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Old July 26th 09, 11:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro
ukastronomy[_2_]
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Default Open Cluster Group proof


The fact is, despite whatever disgusting allegations and assertions
made by Martin Piers Nicholson about other people he has never yet
described or explained why he used multiple separate identities like
Hannah Varley, Ian Hill Smith, Eric Whiting, Johnhampton14, Carl
Scottish and others to complain about USNO and the WDS in Washington
on yahoo and at times on Google groups and when shown that he was
posting as some of these people in some of his own yahoo groups, such
as a narrow band filtering one, he deleted the evidence.

You can still find today a message from Hannah Varley sent to declare
a new open cluster group on yahoo with the same modem identity as the
posts from the group owner Nicholson, via these links, though you will
have to be quick because when actual evidence is used Martin tends to
run around deleting the groups he created himself. Can't have ugly
little facts spoiling things.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...n&dmode=source

allegedly from HannahVfromDublin and which can be seen to be from IP
81.155.55.239 (which is in the UK NOT in Eire) and

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/o...ce=1&var=1&l=1

which can also be seen to be from IP 81.155.55.239, and both are yahoo
web accounts, usable from anywhere, so he had no need to forward "her"
notice of his

If he deletes it just join Binary Stars Uncensored yahoo group, a
group he hates and knocks regularly as it contains in its archives
full details of him using up to half a dozen made up people who all
complained that Martin Nicholson's tens of thousands of double stars
weren't being published by USNO in the WDS. He then went on to knock
usno, on sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur and elsewhere, at times
having Ian Hill Smith agree with his views in these groups, from the
same IP he used to complain..

If he wants to talk about mental health let him explain why he felt
the need to send a hand written letter to a private address warning
Greaves not to publish any southern common proper motion pairs from
UCAC2 after Nicholson discovered that a formal professional journal
scientific paper had been published on northern ones by Greaves.

He soon afterwards emails the editors of MNRAS to complain Greaves'
paper was all wrong, but had to retract his complaint when it turned
out he got it all wrong because despite being a self confessed double
star expert he didn't understand the catalogue data.

Kelleher, Valev, Lulin, whomever, may be considered cranks, may be
considered kooky, but at least they are honest. They do not run
around accusing everyone of being mad when facts are shown against
them, they just ignore it and make up even more rubbish.

Nicholson personally attacks the character of everyone who displays
the truth about him in the hope that what they are saying will be
dismissed.

Well, it is a fact that USNO staff, Arne Henden of AAVSO, Mike
Simonsen of AAVSO, Roger Pickard of BAA and many others have seen the
evidence of Nicholson attacking people in groups using different full
identities... ...not different nicknames nor different email
addresses, but full identities pretending to be several different
people, often agreeing with himself and conversing with himself. They
were presented with this evidence a long while ago and admitted it was
real and accepted it was valid.

Christopher Watons of yahoo group VSX Discussion about the AAVSO's VSX
service even went as far as to delete all posts in that group's
archive from Hannah Varley once it was demonstrated that "her" emails
to that group were coming from Nicholson.

Variable star amateur groups are **** scared of Nicholson and his ways
of damning and attacking through blogs and usenet, but double star and
deepsky section groups have never cared for or accepted his tens of
thousands of "new" double stars or new deepsky objects.

If you want to decide on someone's state of mental health always read
this press release, written by, disseminated by and about Martin
Nicholson

http://stupendous.rit.edu/tass/maila.../msg00147.html

Nicholson, the original anti-astronomer.
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Old July 26th 09, 12:18 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro
Martin Nicholson (NMR)
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Default Greaves and his synthetic anger

Not content with identity theft or being moderated into sullen silence
by VSNET-alert John Greaves now chooses to further demonstrate his
problems. (As a point of interest only just recently Greaves was
whining about how many groups have banned him!)

1) The most brief of searches would prove the existence of the
Daventry Observatory.
www.britastro.org/jbaa/pdf/113-4dss.pdf

2) Submitting comet positions to MPC followed by publication by them
IS peer reviewed publication - Greaves might claim something different
but the facts are not in dispute.

Of course all these "mistake" are typical of Greaves and his synthetic
anger. In February 2008 Greaves posted the following to the AAVSO-DIS
list.

