So What Happened to the Pictures from Opportunity???

Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most
interesting the data from Nasa just stops cold. What
are they hiding? It should be clear Nasa wishes to
end this mission with a certain 'spin', the hint of
life, and no more. To maximize the ability to fund a
sample return mission.

If they attempt to do so they don't deserve
a next mission.

If these scientists feel free to keep all the data to themselves
then the next mission can be paid for by....them.

The PUBLIC paid for ...this... mission.


Jonathan

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jonathan wrote:
|Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
|from now on?

How many days has it been now, 80 Sols or what? It is
an amazing success story so far!

|Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most
|interesting the data from Nasa just stops cold.

hmmmmmm

|What are they hiding?

Like it's hide-and-go-seek?

|It should be clear Nasa wishes to end this mission with a certain
|'spin', the hint of life, and no more. To maximize the ability to
|fund a sample return mission.

It would be a LOT less expensive if we started forging materials
directly from the Lunar surface if we want to explore Mars properly.

|If they attempt to do so they don't deserve a next mission.

All things in due time, but first we should establish a very firm
presence on the Moon:

Moon Exploration is the more Pressing Need.

Phase 1) Deployment of Lunar Seismometers
$50 million x 1 trip (one way) = 100 million
Phase 2) Polar Orbital Mission
$25 million x 2 trips (one way) = 100 million
Phase 3) Darkside Foundry Project
$20 million x 5 trips (one way) = 100 million

There you have it, a really cheap unmanned construction of a lunar
foundry for somewhere around $300 million dollars, well within the
budget of the US without asking for any assistance from any other
country.

__Notes__
1 We should first deploy a handful of Lunar Seismometers
(communications beacons) around the Moon in anticipation of the eventual
crashes of the two lunar polar orbiters (see below).
2 Two lunar polar orbiters loaded to the gill with broadband
spectral detectors complete with radar imaging equipment. No need for
landing gear, just keep them in a sufficiently high orbit until they
can't maintain their orbits any longer, at which point a final burn
causes them to strike the Moon's surface at a fairly high velocity;
the impacts are detected by the previously deployed seismometers. This
will tell us more about the Moon's interior than the previous trips ever
have.
3 The Darkside Foundry Project isn't really going to be dark except
for 2 weeks out of every 4 weeks. But we deploy it on the side of the
Moon that faces away from the Earth so that neurotic environmentalists
don't start rioting every time we find ourselves shipping building
supplies up there. As for building supplies, the first three trips up
there are just to set up huge solar energy panels that unfold themselves
over an area of a few square kilometers - remember what I just said
about neurotic environmentalists, that is why the Foundry is built on the
Darkside of the Moon - and once the power starts getting generated on
the cheap - even if it is only for a couple weeks out of a month -
the rest of the development can come along a whole lot faster than
you (or any neurotic environmentalist) can shake a stick at it.

Do you mean these cool pictures from April 21:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...20040421a.html

or this press release from April 22:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...20040422a.html

NASA has slowed way down on press conferences and keeping the web site
completely up to date - presumably due to reduce operating costs - but
the images are there. I do think they could do a better job of
summarizing exactly where the rovers are and doing, but so be it. I can
do without another press release where they highlight the stupid song of
the day over the science but the PR office must think it helps.

Alan Figgatt



jonathan wrote:
Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most
interesting the data from Nasa just stops cold. What
are they hiding? It should be clear Nasa wishes to
end this mission with a certain 'spin', the hint of
life, and no more. To maximize the ability to fund a
sample return mission.

If they attempt to do so they don't deserve
a next mission.

If these scientists feel free to keep all the data to themselves
then the next mission can be paid for by....them.

The PUBLIC paid for ...this... mission.


Jonathan

"jonathan" wrote in message
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Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?


Ummmm.....

They took several sols to load new software, something you might have
noticed if you were capable of reading and understanding simple sentences,
which seems somewhat doubtful.

