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Old March 7th 11, 08:11 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Val Kraut
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Good info! Would be good to cross post stuff like this to rec.models.scale,
unless you one of those who lost interest in that group and left over the
years.


Val Kraut


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Old March 7th 11, 09:03 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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To go with their new and improved reissue of the Aurora 2001 Moon Bus
model, Moebius Models has now issued a new and improved 2001 Pan-Am
Space Clipper model: http://culttvman.com/main/?p=15924
This is supposed to be a lot more accurate to the model used in the
movie than either the old Aurora or Airfix kits.
The model is available in stores now.
The model doesn't have the Pan-Am decals included, but you can get those
and some alternate ones (TWA, USAA, NASA, USAF, and Air Force One) he

https://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop...detail-kit.cfm
Here's a review of their Moon Bus model BTW:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/ki..._moonbus.shtml
(they included alternate windshields that are accurate to the movie one).
You can also get super-detailing parts for it:
http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/...or-moebius.cfm
http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/...duct_ID=17 67
Scott Lowther came across a color photo of the Moon Bus from the movie
showing the interior lit in a blueish light(window filtering?), so you
could really detail the inside of it and illuminate it via a blue LED or
two: http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/u...001glossy1.jpg


Pat



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Old March 7th 11, 10:13 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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In message tatelephone
Pat Flannery wrote:

To go with their new and improved reissue of the Aurora 2001 Moon Bus
model, Moebius Models has now issued a new and improved 2001 Pan-Am
Space Clipper model: http://culttvman.com/main/?p=15924
This is supposed to be a lot more accurate to the model used in the
movie than either the old Aurora or Airfix kits.


In related news...

5 minutes ago I found a "back in stock" email for the Airfix Saturn V
Skylab kit had turned up overnight. I'll wander into the local shop
during the week and see if they've got one in stock.

Anthony

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Old March 7th 11, 01:13 PM posted to sci.space.policy
David Spain
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Pat Flannery wrote:
To go with their new and improved reissue of the Aurora 2001 Moon Bus
model, Moebius Models has now issued a new and improved 2001 Pan-Am
Space Clipper model: http://culttvman.com/main/?p=15924


And the reason we don't have a REAL one of these flying today, is, uh,
ummm, er, remind me?

Dave
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Old March 7th 11, 07:00 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 3/7/2011 12:11 AM, Val Kraut wrote:
Good info! Would be good to cross post stuff like this to rec.models.scale,
unless you one of those who lost interest in that group and left over the
years.


I was in some sort of a modeling newsgroup way back for a while, but it
rapidly turned into a discussion of subtle changes in Tiger tank
suspension details over the WWII years, and how to model them.
B-o-r-i-n-g.

Pat
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Old March 7th 11, 07:05 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 3/7/2011 2:13 AM, Anthony Frost wrote:

5 minutes ago I found a "back in stock" email for the Airfix Saturn V
Skylab kit had turned up overnight. I'll wander into the local shop
during the week and see if they've got one in stock.


Tell us what, if anything, is under that launch shroud.
I've heard both that there's nothing under it and that there is a folded
version of Skylab's front end under it.

Pat
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Old March 7th 11, 07:28 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 3/7/2011 5:13 AM, David Spain wrote:
Pat Flannery wrote:
To go with their new and improved reissue of the Aurora 2001 Moon Bus
model, Moebius Models has now issued a new and improved 2001 Pan-Am
Space Clipper model: http://culttvman.com/main/?p=15924


And the reason we don't have a REAL one of these flying today, is, uh,
ummm, er, remind me?


Because we can't make a rocket engine that uses the small amount of fuel
that can be stored behind the passenger compartment and still put
something into orbit?
The engines themselves are odd; they look like some sort of aerospike
design using the airflow around the fuselage to make the outer wall of
the expansion nozzles but IIRC, the Orion was the upper component of a
reusable two stage system. So by the time it fired up its own engines it
would probably be clear of the majority of the atmosphere, so the engine
would be very inefficient, and tend to push the tail down while firing.
Maybe the spines on the tail are some sort of bootstrapped MHD system
and the ionized exhaust is constrained by some sort of electrical or
magnetic field?
Or maybe it was designed like that because it looked cool?

Pat
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Old March 8th 11, 11:11 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Val Kraut
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" I'll tell you one thing; it would have impressed me a lot more if Cookie
Sewell had remembered that Monogram models had released their 1/32 scale
Panzerjager IV and Brumbar tank models back in the mid 1970's with
Zimmerit anti-magnetic coating molded right onto them, rather than his
claims that the first time that happened by a model company was around the
year 2000 or so.


Hard to forget series - those were the days of the Shep Paine diorama
sheets. But if I remember a recent post on the Atomic Cannon right, he was
in the army at that time - may have actually missed them - there was a
lawsuit that got the color sheets discontinued. Somebody claimed it was
false advertising since their model didn't turn out as good as Shep's. That
and the unfortunate choice of 1/32 versus Tamiya's 1/35 seemed to bring that
set to an early end. I built the M-3s, the Brumbar and Panzer IV are still
somewhere in my stash.


Val Kraut


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Old March 8th 11, 11:34 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 3/7/2011 11:00 AM, Pat Flannery wrote:

I was in some sort of a modeling newsgroup way back for a while, but it
rapidly turned into a discussion of subtle changes in Tiger tank
suspension details over the WWII years, and how to model them.
B-o-r-i-n-g.


I'll tell you one thing; it would have impressed me a lot more if Cookie
Sewell had remembered that Monogram models had released their 1/32 scale
Panzerjager IV and Brumbar tank models back in the mid 1970's with
Zimmerit anti-magnetic coating molded right onto them, rather than his
claims that the first time that happened by a model company was around
the year 2000 or so.

Pat
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Old March 9th 11, 10:55 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Pan-Am space clipper model

On 3/8/2011 3:11 AM, Val Kraut wrote:

Hard to forget series - those were the days of the Shep Paine diorama
sheets. But if I remember a recent post on the Atomic Cannon right, he was
in the army at that time - may have actually missed them - there was a
lawsuit that got the color sheets discontinued. Somebody claimed it was
false advertising since their model didn't turn out as good as Shep's. That
and the unfortunate choice of 1/32 versus Tamiya's 1/35 seemed to bring that
set to an early end. I built the M-3s, the Brumbar and Panzer IV are still
somewhere in my stash.


Yeah, they were okay kits but the 1/32 scale thing was annoying.
They also got really stuck on doing Panzer IV versions so they could use
the same chassis.
A Panther or Tiger would have been nice, as well as a Hetzer.

Pat
 




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