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"Bill Meyers" wrote in message
... Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers Why would you want to? This sounds like manipulation. Not really a loving act. cheers, Larry G. |
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Hello, all,
I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers |
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Yes, of course, the beauty of the night sky has nothing to offer a
person, so trying to interest someone in it is a manipulation rather than an attempt to give the person something of transcendent value. I get it now. Thanks for pointing this out to all of us... Clear skies, Bill Meyers LarryG wrote: "Bill Meyers" wrote in message ... Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers Why would you want to? This sounds like manipulation. Not really a loving act. cheers, Larry G. |
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Not good, Bill. You just can't take a non-abstract type person
(real-world type...bingo, parties, dancing, computers, TV, movies, etc) and convert them to a very abstract hobby, which observational astronomy is...in fact, if you force it, it generally turns them off. (Just like children under the age of 8 or 9, who are still in the 'concrete' phase of life...touch, taste, smell, feel, etc...) You can turn them off real quick, if you try to force them into the abstract world too soon. That's why I always advise parents of very young children, get 'em a book on astronomy... they can touch, taste, smell, feel...the book....something concrete. FWIW, IMHO, TW Bill Meyers wrote: Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers |
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One of our first dates was Larch Mountain (east of Portland, OR) with an
orange tube C-8. Believe it or not, the date with the scope was her idea. M57 is still her favorite. She only comes out occasionally now, but I would recommend the moon and planets to start with. Beyond that I would stick with the brighter objects. Faint fuzzies is an acquired taste and most don't acquire it. But they still appreciate the detail seen in a cruise down the terminator. (handing her the drive controller helps) Clear Skies! Chuck Taylor Do you observe the moon? Try the Lunar Observing Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/ "Bill Meyers" wrote in message ... Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers |
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![]() Bill Meyers wrote: Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers Show them the monthly gallery in the back of S&T. Rick S. |
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![]() Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers If it is not too cold, too windy or some such thing, my wife enjoys looking at the stars with me for a while. But it is not a passion with her so spending hours under the night sky when it cold and windy (it gets cold in the mountains here and when we travel to Monument Valley in January it is often in the teens) is simply out of the question. We each have our own passions so we try to share them and make them work together. Fortunately she does like to travel and likes to spend nights in the mountains so we often take the motor home up somewhere dark. I look at the stars for most of the night, she will look for a while. Then she goes inside and plays her Flutes, this is her passion. (See her website www.shakuhachi.org) I enjoy viewing the night sky while hearing her flute sound faintly flowing over the mountain. I think having a spouse that shares a specific passion is unlikely unless that shared passion was something that brought you together. Otherwise, being able to appreciate and enjoy the passion of your partner seems like a reasonable situation/hope/expectation/goal, something that can definitely enhance the relationship. ---- Beside, consider this: 1. Who needs a spouse who can effective argue the virtues of GOTO vs. Starhopping. Just one more thing to get into a family huff about. 2. Your astro budget will have to double or your supply of new toys will suffer. 3. Telescopes generally come in two colors, Black and White, with a few green ones thrown in. These are colors male colors, nothing to sophisticated, gets the job done and looks OK. Now my wife happens to like Purple, imagine being at a star party where your eyepieces, mount and telescope all need to be color coordinated. "Sorry, I can't take that Nagler that Uncle Rod wants to give away, the green clashes with my purple telescope." "But nobody will know, its night time, dark, no one can see." "But I will know and thats what counts." G ------------ Back to reality. I am glad my wife encourages me to pursue my passion for astronomy and that she can enjoy it in small doses. I don't think one could ask for any more. Love you Francis/Mary Lu jon |
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![]() "Bill Meyers" wrote in message ... Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers Better try the neighbors wife first.... |
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Jon, thanks for a thoughtful and poetic answer.
I did look at your wife's web site , which is fascinating and profound. I had no idea before about bamboo flute playing and the tradition and philosophy behind it. I don't think an interest can be implanted in someone; the inner spark has to be there, but if it is there, .it is a question of letting it flourish by fanning the spark with a brief gentle breeze. The work of John Dobson and the Sidewalk astronomers impresses me, the effort to briefly fan the spark of interest if it is there already. Public star parties, presentations at schools and Scout meetings and community groups- my small town had a star gaze recently -- are in the same tradition. Sometimes a look at Saturn or M13 fans the spark of a lifelong interest. Participation, rather than passive reception, seems to help a lot. I find that people like to do things themselves, which helps them make the activity their own. Museums that have hands-on exhibits take account of this need. If a friend family member seems to be developing a real interest in and curiosity about astronomy,, and I have several telescopes of my own (as many of us do), I would seriously consider giving that person one of my scopes. Then the person can pursue the person's own interests independent of me. FOTO, our local astronomy club, has several loaner telescopes for this reason. This is just my own thinking on the subject. Bill Meyers Jon Isaacs wrote: Hello, all, I am wondering what people's experience with this has been. Bill Meyers If it is not too cold, too windy or some such thing, my wife enjoys looking at the stars with me for a while. But it is not a passion with her so spending hours under the night sky when it cold and windy (it gets cold in the mountains here and when we travel to Monument Valley in January it is often in the teens) is simply out of the question. We each have our own passions so we try to share them and make them work together. Fortunately she does like to travel and likes to spend nights in the mountains so we often take the motor home up somewhere dark. I look at the stars for most of the night, she will look for a while. Then she goes inside and plays her Flutes, this is her passion. (See her website www.shakuhachi.org) I enjoy viewing the night sky while hearing her flute sound faintly flowing over the mountain. I think having a spouse that shares a specific passion is unlikely unless that shared passion was something that brought you together. Otherwise, being able to appreciate and enjoy the passion of your partner seems like a reasonable situation/hope/expectation/goal, something that can definitely enhance the relationship. ---- Beside, consider this: 1. Who needs a spouse who can effective argue the virtues of GOTO vs. Starhopping. Just one more thing to get into a family huff about. 2. Your astro budget will have to double or your supply of new toys will suffer. 3. Telescopes generally come in two colors, Black and White, with a few green ones thrown in. These are colors male colors, nothing to sophisticated, gets the job done and looks OK. Now my wife happens to like Purple, imagine being at a star party where your eyepieces, mount and telescope all need to be color coordinated. "Sorry, I can't take that Nagler that Uncle Rod wants to give away, the green clashes with my purple telescope." "But nobody will know, its night time, dark, no one can see." "But I will know and thats what counts." G ------------ Back to reality. I am glad my wife encourages me to pursue my passion for astronomy and that she can enjoy it in small doses. I don't think one could ask for any more. Love you Francis/Mary Lu jon |
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Jon,
Live flute music and stars. . .you are a lucky man. My compliments to your wife on her talent and her website. My compliments to you on your selection for a mate. Regards, Martin |
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