response to sci.space.moderated skeptics

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THAT'S ALL !!!

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https/www.paypal.com

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listed in Position 1 $5.00 PayPal will ask you to select type. (Select
service and put $5.00 donation for subject.) When person in Position 1 receives
notification of your payment, you can simply copy this page and change the
names in position #1 & #2 as instructed. Remember, only the person in Position 1
on the list gets your $5.00 donation. Send them a donation then remove #1
PayPal account from the list. Move the other accounts up & add your Paypal account
to #2 position. After you have retyped the names in the new order,

Use Netscape or Internet Explorer and try searching for various new groups
(on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) Visit message
boards and post this article as a new message by highlighting the text of this
letter and selecting paste from the edit menu. Fill in the subject, this will be
the header that everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a
particular group, click the post message button. You're done.

When your name reaches Position 1 (usually in less than a week) it
will be your turn to receive the cash. $5.00 will be sent
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$5.00 dontation and receive up to $20,000 in less than
two weeks. Because there are only (2) names on the list you can
anticipate 80% of your cash within two weeks.

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MONEY!!

REMEMBER, you add your email to the #2 spot, and then move everyone
else up 1 (deleting the person who was formally in the #1 spot, and who you
should have sent your money to). DO NOT add your email to #1 when you
start this program. If everyone did this, then NO ONE would make a
cent.

THIS PROGRAM WORKS - JUST TRY IT

1) PAYPAL ACCOUNT

2) PAYPAL ACCOUNT

3) PAYPAL ACCOUNT

4) PAYPAL ACCOUNT

5) PAYPAL ACCOUNT

Integrity and honesty make this plan work.
Participants who actively promote this program will average between
$8000 and $12000 and receive the donations within two weeks.

This is not a chain letter. You are simply making a donation of $6.00
to another person. The Program does not violate title
18 section 1302 of the Postal and lottery code.

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part of the donation program and help people help people.

This program is about helping each other!

Success is a journey - Not a destination!

Start Your Journey TODAY!!!!
Post a follow-up to this message everywhere...

In article ,
wrote:

Follow the directions below and in two weeks you'll have up to $20000.00 in
your PayPal account.

How in the world did a pyramic-scheme spam get past the moderators?
(Not picking on them, just genuinely curious.)

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Joe Strout wrote in
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In article ,
wrote:

Follow the directions below and in two weeks you'll have up to
$20000.00 in your PayPal account.

How in the world did a pyramic-scheme spam get past the moderators?
(Not picking on them, just genuinely curious.)

Forging the appropriate moderator approvals in the headers is not easy, but
it is possible, and happens occasionally even on s.s.science and s.s.tech,
which are more tightly moderated than s.s.moderated.


--
JRF

Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail,
check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and
think one step ahead of IBM.

That is a really good question. (Maybe we will see an answer?) :-)

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:55:10 -0700 (PDT), Joe Strout
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

Follow the directions below and in two weeks you'll have up to $20000.00 in
your PayPal account.

How in the world did a pyramic-scheme spam get past the moderators?
(Not picking on them, just genuinely curious.)

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BaRoN wrote:
Joe Strout wrote:
How in the world did a pyramic-scheme spam get past the moderators?
(Not picking on them, just genuinely curious.)
That is a really good question. (Maybe we will see an answer?) :-)

Usenet doesn't have any automated authentication mechanism that checks that
a post was approved by the proper party - it is trivial to add the
appropriate header that approves a post to a moderated group. What stops
most people from approving their own posts is that:

1) They don't know how.
2) If they do know how they know doing so would violate their Terms of
Service (and therefore risk getting their Internet access cut).
3) If they do know how to do it without getting caught, they don't do it
because they know there are thousands of unmoderated groups where they are
free to post whatever they like.

Jim Logajan wrote:
BaRoN wrote:
Joe Strout wrote:
How in the world did a pyramic-scheme spam get past the moderators?

(Not picking on them, just genuinely curious.)
That is a really good question. (Maybe we will see an answer?) :-)

Usenet doesn't have any automated authentication mechanism that
checks that
a post was approved by the proper party - it is trivial to add the
appropriate header that approves a post to a moderated group. What
stops
most people from approving their own posts is that:

1) They don't know how.
2) If they do know how they know doing so would violate their Terms
of
Service (and therefore risk getting their Internet access cut).
3) If they do know how to do it without getting caught, they don't do
it
because they know there are thousands of unmoderated groups where
they are
free to post whatever they like.

So why haven't the moderators snipped this out? I've seen posts on
moderated fora snipped, leaving only the message, "Thread removed.
Forged Moderator Aproval." Is there only the automated aproval, or is
there a real, flesh-and-blood person here somewhere?

....

Hello?

steppenvalve wrote:


Hello?

Hello? Moderators? Snip the first item in this thread. Even if it takes
out all the responses. This has been here over a month.

On 28 Jul 2004 "steppenvalve" wrote in
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So why haven't the moderators snipped this out? I've seen posts on
moderated fora snipped, leaving only the message, "Thread removed.
Forged Moderator Aproval." Is there only the automated aproval, or
is there a real, flesh-and-blood person here somewhere?

Are you talking abou web based boards? If so then they might have the
ability to do that. In Usenet we can't. Once a message is out there it
stays out there. We do cancel posts with a forged approval but few sites
honour cancels nowadays. We could block any followups to it reaching the
goup but what's the point? They may be on-topic and relevent.

As for real people.......
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Graham Drabble
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