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Old August 25th 09, 09:37 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
M.M.M.
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On Aug 25, 11:32*am, gudi wrote:
On Aug 25, 3:00*am, JEMebius wrote:



Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ? (x,y,z) =
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat near the
origin. *I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree terms, therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).

Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/

Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/

this is edge of the same image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/

Musatov



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Old August 25th 09, 11:19 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
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However, as would be a possibility to circulate along that matter, for
instance, when the E would be along the G(E)...

Therefore, then the E, would be an inverse as a continued matter, when
especially would be along an application, which is x -- x coef. -1, all
along...

However, that a definitely would be continued along the G(E), as it would be
a possible to get the E when G(E) would be an open matter along the E,
simply as that, a definitely as a matter a fact...

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"M.M.M." kirjoitti
...
On Aug 25, 11:32 am, gudi wrote:
On Aug 25, 3:00 am, JEMebius wrote:



Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ? (x,y,z)
=
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat
near the
origin. I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a
cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal
manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree terms,
therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please
seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More
inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).

Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/

Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/

this is edge of the same image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/

Musatov




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Old August 26th 09, 01:37 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
xxein
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On Aug 25, 4:37*pm, "M.M.M." wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:32*am, gudi wrote:





On Aug 25, 3:00*am, JEMebius wrote:


Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ? (x,y,z) =
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat near the
origin. *I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree terms, therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).


Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/

Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/

this is edge of the same image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/

Musatov- Hide quoted text -

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xxein: I'm not here to view comic books.
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Old August 26th 09, 02:32 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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"Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" wrote:
[snip]

pseudosphere

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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Old August 26th 09, 03:18 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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M.M.M. wrote:
xxein wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:37*pm, "M.M.M." wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:32*am, gudi wrote:





On Aug 25, 3:00*am, JEMebius wrote:


Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ? (x,y,z) =
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat near the
origin. *I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree terms, therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).


Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/

Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/

this is edge of the same image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/

Musatov- Hide quoted text -

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xxein: I'm not here to view comic books.

How unfortunate for you to dismiss truth because of your own
prejudices.
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Old August 26th 09, 06:27 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Androcles[_19_]
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"xxein" wrote in message
...
On Aug 25, 4:37 pm, "M.M.M." wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:32 am, gudi wrote:





On Aug 25, 3:00 am, JEMebius wrote:


Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ?
(x,y,z) =
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with
larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat
near the
origin. I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a
cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal
manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree
terms, therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please
seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More
inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).


Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/

Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/

this is edge of the same image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/

Musatov- Hide quoted text -

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xxein: I'm not here to view comic books.
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You are here to view an artefactual/superficially imposed yin-yang of sorts.





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Old August 26th 09, 10:32 AM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
tadchem[_1_]
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On Aug 25, 10:18*pm, M-Theory wrote:
M.M.M. wrote:
xxein wrote:
On Aug 25, 4:37*pm, "M.M.M." wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:32*am, gudi wrote:


On Aug 25, 3:00*am, JEMebius wrote:


Robert Israel wrote:
gudi writes:


Can anyone please suggest a parametrization of the surface ? (x,y,z) =
f( u,v ),
for Gauss curvature = -1 . The edge may be cuspidal line, with larger
rotations
from center.


http://i25.tinypic.com/65q042.jpg


It looks to me like the surface in the picture is pretty much flat near the
origin. *I don't see how it could have Gaussian curvature -1 there.


I guess the picture shows part of the surface that is generated by a cubic parabola z =
A.x^3 rotating around the Z axis, meanwhile changing A in a sinusoidal manner in three
periods per revolution.


In cylinder coordinates (r, phi, z):


z = Amax . sin(3.phi) . r^3


The corresponding Taylor series in x and y starts with 3rd-degree terms, therefore the
curvature at the origin is indeed zero.


For constant negative curvature please seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudosphere.
More inhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractrixandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....


Happy studies: Johan E. Mebius


Thanks.Please see my reply to Robert Israel also.(May be you mean z =
Amax sin(6 phi) r^3).


Narasimham


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569707781/


Here is an LCD display attempting to render the image:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869933@N07/3569733893/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...th/3619373444/


this is edge of the same image


http://www.flickr.com/photos/2486993...n/photostream/


Musatov- Hide quoted text -


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xxein: *I'm not here to view comic books.


How unfortunate for you to dismiss truth because of your own
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What "truth"?

I see nothing but a very rough draft of a drawing.

Your draftsmanship needs a lot of work.

Try CAD software.

Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA


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Old August 26th 09, 01:16 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
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Unfortunately or a fortunately, it is a simply an algebra matter...

However, when the E would be along a locality as a definitely a convex
multiplicand...

Therefore, it would be an under the Pi which would be an under multiplicand
as Pi (xy)_ Pi(x) Pi(y) ( x, y eps. E ), simply as that...

Whether, I do mention a simply or a simple, does not means anything is a
simple along that matter, a definitely as a matter a fact...

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"Uncle Al" kirjoitti
...
"Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" wrote:
[snip]

pseudosphere

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2



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Old August 26th 09, 02:09 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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Uncle Al wrote:
"Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" wrote:
[snip]

pseudosphere

Or looking from the inside out?

/BAH
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Old August 26th 09, 03:01 PM posted to sci.math,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
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However, mister /BAH, or a just to swim, first of all, along the following
equation, all along...

y² - x² = z
--- --- ---
b² a² c²

a, b 0, c =/= 0

Therefore, as otherwise, to follow the space more, when a definitely the E
would be along a K as along its own stricturation which it would be
(x,y) -- xy of the E x E along the E....

Whatsoever, along that matter would be found the E along the following
metamorphosis as it would be a definitely the

E , as which E would be deduced along the E...
1 1

However, along an infinite space, which would produce what would follows...

(alpha, a).(beta, b) = (alpha beta, alpha b + beta a + ab )

Therefore, as would be deduced from the E along an adjunctive matter of an
unity, as along an operation of the

E -- E , as a simply as that, a definitely as a matter a fact...
1


--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"jmfbahciv" jmfbahciv@aol kirjoitti
...
Uncle Al wrote:
"Ahmed Ouahi, Architect" wrote:
[snip]

pseudosphere

Or looking from the inside out?

/BAH



 




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