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I put together this list as an intellectual exercise,
ranking the possibilie places in the solar system for the existance of Extraterrestial life. I welcome any non-Guth feedback. ![]() Top Ten Bodies in the Solar System for Extraterrestial Life 1. Earth Okay, so this may seem like a silly choice at first, but it is actually serious. Given Earth's viable ecosystem, it seems likely that if extraterrestial life did exist elsewhere in the solar system in the past, but not now, there's a good chance it could have survived if an impact brought it to Earth. You also have to consider the possibility of intelligent alien contamination over billions of years. As to how you'd determine if the life that survived was actually alien and not native, I don't know, but still, it is something to consider. ![]() life both here and on another body, there's a good chance we'll stumble across it here first. 2. Mars Energy, water, not too cold or too warm, rich geological history, complex chemistry, hydrological cycle, a little atmosphere -- Mars has a alot to offer. A traditional favorite choice for finding extraterrestial life in other parts of the solar system. 3. Europa The recent new favorite, with evidence of subsurface ocean and interesting chemistry on the surface. Energy available via tidal heating, so life below the icy surface is possible. 4. Titan Very cold, yes, but we don't know yet what's going on below those clouds. And with all the complex hydrocarbons floating around and a possible hydrological cycle as well, chances are slim yet still realistic. 5. Io This is the first choice on this list that I expect to be controversial. However, I think Io has a lot of possibilities -- complex chemistry, geological activity, and the surface provides a wide range of termperatures. I see no reason why life couldn't have developed in a hot (but not too hot) volcanically heated area... but Jupiter's radiation is a problem. 6. Jupiter A questionable entry, but why not micro-celled organisms floating in the upper atmosphere? Carl Sagan once speculated on the possibility of more complex life-forms in gas giants, "floaters", "sinkers", and "hunters". 7. Saturn Well, if Jupiter, why not Saturn? Uranus and Neptune are probably too cold and differ too much in their composition, but Saturn is enough like Jupiter to harbor the same possibilities. 8. Triton Cold and distant, but yet we know it's geologically active, with liquid subsurface, and possibly some atmosphere. If life can exist in the oceans of Europa, why not Triton? 9. Venus It's hot. Damn hot. And the pressure is deadly. But microscopic organisms might be able to survive under the surface, or high up in the atmosphere. The chances of life on Venus are slim given what we know today, but I hold out hope. 10. Iapetus This is my second highly controversial choice, but I think a defensible one. Frankly, we don't know what is going on on Iapetus, although there are many theories. We'll need to get a much closer look to figure out what the dark material on the surface is, the nature of recent geological activity, and determine the presence of any liquid water or atmosphere. However, the planet may turn out to be a lot like Europa once we learn more, so I think you can't simply discount it like you can many of the other rocky/icy airless moons. Alternatively, you can suggest Callisto or Ganymede. Bruce |
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In message , Bruce
Sterling Woodcock writes 6. Jupiter A questionable entry, but why not micro-celled organisms floating in the upper atmosphere? Carl Sagan once speculated on the possibility of more complex life-forms in gas giants, "floaters", "sinkers", and "hunters". Doesn't Jupiter have a lot of turnover and down drafts in the atmosphere, which means that living things will get sucked down to levels which are too hot (and too dense ?) to survive. 7. Saturn Well, if Jupiter, why not Saturn? Uranus and Neptune are probably too cold and differ too much in their composition, but Saturn is enough like Jupiter to harbor the same possibilities. Having rubbished Jupiter, I'm going to disagree about Neptune as well :-) It's got an internal heat source, so it could be quite warm at depth. Unfortunately my copy of "The New Solar System" (3rd ed.) doesn't have a pressure-temperature graph for Neptune. Saturn looks inviting though - a nice comfy 300 Kelvin at 300 km below the 100 millibar level. The pressure there is about 10-20 bar. Anyone for SCUBA gear? -- Save the Hubble Space Telescope! Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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![]() "Jonathan Silverlight" wrote in message ... In message , Bruce Sterling Woodcock writes 6. Jupiter A questionable entry, but why not micro-celled organisms floating in the upper atmosphere? Carl Sagan once speculated on the possibility of more complex life-forms in gas giants, "floaters", "sinkers", and "hunters". Doesn't Jupiter have a lot of turnover and down drafts in the atmosphere, which means that living things will get sucked down to levels which are too hot (and too dense ?) to survive. 7. Saturn Well, if Jupiter, why not Saturn? Uranus and Neptune are probably too cold and differ too much in their composition, but Saturn is enough like Jupiter to harbor the same possibilities. Having rubbished Jupiter, I'm going to disagree about Neptune as well :-) It's got an internal heat source, so it could be quite warm at depth. Unfortunately my copy of "The New Solar System" (3rd ed.) doesn't have a pressure-temperature graph for Neptune. Saturn looks inviting though - a nice comfy 300 Kelvin at 300 km below the 100 millibar level. The pressure there is about 10-20 bar. Anyone for SCUBA gear? You're probably right about the inner temperature. My point about the cold was not so much the current state but how it formed... the internal compositions of Uranus and Neptune are though to be much different from Jupiter and Saturn. So the possibility of complex chemistry seems to be reduced. Also, if the primary source of organic compounds are cometary material, Jupiter and Saturn surely gobbled up more than their smaller cousins. And given the higher possibilities of life arising on a Galilean or Saturnian moon, then you have the chance of the parent body being 'seeded' by the minor one. Still, one could argue the same for Triton, so... Personally I think the chance of life in such gas giants is small at any rate, but given how little we actually know about their interiors, well, anything is possible... Bruce |
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