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force. It does not exist in math because you can't
close the field without invoking hocus bocus fantasy Sci fi math
presentations. Dr Tesla and Dr.Einstein pondered that question but the
answer was not in this time dimension. It took the nightbat to explain
you can't deduce mathematically what doesn't presently exist. There
was no big bang


I have long suspected so!


*and there are no real world black holes, they are


( Black Comets ).


Perhaps there are nevertheyless imaginary black holes corresponding to
imaginary numbers! *Did you know that Octonians have seven imaginary
components?


The space field has memory ( Plastic State ) of it's once perfect
uniform state, it is it's 0 ground state, and tries to take the
quickest path to it. The cause of gravity is the field trying to
return to it's base uniformity but it takes a force equal or greater
to acheive same with none in sight. The immense force necessary is
missing. There are upper limits to star mass formation ( Chandra )
just as ( nightbat ) Black Comets.


See:http://chandra.harvard.edu/press/05_...ss_021505.html


Once you know what's the ghost in the math you can deduce the
Universe.


* * * * * * * * ponder on,
* * * * * * * * the nightbat


What if the universe is not based on math?


Double-A


Universe is based on probability . That fits in with Heisenberg's
uncertainty All measurements large and small are aproximations
Feynman can fudge math. Mother nature balances stuff very well,so best
man uses balancing scale. O ya * TreBert


Imperial thinkers fudge at the start of the BB saying there was more
matter than antimatter. My time laps theory gives the answer. Treb is
nodding his head Treb
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Old July 9th 11, 11:57 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jun 23, 2:10*pm, John Ayres wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:48:25 -0700 (PDT), nightbat

wrote:
nightbat


What Came Before The Known Universe?


* * * * * Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force.


As immense as this universe and beyond is, limitless in size, don't
you think that the evolutionary processes that took us from the state
of energy in its purest form to what we have today are still going on
outside the known universe and that the universe itself is in a state
of ever increasing expansion?

J.A.


The universe can keep on expanding and yet stay the same by adding to
its own matter. It's called Hoyle's Steady State Theory.

Double-A

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Old July 10th 11, 12:09 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jul 9, 3:57*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Jun 23, 2:10*pm, John Ayres wrote:









On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:48:25 -0700 (PDT), nightbat


wrote:
nightbat


What Came Before The Known Universe?


* * * * * Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force.


As immense as this universe and beyond is, limitless in size, don't
you think that the evolutionary processes that took us from the state
of energy in its purest form to what we have today are still going on
outside the known universe and that the universe itself is in a state
of ever increasing expansion?


J.A.


The universe can keep on expanding *and yet stay the same by adding to
its own matter. *It's called Hoyle's Steady State Theory.

Double-A


So what else did Fred Hoyle have to say about other universes?

Since there's no shortage of mass, what if our universe had stopped
expanding as of a billion years ago? (will any humans survive long
enough to ever detect the blueshift, or even the zero redshift?

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Old July 10th 11, 12:10 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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The Steady State theory was disproved LONG AGO, DA!

Saul Levy


On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:57:24 -0700 (PDT), Double-A
wrote:

On Jun 23, 2:10*pm, John Ayres wrote:
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 22:48:25 -0700 (PDT), nightbat

What Came Before The Known Universe?


* * * * * Many of my world wide fans wonder and ask that question,
answer simple, energy. Yes energy in it's purest form undisturbed in
perfect uniform motion. The field in equilibrium the united field
searched by so many mental greats but that does not presently exist in
this time. It is a relic of long ago era before it was acted upon by
unknown physical force.


As immense as this universe and beyond is, limitless in size, don't
you think that the evolutionary processes that took us from the state
of energy in its purest form to what we have today are still going on
outside the known universe and that the universe itself is in a state
of ever increasing expansion?

J.A.


The universe can keep on expanding and yet stay the same by adding to
its own matter. It's called Hoyle's Steady State Theory.

Double-A

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Old July 10th 11, 12:23 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Jul 9, 4:10*pm, wrote:
The Steady State theory was disproved LONG AGO, DA!

Saul Levy



Not "according to Hoyle".

Double-A

 




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