Otherwise, they're getting less sunlight over time, thus less energy, so
they're likely getting shorter transmit times. I suspect you'll see a bunch
of pics from after the software reloading tomorrow .Of course, they'll have
edited out all the obvious sponge gemmules (snicker.)

jonathan wrote:
Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

The pictures are out of focus because this is the rainy season. The
cameras have become submerged, and sponges are growing in front of he
lenses. We will soon have no pictures at all, when the sponge forest
becomes so thick it will have generated enough tonnage of sponges to
keep every car-waxing teenager on Earth supplied for his or her natural
life.

There you have it, jonathan...the REST of the story!

Porifera Martia Forever!

In article , Jo Schaper
wrote:

jonathan wrote:
Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

The pictures are out of focus because this is the rainy season. The
cameras have become submerged, and sponges are growing in front of he
lenses. We will soon have no pictures at all, when the sponge forest
becomes so thick it will have generated enough tonnage of sponges to
keep every car-waxing teenager on Earth supplied for his or her natural
life.

There you have it, jonathan...the REST of the story!

Porifera Martia Forever!

I still hope seeing some green cheese too (Penicillium martianum) !?

J.J.

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:36:45 -0400, jonathan wrote:



Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day from now on?

Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most interesting the
data from Nasa just stops cold. What are they hiding? It should be clear
Nasa wishes to end this mission with a certain 'spin', the hint of life,
and no more. To maximize the ability to fund a sample return mission.

If they attempt to do so they don't deserve a next mission.

If these scientists feel free to keep all the data to themselves then the
next mission can be paid for by....them.

The PUBLIC paid for ...this... mission.


Jonathan

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ASSHAT ALERT!!!!!

Alan Figgatt wrote in message ...
Do you mean these cool pictures from April 21:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...20040421a.html

or this press release from April 22:

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...20040422a.html

That Mars, ...Look at that horizon! Will make a terrific mountain
belt once it wears down a bit:-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/to/mtbuild.html



NASA has slowed way down on press conferences and keeping the web site
completely up to date - presumably due to reduce operating costs - but
the images are there. I do think they could do a better job of
summarizing exactly where the rovers are and doing, but so be it. I can
do without another press release where they highlight the stupid song of
the day over the science but the PR office must think it helps.

Alan Figgatt



jonathan wrote:
Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most
interesting the data from Nasa just stops cold. What
are they hiding? It should be clear Nasa wishes to
end this mission with a certain 'spin', the hint of
life, and no more. To maximize the ability to fund a
sample return mission.

If they attempt to do so they don't deserve
a next mission.

If these scientists feel free to keep all the data to themselves
then the next mission can be paid for by....them.

The PUBLIC paid for ...this... mission.


Jonathan

There are 13 from Tuesday on the JPL web site.
34 from Monday.

Wow ! ... and how much did you pay really ?

Those blokes can't hand out data like that to all ! ... one will never know
where it will end up indeed !

And in any case those photos are of no interest !
Why ?
Simply since you don't even know, you and your mates, the most basic facts
about that very Earth !
How on Earth can you understand & interpret was is to be seen on Mars !

A proof ?
You need a proof of that ?
That ' s it ?

Well simple enough ! .
Are you not someone who beuuuulieve in Glaciations and in that Continental
Rafting Dorky thing ?
You do ?

See !

--
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud

~~Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~




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Are we to receive one or two out of focus pics a day
from now on?

Now that the Opportunity mission is becoming the most
interesting the data from Nasa just stops cold. What
are they hiding? It should be clear Nasa wishes to
end this mission with a certain 'spin', the hint of
life, and no more. To maximize the ability to fund a
sample return mission.

If they attempt to do so they don't deserve
a next mission.

If these scientists feel free to keep all the data to themselves
then the next mission can be paid for by....them.

The PUBLIC paid for ...this... mission.


Jonathan

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