The Perils of Periodicity Papers http://mira.aavso.org/pipermail/a......ry/014006.html

This is his subsequent apology and retraction. "Iterate:- there's no
objectively based reason why ejaavso 72 should need to be pulled or
apologised for. Aspects about the nature of RU Vul from my first
email on the topic were incorrect. The remaining differences are
insufficient to require any retraction in any form from the authors
with respect to their paper."

Read more at
http://mira.aavso.org/pipermail/a......ry/014023.html



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Old July 26th 09, 03:06 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro
Bill Shutterbug
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Default Open Cluster Group proof

The biggest mistake you folks keep making is dragging out your frustrations
in a public forum. You not only help to incriminate yourselves, but lose
respect for both you and your arguments. This debate should have been
carried out either in private emails, the telephone or even in person and
not here.

"ukastronomy" wrote in message
...

The fact is, despite whatever disgusting allegations and assertions
made by Martin Piers Nicholson about other people he has never yet
described or explained why he used multiple separate identities like
Hannah Varley, Ian Hill Smith, Eric Whiting, Johnhampton14, Carl
Scottish and others to complain about USNO and the WDS in Washington
on yahoo and at times on Google groups and when shown that he was
posting as some of these people in some of his own yahoo groups, such
as a narrow band filtering one, he deleted the evidence.

You can still find today a message from Hannah Varley sent to declare
a new open cluster group on yahoo with the same modem identity as the
posts from the group owner Nicholson, via these links, though you will
have to be quick because when actual evidence is used Martin tends to
run around deleting the groups he created himself. Can't have ugly
little facts spoiling things.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...n&dmode=source

allegedly from HannahVfromDublin and which can be seen to be from IP
81.155.55.239 (which is in the UK NOT in Eire) and

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/o...ce=1&var=1&l=1

which can also be seen to be from IP 81.155.55.239, and both are yahoo
web accounts, usable from anywhere, so he had no need to forward "her"
notice of his

If he deletes it just join Binary Stars Uncensored yahoo group, a
group he hates and knocks regularly as it contains in its archives
full details of him using up to half a dozen made up people who all
complained that Martin Nicholson's tens of thousands of double stars
weren't being published by USNO in the WDS. He then went on to knock
usno, on sci.astro and sci.astro.amateur and elsewhere, at times
having Ian Hill Smith agree with his views in these groups, from the
same IP he used to complain..

If he wants to talk about mental health let him explain why he felt
the need to send a hand written letter to a private address warning
Greaves not to publish any southern common proper motion pairs from
UCAC2 after Nicholson discovered that a formal professional journal
scientific paper had been published on northern ones by Greaves.

He soon afterwards emails the editors of MNRAS to complain Greaves'
paper was all wrong, but had to retract his complaint when it turned
out he got it all wrong because despite being a self confessed double
star expert he didn't understand the catalogue data.

Kelleher, Valev, Lulin, whomever, may be considered cranks, may be
considered kooky, but at least they are honest. They do not run
around accusing everyone of being mad when facts are shown against
them, they just ignore it and make up even more rubbish.

Nicholson personally attacks the character of everyone who displays
the truth about him in the hope that what they are saying will be
dismissed.

Well, it is a fact that USNO staff, Arne Henden of AAVSO, Mike
Simonsen of AAVSO, Roger Pickard of BAA and many others have seen the
evidence of Nicholson attacking people in groups using different full
identities... ...not different nicknames nor different email
addresses, but full identities pretending to be several different
people, often agreeing with himself and conversing with himself. They
were presented with this evidence a long while ago and admitted it was
real and accepted it was valid.

Christopher Watons of yahoo group VSX Discussion about the AAVSO's VSX
service even went as far as to delete all posts in that group's
archive from Hannah Varley once it was demonstrated that "her" emails
to that group were coming from Nicholson.

Variable star amateur groups are **** scared of Nicholson and his ways
of damning and attacking through blogs and usenet, but double star and
deepsky section groups have never cared for or accepted his tens of
thousands of "new" double stars or new deepsky objects.

If you want to decide on someone's state of mental health always read
this press release, written by, disseminated by and about Martin
Nicholson

http://stupendous.rit.edu/tass/maila.../msg00147.html

Nicholson, the original anti-astronomer.


 




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